#1 Posted by MasterAction (632 posts) - - Show Bio

4 vs 4 battle Morals off and a fight to the death Takes place in a completely empty Picadilly Circus (it is international after all!) No prep, random encounter

Excalibur: Shadowcat, Nightcrawler, Captain Britain and Rachel Summers (no Phoenix Force)

Justice League International: Blue Beetle, Dr Fate, Hawkman and Hawkwoman

#2 Posted by 18hunt (2891 posts) - - Show Bio

Isnt it obvious

#3 Posted by Shawnbaby (10482 posts) - - Show Bio

From what I know about Blue Beetle...with Morals off...he could potentially solo.

#4 Posted by MasterAction (632 posts) - - Show Bio

@18hunt said:

Isnt it obvious

Not to me :/ who makes this an unfair fight?

#5 Posted by I_am_Warlock (289 posts) - - Show Bio

@Shawnbaby said:

From what I know about Blue Beetle...with Morals off...he could potentially solo.

Captain Britain , in current level is actually pretty beastly for Blue Beetle to solo. They have to entire depower him or do something about that character he is a little too powerful at them moment.

#6 Posted by Shawnbaby (10482 posts) - - Show Bio

@I_am_Warlock said:

@Shawnbaby said:

From what I know about Blue Beetle...with Morals off...he could potentially solo.

Captain Britain , in current level is actually pretty beastly for Blue Beetle to solo. They have to entire depower him or do something about that character he is a little too powerful at them moment.

Oh no doubt Brian is a beast..But the Blue Beetle apparently has the ability to hurt the Spectre.

#7 Posted by Sovereign91001 (4025 posts) - - Show Bio

II think an argument for Fate soloing could be made.

#8 Posted by I_am_Warlock (289 posts) - - Show Bio

@Shawnbaby said:

Oh no doubt Brian is a beast..But the Blue Beetle apparently has the ability to hurt the Spectre.

They have only fought once in Post Crisis continuity, and the fight was Blue Beetle hitting spectre without him suffering any sort of damage and Spectre shutting the armor off and leaving.

I am a huge spectre fan and have virtually every appearance of Spectre with me (post crisis) and yeah Blue Beetle hasnt done jack to suggest he can hurt or do anything to Spectre.

People often quote the first scan out of context, not including what happened immediately after that.

#9 Posted by Shawnbaby (10482 posts) - - Show Bio

@I_am_Warlock said:

@Shawnbaby said:

Oh no doubt Brian is a beast..But the Blue Beetle apparently has the ability to hurt the Spectre.

They have only fought once in Post Crisis continuity, and the fight was Blue Beetle hitting spectre without him suffering any sort of damage and Spectre shutting the armor off and leaving.

I am a huge spectre fan and have virtually every appearance of Spectre with me (post crisis) and yeah Blue Beetle hasnt done jack to suggest he can hurt or do anything to Spectre.

People often quote the first scan out of context, not including what happened immediately after that.

Well, to be fair...Brian went up against the Phoenix and didn't really accomplish much more than slowing it down a bit.

#10 Posted by I_am_Warlock (289 posts) - - Show Bio

@Shawnbaby said:

Well, to be fair...Brian went up against the Phoenix and didn't really accomplish much more than slowing it down a bit.

Well Phoenix should still be much more powerful than Brian, it was the whole Phoenix Force as opposed to an avatar.

Brian isnt anywhere close to as powerful as Spectre or Phoenix Force as a whole, thats now what i am getting at. He is just too powerful for Blue Beetle to solo, who is likely still below GL. Blue Beetle actually lost the first fight with GL, although he had just got the suit so we can give him benefit of the doubt, but still doesnt really have feat to show he is any better.