Fantastic Four vs Order of the Red Lotus

Location is the lawn of the X-Mansion.

Round 1: Mr. Fantastic, Invisible Girl, The Thing, and Human Torch vs Zaheer, P'li, Ghazan, and Ming-Hua

Round 2: Fantastic Four gets Spider-Man, Red Lotus gets Korra

Who wins?

sue solos

Comics F4 any member solos.

Movie F4 is a debate

As does Ben and Johnny tbh.

FF

Comic versions for F4? Each member could solo.

@lvenger: Can they "bend" Johnny & Ben ? Lol

Sue solos

Johnny solos

Thing solos

Sue solos

Spiderman solos

Possibly Johnny's flames but I don't know about Ben's skin. Maybe yes, maybe no. The FF have never faced an Earthbender before so I don't know if Ben's skin could be bent by Ghazin. Would be cool to see him take control of Ben and have him fight the FF like a puppet for the Red Lotus.

@lvenger: Or if Ghazin turns him into Lava or something that'll be cool to see . But I don't see the RL taking the comic versions , they definitely have a chance against the movie versions .

I honestly can't see Reed or Ben soloing.

Johnny can manipulate fire, too. That's how he shapes it(into the "4" simbol, for example). So I don't see them bending him.

As for Ben, I don't even know if that's actual rock, it should be something like organic rock(like Emma Frost's diamond form or Colossus' steel form), I don't know if they can manipulate it.

Anyway Sue can stop matter manipulation/TK with shields so she could just protect them.

True I had forgotten that little fact. It's just that hypothetically, a stronger firebender could take control of his flames. But again that's major hypotheticals with no proof to support the claim. Your point makes way more sense though.

As for Ben, that also makes sense since it's technically not real Earth and is part of his own body's reaction to the cosmic rays so earthbending probably wouldn't work anyway.

How do you think Bens body would react if they bended lava on him? Lava bending, followed by water bending & some air bending can turn them into stone

@uugieboogie: Well he's tanked lava, the Earth's core temperatures and Celestial blasts so lava bending might not be too effective on him.

I think they have a better chance against the movie versions lol