Faora (MoS) vs. Mary (Hancock)

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Female Powerhouse vs. Female Powerhouse

**Hancock is nowhere close

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Round 1

Morals on

Faora still has her helmet (isn't used to the environment)

Start 200 ft. apart

No prep

No prior knowledge

No gear, but can use the environment however they see fit

Win by death or KO

Fight takes place in Manhattan, but they’re allowed to move wherever they please

Round 2

Morals off

Faora has acclimated to the environment

Start 250 ft. apart

No prep

No prior knowledge

No gear, but can use the environment however they see fit

Win by death only

Fight takes place at an abandoned military base, but they’re allowed to move wherever they please

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Rd 1- Faora

Rd 2- I think im still going to take Faora.

Im sure she can get use to the environment just before Mary can give her a couple of blows

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Hancock is nowhere close? Mary stomps Faora.

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I invoke the ALMIGHTY BUMP!!!

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Mary>Faora

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Mary stomps hard.

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Nobody in the Hancock movie can compare to the Man of Steel Kryptonians.

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Hmmm. Mary round 1 in a close one.

Round 2. Fora Stomps here.

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Mary all rounds. She's stronger than Hancock, and Hancock would wreck the MoS kryptonians.

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Yeah, I didn't get a tag until today. But anyway. I am definitely going with Mary. In the Man of Steel Movie Faora was KOed(even if it was caused by the sensory overload and not the missile she was still KOed). In the movie Hancock the only time Mary ever felt any pain at all was when she had been around Hancock for weeks and was becoming mortal. This setup puts hancock far away from her so nothing Faora could do to her would hurt her.

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Faora for both rounds. Mary just isn't fast enough to react or tag Faora, and the hits she does manage to get in will do lacklustre damage.

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Faora for both rounds. Mary just isn't fast enough to react or tag Faora, and the hits she does manage to get in will do lacklustre damage.

You have nothing to base that off of. There is nothing in either movie to say that Faora is faster or stronger than Mary. There is plenty to say that Mary is pretty much invulnerable from Hancock.

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#16  Edited By Van_Cere

@monsterstomp: She was fast enough to keep up with Hancock, who blitzed the bank robbers like crazy.

Anyway, what can she do to Mary anyway? Your using faoras speed like it is the game changer; but Mary's superior strength and durability tops that. Can faora throw a candy bar that hits a man with similar force to a car while weakened? She stalemated (actually was dominating) Hancock throughout their fight.

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Faora for both rounds. Mary just isn't fast enough to react or tag Faora, and the hits she does manage to get in will do lacklustre damage.

You have nothing to base that off of. There is nothing in either movie to say that Faora is faster or stronger than Mary. There is plenty to say that Mary is pretty much invulnerable from Hancock.

Sure I don't. She was blitzing Superman in their fight, tanking his hits like nothing until he cheap shotted her (which she was only knocked out from sensory overload) and blitzed a military squad. Faora is faster than Mary, plain and simple, and is durable enough to tank Mary's heaviest hits. Mary has limited durability feats, so nothing suggests she's completely invulnerable. Hancock was a joke of a film. Biggest threats being a few prison goons and their vulnerability with each other. Faora alone would be a global threat if it weren't for Superman.

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@monsterstomp said:

@randomsid said:

@monsterstomp said:

Faora for both rounds. Mary just isn't fast enough to react or tag Faora, and the hits she does manage to get in will do lacklustre damage.

You have nothing to base that off of. There is nothing in either movie to say that Faora is faster or stronger than Mary. There is plenty to say that Mary is pretty much invulnerable from Hancock.

Sure I don't. She was blitzing Superman in their fight, tanking his hits like nothing until he cheap shotted her (which she was only knocked out from sensory overload) and blitzed a military squad. Faora is faster than Mary, plain and simple, and is durable enough to tank Mary's heaviest hits. Mary has limited durability feats, so nothing suggests she's completely invulnerable. Hancock was a joke of a film. Biggest threats being a few prison goons and their vulnerability with each other. Faora alone would be a global threat if it weren't for Superman.

Yes because you know, Hancock didn't stop a fully loaded freight train that was going at least 60 MPH casually without even budging. Hancock didn't casually toss a Whale over half a mile. Hancock didn't blitz those bank robbers like nothing and casually knock away their highest powered round. And that was just Hancock. Mary is stronger across the board than Hancock and she was taking Hancock on like it was nothing, She even casually lifted a semi truck and trailer and smashed it down on him like it was nothing. And she also casually blitzed Hancock as well. Nothing in the Hancock film hurt Mary until she was becoming mortal. Meanwhile Faora was KOed.

I state again, nothing in either movie says that Faora is faster or stronger than Mary.

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@van_cere said:

@monsterstomp: She was fast enough to keep up with Hancock, who blitzed the bank robbers like crazy.

Anyway, what can she do to Mary anyway? Your using faoras speed like it is the game changer; but Mary's superior strength and durability tops that. Can faora throw a candy bar that hits a man with similar force to a car while weakened? She stalemated (actually was dominating) Hancock throughout their fight.

Hancock's speed blitz isn't as impressive as Faora's. Faora blitzed several soldiers in barely 2 seconds. Hancock blitzed bank robbers in a few minutes.

Can Mary throw a candy bar that hard? No, only Hancock showed that strength, and its not like that attack would do anything to Faora as she's tanked heavier hits. Mary stalemated Hancock in a very questionable/emotional fight. Nothing shows that that fight was serious, at all. Mary's strength and durability is overrated and wanked to the max, just like Hancock.

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Hancock movie's super powered characters violate physics more than Man of Steel's super powered characters does. So Mary definitely wins. In fact she would probably solo the entire Kryptonian criminal fleet in both rounds....

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@van_cere said:

@monsterstomp: She was fast enough to keep up with Hancock, who blitzed the bank robbers like crazy.

Anyway, what can she do to Mary anyway? Your using faoras speed like it is the game changer; but Mary's superior strength and durability tops that. Can faora throw a candy bar that hits a man with similar force to a car while weakened? She stalemated (actually was dominating) Hancock throughout their fight.

Hancock's speed blitz isn't as impressive as Faora's. Faora blitzed several soldiers in barely 2 seconds. Hancock blitzed bank robbers in a few minutes.

You have a very skewed judgement of time. Hancock's feat was seconds, nowhere near even a single minute.

Can Mary throw a candy bar that hard? No, only Hancock showed that strength, and its not like that attack would do anything to Faora as she's tanked heavier hits. Mary stalemated Hancock in a very questionable/emotional fight. Nothing shows that that fight was serious, at all. Mary's strength and durability is overrated and wanked to the max, just like Hancock.

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@monsterstomp said:

@randomsid said:

@monsterstomp said:

Faora for both rounds. Mary just isn't fast enough to react or tag Faora, and the hits she does manage to get in will do lacklustre damage.

You have nothing to base that off of. There is nothing in either movie to say that Faora is faster or stronger than Mary. There is plenty to say that Mary is pretty much invulnerable from Hancock.

Sure I don't. She was blitzing Superman in their fight, tanking his hits like nothing until he cheap shotted her (which she was only knocked out from sensory overload) and blitzed a military squad. Faora is faster than Mary, plain and simple, and is durable enough to tank Mary's heaviest hits. Mary has limited durability feats, so nothing suggests she's completely invulnerable. Hancock was a joke of a film. Biggest threats being a few prison goons and their vulnerability with each other. Faora alone would be a global threat if it weren't for Superman.

Yes because you know, Hancock didn't stop a fully loaded freight train that was going at least 60 MPH casually without even budging. Hancock didn't casually toss a Whale over half a mile. Hancock didn't blitz those bank robbers like nothing and casually knock away their highest powered round. And that was just Hancock. Mary is stronger across the board than Hancock and she was taking Hancock on like it was nothing, She even casually lifted a semi truck and trailer and smashed it down on him like it was nothing. Nothing in the Hancock film hurt Mary until she was becoming mortal. Meanwhile Faora was KOed.

I state again, nothing in either movie says that Faora is faster or stronger than Mary.

Are we talking about Hancock here or Mary? Your whole basis is to equalize both Hancock and Mary. Doesn't work like that... Nothing in the Hancock film hit Mary as hard as what Faora has dished out.

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@randomsid: Well whatever, I haven't seen that abomination of a film in forever. Hancock blitzed the robbers in a much longer fashion. He just straight bullrushed them. He couldn't change direction of his attacks instantly like Faora could.

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@randomsid said:

@monsterstomp said:

@randomsid said:

@monsterstomp said:

Faora for both rounds. Mary just isn't fast enough to react or tag Faora, and the hits she does manage to get in will do lacklustre damage.

You have nothing to base that off of. There is nothing in either movie to say that Faora is faster or stronger than Mary. There is plenty to say that Mary is pretty much invulnerable from Hancock.

Sure I don't. She was blitzing Superman in their fight, tanking his hits like nothing until he cheap shotted her (which she was only knocked out from sensory overload) and blitzed a military squad. Faora is faster than Mary, plain and simple, and is durable enough to tank Mary's heaviest hits. Mary has limited durability feats, so nothing suggests she's completely invulnerable. Hancock was a joke of a film. Biggest threats being a few prison goons and their vulnerability with each other. Faora alone would be a global threat if it weren't for Superman.

Yes because you know, Hancock didn't stop a fully loaded freight train that was going at least 60 MPH casually without even budging. Hancock didn't casually toss a Whale over half a mile. Hancock didn't blitz those bank robbers like nothing and casually knock away their highest powered round. And that was just Hancock. Mary is stronger across the board than Hancock and she was taking Hancock on like it was nothing, She even casually lifted a semi truck and trailer and smashed it down on him like it was nothing. Nothing in the Hancock film hurt Mary until she was becoming mortal. Meanwhile Faora was KOed.

I state again, nothing in either movie says that Faora is faster or stronger than Mary.

Are we talking about Hancock here or Mary? Your whole basis is to equalize both Hancock and Mary. Doesn't work like that... Nothing in the Hancock film hit Mary as hard as what Faora has dished out.

No, my basis is showing what Hancock dealt with and we all know from the film that Mary is stronger on every level than Hancock.

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@monsterstomp said:

@randomsid said:

@monsterstomp said:

@randomsid said:

@monsterstomp said:

Faora for both rounds. Mary just isn't fast enough to react or tag Faora, and the hits she does manage to get in will do lacklustre damage.

You have nothing to base that off of. There is nothing in either movie to say that Faora is faster or stronger than Mary. There is plenty to say that Mary is pretty much invulnerable from Hancock.

Sure I don't. She was blitzing Superman in their fight, tanking his hits like nothing until he cheap shotted her (which she was only knocked out from sensory overload) and blitzed a military squad. Faora is faster than Mary, plain and simple, and is durable enough to tank Mary's heaviest hits. Mary has limited durability feats, so nothing suggests she's completely invulnerable. Hancock was a joke of a film. Biggest threats being a few prison goons and their vulnerability with each other. Faora alone would be a global threat if it weren't for Superman.

Yes because you know, Hancock didn't stop a fully loaded freight train that was going at least 60 MPH casually without even budging. Hancock didn't casually toss a Whale over half a mile. Hancock didn't blitz those bank robbers like nothing and casually knock away their highest powered round. And that was just Hancock. Mary is stronger across the board than Hancock and she was taking Hancock on like it was nothing, She even casually lifted a semi truck and trailer and smashed it down on him like it was nothing. Nothing in the Hancock film hurt Mary until she was becoming mortal. Meanwhile Faora was KOed.

I state again, nothing in either movie says that Faora is faster or stronger than Mary.

Are we talking about Hancock here or Mary? Your whole basis is to equalize both Hancock and Mary. Doesn't work like that... Nothing in the Hancock film hit Mary as hard as what Faora has dished out.

No, my basis is showing what Hancock dealt with and we all know from the film that Mary is stronger on every level than Hancock.

Based on what? Mary never actually beat Hancock in their little tussle. Maybe she was being cocky when she said she was much stronger than Hancock? Their fight wasn't serious and no one was fighting to kill. You're trying to justify Mary's win by showcasing Hancock's feats, silly.

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@monsterstomp said:

@randomsid said:

@monsterstomp said:

@randomsid said:

@monsterstomp said:

@randomsid said:

@monsterstomp said:

Faora for both rounds. Mary just isn't fast enough to react or tag Faora, and the hits she does manage to get in will do lacklustre damage.

You have nothing to base that off of. There is nothing in either movie to say that Faora is faster or stronger than Mary. There is plenty to say that Mary is pretty much invulnerable from Hancock.

Sure I don't. She was blitzing Superman in their fight, tanking his hits like nothing until he cheap shotted her (which she was only knocked out from sensory overload) and blitzed a military squad. Faora is faster than Mary, plain and simple, and is durable enough to tank Mary's heaviest hits. Mary has limited durability feats, so nothing suggests she's completely invulnerable. Hancock was a joke of a film. Biggest threats being a few prison goons and their vulnerability with each other. Faora alone would be a global threat if it weren't for Superman.

Yes because you know, Hancock didn't stop a fully loaded freight train that was going at least 60 MPH casually without even budging. Hancock didn't casually toss a Whale over half a mile. Hancock didn't blitz those bank robbers like nothing and casually knock away their highest powered round. And that was just Hancock. Mary is stronger across the board than Hancock and she was taking Hancock on like it was nothing, She even casually lifted a semi truck and trailer and smashed it down on him like it was nothing. Nothing in the Hancock film hurt Mary until she was becoming mortal. Meanwhile Faora was KOed.

I state again, nothing in either movie says that Faora is faster or stronger than Mary.

Are we talking about Hancock here or Mary? Your whole basis is to equalize both Hancock and Mary. Doesn't work like that... Nothing in the Hancock film hit Mary as hard as what Faora has dished out.

No, my basis is showing what Hancock dealt with and we all know from the film that Mary is stronger on every level than Hancock.

Based on what? Mary never actually beat Hancock in their little tussle. Maybe she was being cocky when she said she was much stronger than Hancock? Their fight wasn't serious and no one was fighting to kill. You're trying to justify Mary's win by showcasing Hancock's feats, silly.

She had no reason to lie about it, and since there are no other showings to go by there is no reason to not go by it. You are trying to justify Faora's win by saying that because we didn't see Mary(though we saw Hancock) be hit by anything major(unless you count being hit by hancock who casually threw a whale over half a mile and stopped a train without even budging) is rather silly as well.

And while yeah, she didn't actually beat him, it is only because the fight was stopped by Ray. She was outclassing him in every single area.

I'll take being hit by someone strong enough to stop a train without budging a single inch and casually throwing a whale over half a mile over anything that Faora showed in the Man of Steel movie, which wasn't really all that much when you think about it. Her fight with Superman wasn't alone, it took two Kryptonians to even match him.

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@monsterstomp said:

@randomsid said:

@monsterstomp said:

@randomsid said:

@monsterstomp said:

@randomsid said:

@monsterstomp said:

Faora for both rounds. Mary just isn't fast enough to react or tag Faora, and the hits she does manage to get in will do lacklustre damage.

You have nothing to base that off of. There is nothing in either movie to say that Faora is faster or stronger than Mary. There is plenty to say that Mary is pretty much invulnerable from Hancock.

Sure I don't. She was blitzing Superman in their fight, tanking his hits like nothing until he cheap shotted her (which she was only knocked out from sensory overload) and blitzed a military squad. Faora is faster than Mary, plain and simple, and is durable enough to tank Mary's heaviest hits. Mary has limited durability feats, so nothing suggests she's completely invulnerable. Hancock was a joke of a film. Biggest threats being a few prison goons and their vulnerability with each other. Faora alone would be a global threat if it weren't for Superman.

Yes because you know, Hancock didn't stop a fully loaded freight train that was going at least 60 MPH casually without even budging. Hancock didn't casually toss a Whale over half a mile. Hancock didn't blitz those bank robbers like nothing and casually knock away their highest powered round. And that was just Hancock. Mary is stronger across the board than Hancock and she was taking Hancock on like it was nothing, She even casually lifted a semi truck and trailer and smashed it down on him like it was nothing. Nothing in the Hancock film hurt Mary until she was becoming mortal. Meanwhile Faora was KOed.

I state again, nothing in either movie says that Faora is faster or stronger than Mary.

Are we talking about Hancock here or Mary? Your whole basis is to equalize both Hancock and Mary. Doesn't work like that... Nothing in the Hancock film hit Mary as hard as what Faora has dished out.

No, my basis is showing what Hancock dealt with and we all know from the film that Mary is stronger on every level than Hancock.

Based on what? Mary never actually beat Hancock in their little tussle. Maybe she was being cocky when she said she was much stronger than Hancock? Their fight wasn't serious and no one was fighting to kill. You're trying to justify Mary's win by showcasing Hancock's feats, silly.

She had no reason to lie about it, and since there are no other showings to go by there is no reason to not go by it. You are trying to justify Faora's win by saying that because we didn't see Mary(though we saw Hancock) be hit by anything major(unless you count being hit by hancock who casually threw a whale over half a mile and stopped a train without even budging) is rather silly as well.

And while yeah, she didn't actually beat him, it is only because the fight was stopped by Ray. She was outclassing him in every single area.

I'll take being hit by someone strong enough to stop a train without budging a single inch and casually throwing a whale over half a mile over anything that Faora showed in the Man of Steel movie, which wasn't really all that much when you think about it. Her fight with Superman wasn't alone, it took two Kryptonians to even match him.

That doesn't make any sense. Statements hold 20% of an argument at most, sometimes more if it holds true, which Mary's statement has yet to see the light. My justification on Faora's win holds more ground than your argument. The heaviest hit Mary took was a questionable and arguably held back hit from Hancock (who has no impressive striking feats that I'm aware of). Superman accidentally flew through a mountain top and caused a huge crater in the ground without so much as an annoyance, yet Faora's hits were making him sweat and tier. Based on those showings, Faora is well within her limits of harming Mary.

Ray didn't stop the fight. Hancock was on top of Mary and they only noticed Ray after she quit screaming and crying.

Out of context again. Hancock had to brace himself for that hit, partially both strength and durability feat, but what does that or throwing a whale have to do with striking power? Batman can support 1000 pounds and can crack through rocket proof glass. Which one of those feats have more use in a fight? Striking Power =/= Strength. Thought that was a common rule on CV. Also, it didn't take two Kryptonians to match him, you're basing that on the fact that there were two Kryptonians against him? They were outright stomping him.

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@randomsid said:

@monsterstomp said:

@randomsid said:

@monsterstomp said:

@randomsid said:

@monsterstomp said:

@randomsid said:

@monsterstomp said:

Faora for both rounds. Mary just isn't fast enough to react or tag Faora, and the hits she does manage to get in will do lacklustre damage.

You have nothing to base that off of. There is nothing in either movie to say that Faora is faster or stronger than Mary. There is plenty to say that Mary is pretty much invulnerable from Hancock.

Sure I don't. She was blitzing Superman in their fight, tanking his hits like nothing until he cheap shotted her (which she was only knocked out from sensory overload) and blitzed a military squad. Faora is faster than Mary, plain and simple, and is durable enough to tank Mary's heaviest hits. Mary has limited durability feats, so nothing suggests she's completely invulnerable. Hancock was a joke of a film. Biggest threats being a few prison goons and their vulnerability with each other. Faora alone would be a global threat if it weren't for Superman.

Yes because you know, Hancock didn't stop a fully loaded freight train that was going at least 60 MPH casually without even budging. Hancock didn't casually toss a Whale over half a mile. Hancock didn't blitz those bank robbers like nothing and casually knock away their highest powered round. And that was just Hancock. Mary is stronger across the board than Hancock and she was taking Hancock on like it was nothing, She even casually lifted a semi truck and trailer and smashed it down on him like it was nothing. Nothing in the Hancock film hurt Mary until she was becoming mortal. Meanwhile Faora was KOed.

I state again, nothing in either movie says that Faora is faster or stronger than Mary.

Are we talking about Hancock here or Mary? Your whole basis is to equalize both Hancock and Mary. Doesn't work like that... Nothing in the Hancock film hit Mary as hard as what Faora has dished out.

No, my basis is showing what Hancock dealt with and we all know from the film that Mary is stronger on every level than Hancock.

Based on what? Mary never actually beat Hancock in their little tussle. Maybe she was being cocky when she said she was much stronger than Hancock? Their fight wasn't serious and no one was fighting to kill. You're trying to justify Mary's win by showcasing Hancock's feats, silly.

She had no reason to lie about it, and since there are no other showings to go by there is no reason to not go by it. You are trying to justify Faora's win by saying that because we didn't see Mary(though we saw Hancock) be hit by anything major(unless you count being hit by hancock who casually threw a whale over half a mile and stopped a train without even budging) is rather silly as well.

And while yeah, she didn't actually beat him, it is only because the fight was stopped by Ray. She was outclassing him in every single area.

I'll take being hit by someone strong enough to stop a train without budging a single inch and casually throwing a whale over half a mile over anything that Faora showed in the Man of Steel movie, which wasn't really all that much when you think about it. Her fight with Superman wasn't alone, it took two Kryptonians to even match him.

That doesn't make any sense. Statements hold 20% of an argument at most, sometimes more if it holds true, which Mary's statement has yet to see the light. My justification on Faora's win holds more ground than your argument. The heaviest hit Mary took was a questionable and arguably held back hit from Hancock (who has no impressive striking feats that I'm aware of). Superman accidentally flew through a mountain top and caused a huge crater in the ground without so much as an annoyance, yet Faora's hits were making him sweat and tier. Based on those showings, Faora is well within her limits of harming Mary.

Your justification for Faora's win is very unsound. You say that the is stronger and faster than Mary when nothing in either movie showed this to be true. And if you aren't going to accept her statement, then you also can't say that Hancock was holding back when nothing supports that except your own interpretation of events. No striking feats, cause you know, leaning into a train and stopping it without moving a muscle, throwing a whale casually over half a mile does not equate to having good striking power. In case you can't tell, that's sarcasm. Then there is always the fight scene in the hospital where he is severely weakened and still tossing these guys around like ragdolls.

Ray didn't stop the fight. Hancock was on top of Mary and they only noticed Ray after she quit screaming and crying.

While Ray didn't physically stop the fight, the fight stopped because they became aware that Ray was watching them. And yeah, she wasn't screaming and crying because of him hurting her, it was emotions, not physical pain. Up to the point that her emotions got the best of her, she was outclassing Hancock on every level.

Out of context again. Hancock had to brace himself for that hit, partially both strength and durability feat, but what does that or throwing a whale have to do with striking power? Batman can support 1000 pounds and can crack through rocket proof glass. Which one of those feats have more use in a fight? Striking Power =/= Strength. Thought that was a common rule on CV. Also, it didn't take two Kryptonians to match him, you're basing that on the fact that there were two Kryptonians against him? They were outright stomping him.

He didn't brace for the hit at all, all he did was toss Ray's car and lean into it. And no, Striking power =/= strength, but anyone that says that strength does not play a role in striking power is an absolute moron. The fact is that there were two Kryptonians, And yet he still won in the end. So while for a time they had the upper hand, if they had truly matched him, he would not have won in the end.

Basically, with only one movie to go by, we are really going to have to agree to disagree on this one. Nothing in either movie shows Faora to be faster or stronger than Mary. Nothing in either movies shows that Mary would be hurt by anything Faora did. I'm sorry if you don't like a Kryptonian losing, but nothing you say will change my mind on it without more showings to go by.

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Round One - Mary

Round Two - Faora.

Charlize Theron wins both rounds due to being way hotter

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Your justification for Faora's win is very unsound. You say that the is stronger and faster than Mary when nothing in either movie showed this to be true. And if you aren't going to accept her statement, then you also can't say that Hancock was holding back when nothing supports that except your own interpretation of events. No striking feats, cause you know, leaning into a train and stopping it without moving a muscle, throwing a whale casually over half a mile does not equate to having good striking power. In case you can't tell, that's sarcasm. Then there is always the fight scene in the hospital where he is severely weakened and still tossing these guys around like ragdolls.

Are you kidding? I've just proven that Faora is faster and has the damage output to harm Mary. If you're going to ignore those feats, then I win by default. Tough talk from someone who can't prove that Mary is faster and has the damage output to harm Faora.

My interpretation of the Mary vs. Hancock fight is fact. No one was out for blood, plain and simple. Therefore they were holding back to some degree. I'm sure brute strength has little to do with striking power. Some of the most hardest punches in the world can reach 1000+ pounds, kicks being more than twice that. Recorded by men who aren't as hulked out as Dwyane "The Rock" Johnson. With that in mind, I never saw anything impressive from what Hancock or Mary did whereas I've given a gauge of where Faora sits on the striking scale.

While Ray didn't physically stop the fight, the fight stopped because they became aware that Ray was watching them. And yeah, she wasn't screaming and crying because of him hurting her, it was emotions, not physical pain. Up to the point that her emotions got the best of her, she was outclassing Hancock on every level.

Fight was still unimpressive as a whole.

He didn't brace for the hit at all, all he did was toss Ray's car and lean into it. And no, Striking power =/= strength, but anyone that says that strength does not play a role in striking power is an absolute moron. The fact is that there were two Kryptonians, And yet he still won in the end. So while for a time they had the upper hand, if they had truly matched him, he would not have won in the end.

Sure he didn't brace. Deny whatever visual aid you want. I count leaning in into the train a form of preparation.

Superman won due to the amount of interference. Faora was busy with military while Superman and Nam-Ek were fighting. Superman BFR's Nam-Ek for a brief moment and cheap shots Faora while she's distracted. Superman was clearly getting his head kicked in when both combatants were focused on him.

Basically, with only one movie to go by, we are really going to have to agree to disagree on this one. Nothing in either movie shows Faora to be faster or stronger than Mary. Nothing in either movies shows that Mary would be hurt by anything Faora did. I'm sorry if you don't like a Kryptonian losing, but nothing you say will change my mind on it without more showings to go by.

Wow.

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@monsterstomp: She was fast enough to keep up with Hancock, who blitzed the bank robbers like crazy.

Anyway, what can she do to Mary anyway? Your using faoras speed like it is the game changer; but Mary's superior strength and durability tops that. Can faora throw a candy bar that hits a man with similar force to a car while weakened? She stalemated (actually was dominating) Hancock throughout their fight.

Hancock's speed blitz isn't as impressive as Faora's. Faora blitzed several soldiers in barely 2 seconds. Hancock blitzed bank robbers in a few minutes.

Can Mary throw a candy bar that hard? No, only Hancock showed that strength,.

You do realise that Mary is stronger than Hancock? Its been stated countless times. Faora's striking feats a subpar and there is nothing that would really put her above Mary. Additionally, MOS krptonians can be hurt by conventional weapons.

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You do realise that Mary is stronger than Hancock? Its been stated countless times. Faora's striking feats a subpar and there is nothing that would really put her above Mary. Additionally, MOS krptonians can be hurt by conventional weapons.

Lord help me, its been stated once and nothing backs that statement up.

Faora's striking feats are enough to harm Mary, I just proved that. MOS Kryptonian's were never harmed by conventional weapons. Faora was shrugging off grenade launchers, assault rifles, hits from an angered Superman, even a cheap shot from Superman which busted her mask. She was only knocked out by a missile because of her senses being overloaded. She's still tanked harder hits than what Mary can dish out.

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@redmonkeyssj4 said:

Mary all rounds. She's stronger than Hancock, and Hancock would wreck the MoS kryptonians.

Based on absolutely....nothing...MOS Superman would trash Hancock and Mary simultaneously.

Even Golden Age Superman completely stomps Hancock.

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I just proved that.

Did you?

MOS Kryptonian's were never harmed by conventional weapons.

Really!? Could have fooled me.

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Additionally, Zac Synder confirmed in an interview that they could harmed by conventional weapons. A cruise missile is the equivalent of being hit by a line backer with a 10 ft running start.

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#35 frozen  Moderator

@gxrevolution96: Superman withstood the World Engine; a planetary device. Foara in turn smacked Superman silly.

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@gxrevolution96: Superman withstood the World Engine; a planetary device. Foara in turn smacked Superman silly.

Word of god is that they can be hurt or possibly killed by conventional weapons. Hancock tanked a 200 ton freighter moving at 50 MPH without budging.

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@gxrevolution96: Cool. Mary was presumably more powerful than Hancock who tanked a 200 ton freighter.

Foara smacked around and struck hard enough to damage a Superman who withstood a device capable of terraforming an entire planet.

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Weren't Hancock superhumans invincible unless they got close to each other? Sure it's ridiculous but they weren't really harmed any other way.

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@frozen said:

@gxrevolution96: Cool. Mary was presumably more powerful than Hancock who tanked a 200 ton freighter.

Foara smacked around and struck hard enough to damage a Superman who withstood a device capable of terraforming an entire planet.

When did Faora damage superman?

He never, ever showed any damage for her hits.

He was tossed around, ok, but hurt?

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Round 1 Mary because she KO faora by destroying her helmet.

Raund 2 Im not sure.

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#42 frozen  Moderator

@pierpat: He took damage at 0:52. It's his damage soak which helped him continue.

MOS stomps the Hancock Universe.

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@frozen said:

@pierpat: He took damage at 0:52. It's his damage soak which helped him continue.

MOS stomps the Hancock Universe.

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So, heavy breathing and a not erect pose is "taking damage"?

He was simply tired IMO.

He had already been fighting for quite a bit then.

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@frozen: Again World engine is not planetary. It only makes gravity stronger and changes the atmosphere. It took like a minute to destroy skyscrappers. And it makes millions of times less force against supe than it does to buildings. It shows that supe is not that much more durable than concrete. But it weakened supe. It shows nothing. It is not a good feat.

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@frozen: Again World engine is not planetary. It only makes gravity stronger and changes the atmosphere. It took like a minute to destroy skyscrappers. And it makes millions of times less force against supe than it does to buildings. It shows that supe is not that much more durable than concrete. But it weakened supe. It shows nothing. It is not a good feat.

The World Engine is planetary. The Earth's mass was being increased and it's atmosphere changed, if Superman didn't stop it before crashing the phantom drives, the gravity field from the singularity would have been increased and The Earth would have gone. Colonel Hardy waits to attack Zod's ship for a reason. The World Engine was going to destroy the world. Superman was also weakened while he destroyed it.

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#46 frozen  Moderator

@pierpat: That was clear damage. The force of the impact made him tired, prior to that he was flapping his arms around getting b-tch slapped.

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What is this nonsense I am reading. Mary literally god stomps any MOS kryptonian. Hancock and Mary are immortal and cannot be killed and have feats well beyond MOS. Faora does not have the feats to suggest that she could hurt Mary. Mary would most probably tank her hits. Mos Kryptonians are generally subpar. Faora has normal speed and and reaction feats. Clark gets KO by oil rig and conventional weapons. As does Nam-ek and Faora. Faora was KO'd by an explosion. I don't bother say it was sensory overload, because it does not affect her durable her body is

Hancock causally tanks freighter that can weigh up 300 tons and shrugs off an RPG like it is nothing.

Faora gets bitch slapped. Mary flies her into space and then throws her into the sun.

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@gxrevolution96: did Synder said what can kill mos supe ? Can he survive something 100 times more powerful than a normal cruise missle ?

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@frozen said:

@pierpat: That was clear damage. The force of the impact made him tired, prior to that he was flapping his arms around getting b-tch slapped.

Mah, questionable.

A fall can blow the wind out of me without causing any real damage.

That could have happened there, and it's what i'd back up, considering that i consider "damage" something that has some sort of effect trough out time, he never accused/failed to do something/referenced any pain/problems after that fight.

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@loklegends said:

What is this nonsense I am reading. Mary literally god stomps any MOS kryptonian. Hancock and Mary are immortal and cannot be killed and have feats well beyond MOS. Faora does not have the feats to suggest that she could hurt Mary. Mary would most probably tank her hits. Mos Kryptonians are generally subpar. Faora has normal speed and and reaction feats. Clark gets KO by oil rig and conventional weapons. As does Nam-ek and Faora. Faora was KO'd by an explosion. I don't bother say it was sensory overload, because it does not affect her durable her body is

Hancock causally tanks freighter that can weigh up 300 tons and shrugs off an RPG like it is nothing.

Faora gets bitch slapped. Mary flies her into space and then throws her into the sun.

The nonsense is in your post.

Mary nor Hancock have no feats which put them anywhere near a Kryptonian, not even a Golden Age Kryptonian. The best Hancock withstood was a freight train. MOS withstood a device capable of terraforming an entire planet by the time he was Superman.

Which is better, a 300 ton freight train or the World Engine? I'll let you decide.