Fantastic Four Vs DC Team

VS

Green Arrow & Black Canary // Red Tornado// Ice

Both Teams are in character.

DC team is pre-DCnU.

Fight takes place in Marvel NY consisting of ONLY those depicted.

Let the battle begin!

F4.

i thnk the ff wins this. red tornado is the only real danger.

Please explain who wins and why!

sue could solo I think. but Torch cancels out frost and thing could get hold his own until sue can take them out with force fields in their brains or suffocate them in a force field. Reed would hopefully stay out of the fight because I can't stand seeing him in any type of fight scenario

@charlieboy said:

i thnk the ff wins this. red tornado is the only real danger.

I was thinking Red Tornado is a huge powerhouse for team 2, allowing the others to use their skills while the F4 deal with tornado at first, GA with all his trick arrows and Canary screaming her head off, (will her mouth get bubbled by Sue?). Threw in Ice to balance out the elemental aspect of the battle. I think there is a good battle to be had here...

none of the dc characters can break sue's shield. she can feasibly solo.

@charlieboy:

Im sure Tornado could bust out, and the only way she solos is if she blows up everyones heads from the inside and i dont think she would do that right off the bat....

@RingSlinger: sue can make multiple shields and she can make her shields sound proof. canary cry is pretty useless here. and sue can contain the tornado fairly easily or just explode him from the inside with a force bubble. this fight won't last very long.

@RingSlinger: no that is not the only way she can win. and i doubt the tornado could bust out. ff wins this easy.

From the last volume of JLA before Flashpoint, I remember Batman calling Red Tornado an air elemental who could no longer function outside of his android body. So destroying his body should render him useless.

Tornado holds his own against superman level beings and can repair himself. Im positive Arrow will have more than one trick up his sleeve that can hurt the F4. Canary will probably be taken care of first in ways previously stated and Ice can turn the battlefield into a snow storm, making it harder for the F4 to track their movements, allowing Arrow and Canary to get in some attacks as well as Tornado harnessing the icy winds and might even extinguish Johnny if the snow storm doesnt do it first.

@RingSlinger: he doesn't repair that quickly if blown up. which sue could make happen easily. ice is nothing compared to johnny. and arrow and canary are getting taken down quick.

@CitizenBane:

Isnt that true for all of the participants? I mean if you rip Johnnys head off his body, he becomes useless...

@charlieboy:

Johnny is more powerful, but Ice can affect the weather and area around her with her powers. Turning the battlefield into a blizzard would allow Tornado to use the air to freeze johnny into extinguishing or freezing Reed. Like you stated earlier the real challenge for team DC will be Sue. Can she make body bubbles and rip anyone apart? Absolutely yes. Will she do this in time before someone on her team gets taken out? How often has she used the Body Busting technique and how quickly in the battle has she used it???

@RingSlinger: on robots? fairly quick. she is not going to tear humans apart but she doesn't need to either. i figure she can take out tornado quick and easy.

She doesnt know hes a robot, he could be a person like Iron man using a suit or something. I apologize for not specifying in the OP, the teams have no prior knowledge of each other this is a random encounter.

Sorry for not being more clear in the rules, im still getting the hang of setting up battles.

@RingSlinger: i suppose. ff still wins though.

F4 easy

3 dc's characters?? this is unfair

@matchesmalone21:

Four.

Green Arrow, Black Canary, Red Tornado, Ice.

Would this battle be any better if I replaced Canary with Zatana?

Sue can solo.

@charlieboy said:

i thnk the ff wins this. red tornado is the only real danger.

Correct.

@CitizenBane said:

F4.