The fight takes place in Times Square. Morals are off. Death ftw. No Prep. Picture Versions. Fantomex's gear is standard. Begin 25 FT.
Fantomex vs Carnage
Fantomex thread 101 lbah blah blah misdirection blah bah fantomex wins blah blah fantomex solos blah blah fantomex stomps.
@ChaosBlazer said:
Even with misdirection, how can Fantomex defeat Carnage? I doubt his guns will do crap to Carnage.
He doesn't have to hurt Carnage to win, trapping him in an illusion is good enough to count for incapacitation, at least according to the rules and every other thread Fantomex could use misdirection in.
@Esquire said:
From what I've seen, misdirection never lasts more than a few seconds. Fantomex can't really put Carnage down with his standard gear, so eventually misdirect will run out and Carnage will stomp him.
It lasted hours when Fantomex brought Jean and Professor X to his "house."
Well, even if Jean-Phillipe tricks Carnage with his misdirection, how the hell will he hurt him? I say Carnage takes it.
@JediXMan said:
@Esquire said:
From what I've seen, misdirection never lasts more than a few seconds. Fantomex can't really put Carnage down with his standard gear, so eventually misdirect will run out and Carnage will stomp him.
It lasted hours when Fantomex brought Jean and Professor X to his "house."
Forgot about that one. I've never been clear why he can do that, but then only misdirects Nightcrawler or Wolverine for a few seconds in the Dark Angel Saga. He uses it far less than I would in his shoes.
@Esquire said:
@JediXMan said:
@Esquire said:
From what I've seen, misdirection never lasts more than a few seconds. Fantomex can't really put Carnage down with his standard gear, so eventually misdirect will run out and Carnage will stomp him.
It lasted hours when Fantomex brought Jean and Professor X to his "house."
Forgot about that one. I've never been clear why he can do that, but then only misdirects Nightcrawler or Wolverine for a few seconds in the Dark Angel Saga. He uses it far less than I would in his shoes.
He doesn't usually feel the need to do it at long lengths most of the time.
@ghost_rider1 said:
Fantomex has no way to beat carnage. One punch from carnage will kill him.
He doesn't have to beat Carnage with his tools. He can have Carnage effectively defeat himself.
I wonder if misdirection can make someone hurt themself....the pain will most likely get them out of the illusion. I don't think he can make carnage hurt himself to the point to when he is KO'ed@ghost_rider1 said:
Fantomex has no way to beat carnage. One punch from carnage will kill him.He doesn't have to beat Carnage with his tools. He can have Carnage effectively defeat himself.
@ghost_rider1 said:
@Super_SoldierXIII wonder if misdirection can make someone hurt themself....the pain will most likely get them out of the illusion. I don't think he can make carnage hurt himself to the point to when he is KO'ed@ghost_rider1 said:
Fantomex has no way to beat carnage. One punch from carnage will kill him.He doesn't have to beat Carnage with his tools. He can have Carnage effectively defeat himself.
Mind over matter. He can misdirect using a scenario that can convince Carnage it's in his best interests ...
@Super_SoldierXII said:
@ghost_rider1 said:
@Super_SoldierXIII wonder if misdirection can make someone hurt themself....the pain will most likely get them out of the illusion. I don't think he can make carnage hurt himself to the point to when he is KO'ed@ghost_rider1 said:
Fantomex has no way to beat carnage. One punch from carnage will kill him.He doesn't have to beat Carnage with his tools. He can have Carnage effectively defeat himself.
Mind over matter. He can misdirect using a scenario that can convince Carnage it's in his best interests ...
when has he ever used that as a battle plan?
@karetaker said:
@Super_SoldierXII said:
@ghost_rider1 said:
@Super_SoldierXIII wonder if misdirection can make someone hurt themself....the pain will most likely get them out of the illusion. I don't think he can make carnage hurt himself to the point to when he is KO'ed@ghost_rider1 said:
Fantomex has no way to beat carnage. One punch from carnage will kill him.He doesn't have to beat Carnage with his tools. He can have Carnage effectively defeat himself.
Mind over matter. He can misdirect using a scenario that can convince Carnage it's in his best interests ...
when has he ever used that as a battle plan?
Pages of X-Force. More specifically, "The Apocalypse Solution" storyline. Have you read much involving Fantomex?
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