Fight- Raiden vs. Superman

@MKF30: 
Are you being sued? Even on youtube you are considered a troll.
 
http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=n7t2zRomSMY

@MKF30: I still don't believe you.

 And I see you didn't get my Cage ending point, as it's the same difference as the Sub one....but I see you need to "see every little thing" in order for it to be true...if only you felt that way about politics haha...anywho...moving on. In MKDC Sub-Zero defeated Batman rather easily, yet impressed Raiden and Raiden merely toyed with Batman, his mission wasn't to kill him but to rescue Liu Kang....even DC writers have to know Bats stands no chance against those two..much like most MK characters have no chance against Superman...at full power. 
 
But hey, Lex Luthor a human has dealt and hurt Superman with green K...Batman has...and they're both mere mortals, so why couldn't a magic user from MK? Afterall, Magic is what MK is all about...but let's be real here, in a normal non-pis or nerfed situation, I get Superman would beat Sub-Zero, much like Raiden would beat Batman....there's no denying either.
 
 
Raiden never got pummeled by Sonya...he jobbered on purpose because he didn't want to fight her....he actually helped her escape with Jax....(let's just ignore that though)  If he wanted to he could have just used his lightning to hurt Sonya, but he didn't....    or as you say "nerfed" here 
 
  

 And I see you didn't get my Cage ending point, as it's the same difference as the Sub one....but I see you need to "see every little thing" in order for it to be true...if only you felt that way about politics haha...anywho...moving on. In MKDC Sub-Zero defeated Batman rather easily, yet impressed Raiden and Raiden merely toyed with Batman, his mission wasn't to kill him but to rescue Liu Kang....even DC writers have to know Bats stands no chance against those two..much like most MK characters have no chance against Superman...at full power.  But hey, Lex Luthor a human has dealt and hurt Superman with green K...Batman has...and they're both mere mortals, so why couldn't a magic user from MK? Afterall, Magic is what MK is all about...but let's be real here, in a normal non-pis or nerfed situation, I get Superman would beat Sub-Zero, much like Raiden would beat Batman....there's no denying either.  Raiden never got pummeled by Sonya...he jobbered on purpose because he didn't want to fight her....he actually helped her escape with Jax....(let's just ignore that though)  If he wanted to he could have just used his lightning to hurt Sonya, but he didn't....     And could have blinded her too but warned her to close her eyes....would he do that if he wanted to actually defeat her? Doubtful...  In terms of actors, well that's a different story if he wasn't Highlander, MK has always proven goodwith on film versions for the most part except for the second movie...but even Jame's Remar's version was alright, and Jeff Meek from MKC was good. And the guy from Battlestar in MKL did him well too...the actor in Thor I thought was ok, but like the comicbook counterpart, a roided, blondy with a cape and a hammer...so I expected as much.  On this site, I wouldn't be so sure if Raiden would win that....there's a lot of marvel fans on here much less comic book lovers far more then video game fans I've noticed.  Designs=matter of opinion, the concept of the Elder Gods are cool as hell and ninjas with powers is far cooler then over powered mutants as far as I'm concerned...to each his own I guess. But you should know that MK's characters and vibe is known for it's dark, cool designs unlike that of their rivals like SF, Tekken etc which look dull, generic and scream "anime" from miles away...MK is darker, serious tone no doubt. But anyway.. I'm well aware of what generic means, because the actor who played Thor isn't generic? But I can tell you why they chose a random white guy, because of something called budget maybe? At the time they were Midway, and it's not secret they were struggling for years financially only banking on MK for bringing money in...at that point. Now, Midway is dead in 09 as they got bought over MK rights by WB...a far more richer company....just look at the games now compared to when that game was made, I rest my case.  

Only if you're still going by Batman being able to Beat Raiden "due to a an insulated suit" get real, that wouldn't stop Raiden if he's serious...Quan-Chi's sorcery wall sure as hell didn't...Batman's suit sure as hell won't lol 
 
Actually, I'm a believer of logical facts, not PIS.... 
 
I'm not even going to touch the whole economy gig, the reality and facts speak for itself. That is all I will say ;) 
 
Hypocrisy? err no...I'm a realist, but hey if the world is fine and dandy where you are. I'm sure some small group agrees with that. 
 
Uhh, Jimmy Palmioti  was involved in the story for MKvs.DCU as was John Vogel(from MK team) both writers last time I checked. And DC was also keeping an eye on things, if they did something that they disagreed with, they said it....or didn't allow it. Batman being beat by Sub, is very realistic...and evident. 
 
Yes, just like Joker gaining Mxy's powers and doing whatever he wanted with the universe?  
 
You see this is how I know you don't follow MK, no offense because I'm not even a HUGE comic book guy but casual and even I know DC was involved in MKDC...I can't believe you actually think Batman stands a chance against Sub and Raiden...really? If Bats struggled with Sub, what can he do against Raiden? lol Oh wait...I forgot, with prep Batman can do anything...I guess he can beat Galactus too then huh?  
 
And yes budget is a factual reason why Midway couldn't do more...but hey believe what you want, I already know this as an MK fan and I know inside people who spoken with the MK team themselves...so lol. And who said Raiden had to look Asian? That's random...In some games he's older looking...others youngers, point is he's a god he can take ANY mortal shape or form/race, who cares? 
  
And he never got knocked around by Sonya...in case you missed it, Raiden didn't want to make it obvious in front of shang tsung that he was aiding them....kind of obvious really. 
 
Again, you think Raiden really can't handle Sonya? lol...wow 
 
Yet you call me a hypocrite, you're claiming "magic doesn't effect Superman to that degree whatever...." yet Batman can take out Sub and Raiden by himself? r i g h t ..... Yes, I'm so sure Raiden needs a wall or bridge to take out Batman....how about grabbing him, flying up to space where Batman will pass out or simply teleporting him into a volcano...
 
Hey, at least I admitted Sub has no chance against Superman normally...but I also know neither does Bats against Raiden.

Only if you're still going by Batman being able to Beat Raiden "due to a an insulated suit" get real, that wouldn't stop Raiden if he's serious...Quan-Chi's sorcery wall sure as hell didn't...Batman's suit sure as hell won't lol  Actually, I'm a believer of logical facts, not PIS....  I'm not even going to touch the whole economy gig, the reality and facts speak for itself. That is all I will say ;)  Hypocrisy? err no...I'm a realist, but hey if the world is fine and dandy where you are. I'm sure some small group agrees with that.  Uhh, Jimmy Palmioti  was involved in the story for MKvs.DCU as was John Vogel(from MK team) both writers last time I checked. And DC was also keeping an eye on things, if they did something that they disagreed with, they said it....or didn't allow it. Batman being beat by Sub, is very realistic...and evident.  Yes, just like Joker gaining Mxy's powers and doing whatever he wanted with the universe?   You see this is how I know you don't follow MK, no offense because I'm not even a HUGE comic book guy but casual and even I know DC was involved in MKDC...I can't believe you actually think Batman stands a chance against Sub and Raiden...really? If Bats struggled with Sub, what can he do against Raiden? lol Oh wait...I forgot, with prep Batman can do anything...I guess he can beat Galactus too then huh?   And yes budget is a factual reason why Midway couldn't do more...but hey believe what you want, I already know this as an MK fan and I know inside people who spoken with the MK team themselves...so lol. And who said Raiden had to look Asian? That's random...In some games he's older looking...others youngers, point is he's a god he can take ANY mortal shape or form/race, who cares?   And he never got knocked around by Sonya...in case you missed it, Raiden didn't want to make it obvious in front of shang tsung that he was aiding them....kind of obvious really.  Again, you think Raiden really can't handle Sonya? lol...wow  Yet you call me a hypocrite, you're claiming "magic doesn't effect Superman to that degree whatever...." yet Batman can take out Sub and Raiden by himself? r i g h t ..... Yes, I'm so sure Raiden needs a wall or bridge to take out Batman....how about grabbing him, flying up to space where Batman will pass out or simply teleporting him into a volcano... Hey, at least I admitted Sub has no chance against Superman normally...but I also know neither does Bats against Raiden.

BTW, at the dude saying Thor and Raiden, both are the same concept but actually if anything Raiden is based on a more realistic God of Thunder of Japanese mythology, and not some made up, alternate planet or universe where Thor comes from...and is nothing without his toy hammer that his daddy made for him. 

What would a serious Raiden do? Kill Batman...that's what lol 
 
No, what you call logic is not logic...you're being a hypocrite now... saying "oh well magic can't effect Superman at all" but yet will try to say Batman can't be hurt by Raiden? You're amusing man... 
 
I think you enjoy arguing with me since I don't waste my time anymore in the political threads...otherwise why argue with an MK topic? lol Just funny... 
 
I said I felt it was ridiculous to want to re-do the constitution in Obama's image or anyone else for that matter...yes and that moutain of debt is getting worse thanks to Obama...in case you haven't noticed.  
 
Right..a mistake. 
 
No mythology exists..lol it's all fiction but entertaining. No, I said Raiden could do so to beat Bats...he has tons of options...what's bats going to do, oh year toss a batarang at Raiden....that would work lmao

@whydoievenbother said:

why does anyone even bother talking to mkf30? hes clearly a troll that has no idea what hes talking about. mortal kombat martial artist are mediore by comic standards. and the idea that raiden would be more then a mere nuisance to superman is retarded as well. mkf30 is clearly butthurt so he decided to make several matches like video game superman vs raiden or some bullcrap like that just ignore this troll and let him go back under his bridge.

Instead of throwing out insults, you can ignore what he's saying if you don't like it.

@MKF30 said:

Don't know who you are but you're flagged for baiting and trolling.... Wow, what's with the MK topics breeding trolls that come out of no where that don't know what they're speaking of? Good lord... You're a troll, go away please...you know nothing of what you speak of.

Antagonizing him back wasn't necessary, either.

What would a serious Raiden do? Kill Batman...that's what lol  No, what you call logic is not logic...you're being a hypocrite now... saying "oh well magic can't effect Superman at all" but yet will try to say Batman can't be hurt by Raiden? You're amusing man...  I think you enjoy arguing with me since I don't waste my time anymore in the political threads...otherwise why argue with an MK topic? lol Just funny...  I said I felt it was ridiculous to want to re-do the constitution in Obama's image or anyone else for that matter...yes and that moutain of debt is getting worse thanks to Obama...in case you haven't noticed.   Right..a mistake.  No mythology exists..lol it's all fiction but entertaining. No, I said Raiden could do so to beat Bats...he has tons of options...what's bats going to do, oh year toss a batarang at Raiden....that would work lmao

 I can agree with that depending on the version dboy ^, in some cases Superman will win here..in others Raiden. The animated Superman for example was very weak compared to other versions and the two versions of Raiden are vastly different.
 
 
 
@Isaac, I don't know perhaps the same reason you feel you're serious in your arguments. You seem quite stern with them... 
So you never said Batman would have no trouble with Raiden because of his insulated suit? hmmm 
You brought up the whole constitution thing before I did... 
You're right, I have a full brain :) but like you, nobody's perfect. 
I'm saying mythologies are just that...of course if you think "they're actually real" feel free to post proof.  
I never said they would give EG Raiden a glass jaw, since they don't have one...but believe what you wish, until I see proof of an Elder God in physical form, not buying it. 
  
 
Nick, you fail now since you're just throwing insults...and clearly you didn't play MKDC that's where....but of course you don't know anything about MK and just spit out random nonsense...as usual. I know it's non-canon, I'm SAYING that's the only example though of seeing Batman vs. Sub-Zero since you think you know everything and claim Batman would own him, yet that one example says differently...and you can't deny that....Well, Sub-Zero has also held his own and defeated characters more powerful then Raiden, so your point? I know a lot more then you think being a DC fan, you're just a fake MK fan...so shut it. And some people do agree with me on my initial point but you didn't even bother to read it, ask me if I give a damn..

@nick_hero22

@MKF30: 
 
1. MK vs DC is non canon so stop using it in MK vs threads, if can't come up with a descent case backed up with evidence then don't reply. And it still doesn't change fact Batman beat Sub-Zero, Scorpion, Raiden, and Liu Kang.
2. Who has Sub-Zero fought that is more powerful than Raiden? Because wasn't he the same guy that had to runaway from least 12 tarkatans even when he had upgrades.
3. I know nothing of Mortal Kombat? lol You are the same guy that didn't know that Shao Kahn uses portal orbs to merge realms, that Shujinko defeated Scorpion, and that Scorpion's ending was non canon. Give me a break anyone reading your post knows that your clueless. 
4. Fake Fan? No I'm a dumb fan. 
 
GTFO

It wasn't a question, you came at me with an attitude...so stop trying to play innocent. If you had a question, you could have imed me...kind of the point of the PM system.

@Isaac, I don't know perhaps the same reason you feel you're serious in your arguments. You seem quite stern with them... So you never said Batman would have no trouble with Raiden because of his insulated suit? hmmm You brought up the whole constitution thing before I did... You're right, I have a full brain :) but like you, nobody's perfect. I'm saying mythologies are just that...of course if you think "they're actually real" feel free to post proof.  I never said they would give EG Raiden a glass jaw, since they don't have one...but believe what you wish, until I see proof of an Elder God in physical form, not buying it.

  

   You actualy claimed to be a high-level MK 9 player in another thread?  Flame has been planted,exiting thread in 3....2.....1....

Superman wins here.

I think Superman would punch a hole through Raiden

@SpidermanWins: The instance of Superman wiping out those Doomsday clones has a circumstance to it. They were engineered by Darkseid, yet, they were imperfect clones. Thus, they weren't as powerful other versions of Doomsday (original, Hunter/Prey, Rex), possibly several times weaker. Batman was able to take a group of them down with exploding batarangs, and the Amazonians were able to cut through them easily.

@TERMINATOR_FAN: He's been hurt by lightning before.

DC vs Mortal Kombat is not canon nor is any crossover. Superman is way above Raiden's level in terms of feats. Raiden is powerful and an Elder God

@SpidermanWins: The instance of Superman wiping out those Doomsday clones has a circumstance to it. They were engineered by Darkseid, yet, they were imperfect clones. Thus, they weren't as powerful other versions of Doomsday (original, Hunter/Prey, Rex), possibly several times weaker. Batman was able to take a group of them down with exploding batarangs, and the Amazonians were able to cut through them easily.

@SpidermanWins said:

DC vs Mortal Kombat is not canon nor is any crossover. Superman is way above Raiden's level in terms of feats. Raiden is powerful and an Elder God

Actually, Raiden was only briefly an elder god, between the end of MK4 and start of MK5. Generally, he's not an elder god.

The only thing MKF30 was doing was spamming specials and he claims to be a high-level player? I think not.

@SpidermanWins

DC vs Mortal Kombat is not canon nor is any crossover. Superman is way above Raiden's level in terms of feats. Raiden is powerful and has achieved the rank of Elder God, however, he has no feats that put him on par with anyone like Superman. Even with his magical abilities or the thunder staff he couldn't defeat anyone like Superman. He may be capable of hurting the Man of Steel but beating him is quite a stretch. It appears some people may be a little confused... Here are some of Superman's feats just to put things in perspective-
 
1. Moving 1/3 of the Earth
2. Firing heat vision hotter than the temperature of our sun. 
3. Flying faster than light
4. Defying time itself 
5. Wiping out an entire army of Doomsday clones with a single blast of heat vision 6. Containing a miniature black hole 7. Surviving a Supernova and a blast equivalent to one million nuclear blasts  That is just 7. Tell me Raiden can win so that I might laugh at you.

Yes, I get it.  You had a question ;)

Time to break the ice with some Albert Wesker jiggy.
 

Batman didn't beat Raiden and Sub-Zero, he took a shot from Raiden which put him on his ass and they fought to a minor stand still and Raiden teleported himself and Liu Kang  off the space station....that's not winning a fight, that's Batman dancing around with Raiden, what fight? lol 
 
He only defeated legit Scorpion, Joker, Liu Kang....no evidence showing Batman defeating/beating Raiden or Sub-Zero but the vid I posted clearly shows Sub-Zero K.O.ing Batman....are you blind? 
 
MKDC was just a what if scenario anyway... 
 
Actually, no no noob can just spam fireballs and zone well...try doing that to me since you think it'll work against me? lol you'll fail I assure you. I do it to zone, meaning keep my foe where I want them so that I can plan my next attack. You act as if I can't get in or don't know any combos? hahaha...if you want, I'll personally do 40%-51% combos to you with Ermac, among some other characters I use.... 
 
Ask any high level player, of any fighting game...there is no such thing as "spamming" spamming is a term made up by noobs or scrubs because they can't handle ways to get around it...

@MKF30: Wow that's actually quite impressive. I still get perplexed, however, when Raiden gets beat by Sonya Blade. Please also make sure that people know that crossovers including Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe are Non-Canon and invalid for either party's feats showings. In the meantime, I have a question for you. Are Raiden's powers of magical origin or aren't they? Because if they are, Superman may be in bigger trouble than I thought. Nice clip.

@Assman said:

@SpidermanWins said:

DC vs Mortal Kombat is not canon nor is any crossover. Superman is way above Raiden's level in terms of feats. Raiden is powerful and an Elder God

Actually, Raiden was only briefly an elder god, between the end of MK4 and start of MK5. Generally, he's not an elder god.

I meant that he held that title so shut up Assman. lol jk I just had to say that.

@Isaac, not really since you're repeating the same thing over and over without digesting the facts I've given you....so now facts are nonsense? lol I don't even care about politics anymore, just don't go crying to me when your Obama gets voted out in 2012, k? Til then, good luck. As for the mythology, when did I ever say Jack created the Norse Mythology? I never said that...I said most mythologies are believed by some people but they're not real, it's all a mythological belief...Some believe it's real, but majority do not in the world despite the kind of mythology... The Elder Gods didn't borrow from anything other then some similarities in Greek Mythology and Japanese, the series is based off of an asian influence +cheesy kung fu flicks of the 70's and 80s...I know this because the creators have said it several times among a few other things in pop culture, so not sure where you're getting this "they got it from Marvel" not really, but hey if you want to run with that, then Marvel clearly took most of their ideas from DC so... When did I say EG Raiden is required to beat Batman? You have selective reading seriously....especially when I said the normal version of Raiden can easily take Batman......I already gave you Raiden's feats or spoke of them pages ago. I'm not repeating myself again if you're going to ignore what I say...  

@MKF30: 
High level players
  

    

  
You
  

  If you are such a good zoner,how exactly did the player get close to you and did 25% kombos? Opponent on the other side = FORCE BALL! Opponent right next to you = FORCE BALL! Opponent jumping away from you = TELEKINESIS ATTACK THAT DOESNT ALLOWS ME TO DO A KOMBO! You did some good kombos (too bad i have seen similar kombos hundreds of times already by several players) ,but for the majority of the match,you spammed the same move several times. You arent a ``high-level`` player,no matter how much you cry about it Spam = Any large, annoying, quantity of output,  are you telling me (and everyone on this thread) with a straight face that you didnt spam during this match? seriously? a good zoner uses several different moves to keep distance betwen him and his opponent,you just used Force Ball,not to mention,there are much better characters at keep an opponent at baylie to yourself as much as you want,but you got owned several times already on this thread,give up...you are making a fool of yourself