Fantastic 4 vs Ben 10

Ben 10 's Team = Ben , Gwen, and Kevin  
 

Ben 10.

FF easy, Reed will find a way to disable the watch...

Without prep, I think Ben's team could maybe get 6/10

With prep, F4 9/10

@LordMaverick said:

FF easy, Reed will find a way to disable the watch...

not with out prep.

@zandor: he stoped more powerfull beings than this team before, without prep.....

@LordMaverick:Not always :P

@TheAcidSkull said:

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fantastic four have faced greater threats , they take this

by that logic ben's team could do the same since they fought a demi-god with out prep.= or plot devices.

@TheAcidSkull: well ultimate ben can transform into an alien just by thinking (he's done it before with out the master code)

@TheAcidSkull said:

@zandor said:

@TheAcidSkull: well ultimate ben can transform into an alien just by thinking (he's done it before with out the master code)

but what does that have to do with anything, he still have timer

around ten minutes, but ultimate echo echo can pretty much take on the f4 by himself.

FF takes this with relative ease.

FF wins

F4 wins in a decent fight.

Ben

I would say Ben and the gang, but his gang his gone and he has reverted back into a cildish like mind set.

Well, actually, I'm going to alter my answer. Ben and the gang if this is Ultimate Alien. F4 stomp if it's Alien Force season 1 or 2.

Also, the timer doesn't really apply, it rarely activates after 10 minutes anymore, he goes through alien transformations like air, and Ultimizes all the time, and still lasts more than ten minutes.

Ben 10s team wins without prep it would come down to invisible woman vs Gwen (gwen probably has to go anodite)

Kevin vs thing (unless Kevin has tadinite)

Ben 10 vs reed and torch (Ben 10 goes heat blast and steals torches fire and the reed can't touch him)

With prep ff stomps but then Kevin absorbs the ultimatetrix DNA and becomes ultimate Kevin and solos the ff (reed wouldn't see this coming)

None of Ben's aliens that he can realistically use are strong enough to take out Thing. Gwen isn't taking out Thing and neither is Kevin.

@beautifulrevery said:

None of Ben's aliens that he can realistically use are strong enough to take out Thing. Gwen isn't taking out Thing and neither is Kevin.

Really ultimate way big?

If they r blood lusted that means gwen is going to be going all out anodite and in that case she solos

@AllStarSuperman said:

@beautifulrevery said:

None of Ben's aliens that he can realistically use are strong enough to take out Thing. Gwen isn't taking out Thing and neither is Kevin.

Really ultimate way big?

Hmm, forgot about him but is Ben going to go ultimate way big from the start? He'll probably go for a favorite like Humongasaur, Swampfire or Big Chill.

@beautifulrevery said:

@AllStarSuperman said:

@beautifulrevery said:

None of Ben's aliens that he can realistically use are strong enough to take out Thing. Gwen isn't taking out Thing and neither is Kevin.

Really ultimate way big?

Hmm, forgot about him but is Ben going to go ultimate way big from the start? He'll probably go for a favorite like Humongasaur, Swampfire or Big Chill.

so what's thing doing to big chill?

@PrinceAragorn1 said:

@beautifulrevery said:

@AllStarSuperman said:

@beautifulrevery said:

None of Ben's aliens that he can realistically use are strong enough to take out Thing. Gwen isn't taking out Thing and neither is Kevin.

Really ultimate way big?

Hmm, forgot about him but is Ben going to go ultimate way big from the start? He'll probably go for a favorite like Humongasaur, Swampfire or Big Chill.

so what's thing doing to big chill?

What is big chill doing to thing? Freezing him? He'll break free. All he needs is to be tagged once and he's finished. Ben doesn't stay intangible the entire time. I loved the Ben 10 series and I'm happy to see it being put into so many battles but I can't see his team taking the FF.

Ben should win. Echo Echo clones. Turn them all into way big, chuch the F4 into orbit. Win via bfr. or turn them into ghost freak and make them kill each other. any nuber of ways this could end really. And with Gwen's anodite powers, it's a stomp in Ben's favor.

@beautifulrevery: Big chill can at least freeze the thing. Thing can't do anything at all. Nor is Mr. Fantastic.. Gwen can handle Iw and kevin absorbs Johnny :)

Ben 10

@AllStarSuperman said:

@beautifulrevery said:

None of Ben's aliens that he can realistically use are strong enough to take out Thing. Gwen isn't taking out Thing and neither is Kevin.

Really ultimate way big?

LOL WHAT?

Humongasour is above class 100 easily, Ultimate Humongasour can take down every one cept sue

also the following

Clock Work

Upgrade

Ghost Freak

Big Chill

Way Big

Swamp Fire

Ultimate Echo Echo

ect,

PLEASE STOP UNDERRATING non comic book characters.

@beautifulrevery said:

@AllStarSuperman said:

@beautifulrevery said:

None of Ben's aliens that he can realistically use are strong enough to take out Thing. Gwen isn't taking out Thing and neither is Kevin.

Really ultimate way big?

Hmm, forgot about him but is Ben going to go ultimate way big from the start? He'll probably go for a favorite like Humongasaur, Swampfire or Big Chill.

No but he won't need to Gwen could by him some time

@beautifulrevery said:

@PrinceAragorn1 said:

@beautifulrevery said:

@AllStarSuperman said:

@beautifulrevery said:

None of Ben's aliens that he can realistically use are strong enough to take out Thing. Gwen isn't taking out Thing and neither is Kevin.

Really ultimate way big?

Hmm, forgot about him but is Ben going to go ultimate way big from the start? He'll probably go for a favorite like Humongasaur, Swampfire or Big Chill.

so what's thing doing to big chill?

What is big chill doing to thing? Freezing him? He'll break free. All he needs is to be tagged once and he's finished. Ben doesn't stay intangible the entire time. I loved the Ben 10 series and I'm happy to see it being put into so many battles but I can't see his team taking the FF.

Big chill could go big chill and freeze things insides. Now that I think about it ultimate big chill could solo steals johnny's heat make reed crumble. He might not be able to take invisible woman though

SO WHAT STOPS SUSAN STORM FROM JUST PUTTING A BUBBLE IN EACH OF THEIR HEADS AND THEN MAKING LOVE WITH RICHARDS AFTERWARDS?

@OmgOmgWtfWtf: Easy. Because it wouldn't do squat to a bunch of them:

Swampfire

Upgrade

Goop

Ghostfreak

Big Chill

NRG

Amphibian

Wildvine

Diamondhead

Chromastone

and I probably missed some too.

@UltimateHero0406 said:

@OmgOmgWtfWtf: Easy. It wouldn't do squat to a bunch of them:

Swampfire

Upgrade

Goop

Ghostfreak

Big Chill

NRG

and I probably missed some too.

This ^

not to mention Gwen can possibly solo in her true anodite form, she can make force fields too!

@UltimateHero0406: you're implying that Ben has time to actually activate his forms. Last time I remember he has to physically turn his watch to the alien he wants. Susan Storm's powers work by thought alone. Since this is morals off, she will in fact just place bubbles in their heads until it explodes. Ben wouldn't have the luxury of activating any of his aliens before he is dead.

Sue makes a bubble around Ben's watch so he can't go alien. While the rest of the FF take on the gang.

@Hondo_: She's not soloing Sue in her anodite form. She has yet to even master it's abilities. She also has to change into her anodite form, she doesn't automatically start in it.

@OmgOmgWtfWtf: Ok, you got me. But even if they defeat Ben and Kevin, they must still deal with Gwen. And I doubt they have what it takes to defeat an anodite. And since this is bloodlusted she will turn into this form immediately.

@OmgOmgWtfWtf:

Didn't you see the new episode in omniverse? she instantly turned into an anodite to fight an alien princess

@jwalser3: He can activate by thought -___-, what have you seen only the original series?

@Hondo_: I still don't see how she will get out of Sue's forcefield. If she just placed one around her. She has contained beings much more powerful than Gwen's anodite form. Also she can't use all the abilities an anodite possesses, she hasn't had the time to master it. If she goes all out, she is going to forget she is.

Also Ben can't change on just thought alone, he could at some points but not as of currently. He still needs to physically smack his watch to get the aliens he wants.

@OmgOmgWtfWtf:Gwen is more experienced unlike her alien force counterpart, ever since the group split up she's been more powerful she can put a force field in IW's head if she wanted too or just put up her own force field around her allies

I also recall Gwen having quicker reaction time than IW.

@OmgOmgWtfWtf said:

SO WHAT STOPS SUSAN STORM FROM JUST PUTTING A BUBBLE IN EACH OF THEIR HEADS AND THEN MAKING LOVE WITH RICHARDS AFTERWARDS?

Simple answer gwen

@OmgOmgWtfWtf: I doesnt matter if she forgets, all that matters here is the win and if they mess with her while she is in Anodite form, she would probably teleport them into space or something. And she has an advantage due to being an energy being.

@Hondo_ said:

@OmgOmgWtfWtf:Gwen is more experienced unlike her alien force counterpart, ever since the group split up she's been more powerful she can put a force field in IW's head if she wanted too or just put up her own force field around her allies

I also recall Gwen having quicker reaction time than IW.

Right

Yea Im going to go with Ben 10... everything the FF can do essentially Ben 10 and gang can do and more.

Ben could take down all of them with many of his alien forms..

Echo, echo probably would be all that he would need to take them all out.. if not that he has Big Chill, or ghost freak in which he would be able to phase easily through sue's shield....

Gwen could easily take out the team as well.. she is this groups counter to Sue, yet she also possesses telepathy, telekinesis, teleportation, and magic spells. And this is all without her being in anodite form. If she goes there this is a major overkill for Team Ben 10.

This would be a good battle but team Ben 10 would come out on top!

@Hondo_: She does not have faster reaction time than Susan Storm. Susan has been doing this much longer than Gwen has. She has been able to catch Jean Grey in her forcefield (a person who's powers work at the speed of thought), stop a lightning strike from Ragnarok, able to place a force field to surround the FF before they got sucked into a dimensional wormhole, perform multiple actions with her forcefields at once. Susan Storm has trained her powers to be a reflex.

Also Susan Storm powers stop other people's powers from affecting anything protected by her shields. It has stopped Psi-Lord (a grown up version of Franklin Richard from reading her mind), stopped Jean Grey from using her telepathy and telekinesis while inside, also interrupting all the things she was doing before the force field went up.

@UltimateHero0406: She has yet to master those abilities. So I don't see how she is going to do any of those. Also Susan Storm has contained beings more powerful than Gwen. Hyperstorm is one good example of this.

@OmgOmgWtfWtf: She has teleported the gang many times before for escape in a near instant and she has gotten stronger since the days of old so I see no reason why she couldn't use that power now. Plus her anodite powers pretty much boost her base strength.