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Faora for both rounds. Mary just isn't fast enough to react or tag Faora, and the hits she does manage to get in will do lacklustre damage.
You have nothing to base that off of. There is nothing in either movie to say that Faora is faster or stronger than Mary. There is plenty to say that Mary is pretty much invulnerable from Hancock.
Sure I don't. She was blitzing Superman in their fight, tanking his hits like nothing until he cheap shotted her (which she was only knocked out from sensory overload) and blitzed a military squad. Faora is faster than Mary, plain and simple, and is durable enough to tank Mary's heaviest hits. Mary has limited durability feats, so nothing suggests she's completely invulnerable. Hancock was a joke of a film. Biggest threats being a few prison goons and their vulnerability with each other. Faora alone would be a global threat if it weren't for Superman.
Yes because you know, Hancock didn't stop a fully loaded freight train that was going at least 60 MPH casually without even budging. Hancock didn't casually toss a Whale over half a mile. Hancock didn't blitz those bank robbers like nothing and casually knock away their highest powered round. And that was just Hancock. Mary is stronger across the board than Hancock and she was taking Hancock on like it was nothing, She even casually lifted a semi truck and trailer and smashed it down on him like it was nothing. Nothing in the Hancock film hurt Mary until she was becoming mortal. Meanwhile Faora was KOed.
I state again, nothing in either movie says that Faora is faster or stronger than Mary.
Are we talking about Hancock here or Mary? Your whole basis is to equalize both Hancock and Mary. Doesn't work like that... Nothing in the Hancock film hit Mary as hard as what Faora has dished out.
No, my basis is showing what Hancock dealt with and we all know from the film that Mary is stronger on every level than Hancock.
Based on what? Mary never actually beat Hancock in their little tussle. Maybe she was being cocky when she said she was much stronger than Hancock? Their fight wasn't serious and no one was fighting to kill. You're trying to justify Mary's win by showcasing Hancock's feats, silly.
She had no reason to lie about it, and since there are no other showings to go by there is no reason to not go by it. You are trying to justify Faora's win by saying that because we didn't see Mary(though we saw Hancock) be hit by anything major(unless you count being hit by hancock who casually threw a whale over half a mile and stopped a train without even budging) is rather silly as well.
And while yeah, she didn't actually beat him, it is only because the fight was stopped by Ray. She was outclassing him in every single area.
I'll take being hit by someone strong enough to stop a train without budging a single inch and casually throwing a whale over half a mile over anything that Faora showed in the Man of Steel movie, which wasn't really all that much when you think about it. Her fight with Superman wasn't alone, it took two Kryptonians to even match him.
That doesn't make any sense. Statements hold 20% of an argument at most, sometimes more if it holds true, which Mary's statement has yet to see the light. My justification on Faora's win holds more ground than your argument. The heaviest hit Mary took was a questionable and arguably held back hit from Hancock (who has no impressive striking feats that I'm aware of). Superman accidentally flew through a mountain top and caused a huge crater in the ground without so much as an annoyance, yet Faora's hits were making him sweat and tier. Based on those showings, Faora is well within her limits of harming Mary.
Your justification for Faora's win is very unsound. You say that the is stronger and faster than Mary when nothing in either movie showed this to be true. And if you aren't going to accept her statement, then you also can't say that Hancock was holding back when nothing supports that except your own interpretation of events. No striking feats, cause you know, leaning into a train and stopping it without moving a muscle, throwing a whale casually over half a mile does not equate to having good striking power. In case you can't tell, that's sarcasm. Then there is always the fight scene in the hospital where he is severely weakened and still tossing these guys around like ragdolls.
Ray didn't stop the fight. Hancock was on top of Mary and they only noticed Ray after she quit screaming and crying.
While Ray didn't physically stop the fight, the fight stopped because they became aware that Ray was watching them. And yeah, she wasn't screaming and crying because of him hurting her, it was emotions, not physical pain. Up to the point that her emotions got the best of her, she was outclassing Hancock on every level.
Out of context again. Hancock had to brace himself for that hit, partially both strength and durability feat, but what does that or throwing a whale have to do with striking power? Batman can support 1000 pounds and can crack through rocket proof glass. Which one of those feats have more use in a fight? Striking Power =/= Strength. Thought that was a common rule on CV. Also, it didn't take two Kryptonians to match him, you're basing that on the fact that there were two Kryptonians against him? They were outright stomping him.
He didn't brace for the hit at all, all he did was toss Ray's car and lean into it. And no, Striking power =/= strength, but anyone that says that strength does not play a role in striking power is an absolute moron. The fact is that there were two Kryptonians, And yet he still won in the end. So while for a time they had the upper hand, if they had truly matched him, he would not have won in the end.
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