Every Avenger/Xman vs Every Justice League/Society Member

The battle is what the title suggest. Which two popular teams have had the most powerful roster of all. I did two because many of them members are inchangeable anyway.

Since I don't feel like hearing Spectre solos, he isn't apart of this fight. Give reasons and characters and try to take account all of the other variables. But other than him...Every character ever included.

Bump

Phantom Stranger, Ion and Parallax have a f**king field day.

@evil_incarnate: Dark Phoenix, White Phoenix of tge Crown, Scarlet Witch, OF/Rune King Thor say hello

The universe explodes

Batman solos.. /thread

Starbrand and White Phoenix of the Crown nuff said.

@digitalshooter9: Chew force bats isnt beating loeb force rulk

Impossible to debate, too many universal/multiversal characters on both teams.

We get to have more than one version? I guess I can add both versions of Ion, Pre Crisis Superman and Supergirl, Lzyxm Ltpkz, which is a 5th dimension version of Superman so think Mr. Mxy and Superman combined, all versions of Johnny Thunderbolt whom is also from the 5th dimension, Starheart Alan Scott, pre crisis Dr. Fate, Monarch, etc.

@evil_incarnate: all members that I once mentioned were in the actual xmen or avengers at one point in time

so no 5th dimension but sure to everyone else

All of them were.

@evil_incarnate: learn something new every day

Johnny Thunderbolt laughs and turns them all to babies.

Do the ultimates count?

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@dagmar_merrill: sure

Batman solos. Is this even allowed?

WCOTP or HoM Wanda solos or death seed sentry

@johnfrank120: I am completely within the bondaries of the rules as far as I know

@johnfrank120: I mean, it's like over 100+ heroes.

@comicsrulebutdbzdoes2: You think DSS solos? LOL.

Franklin Richards.

@johnfrank120: eventually yes name me one person who could possibly bring him down

@comicsrulebutdbzdoes2: Kyle ION

@johnfrank120: yup him and parralax and maybe classic fate are the only arguable ones

@comicsrulebutdbzdoes2: Phantom Stranger can also do it, and Wally could BFR, along with many flashes, full starheart Alan, etc.

DC stands no choice whatsoever. Huge mismatch. Epic spite.

@comicsrulebutdbzdoes2: @hulkage: @comicsrulebutdbzdoes2: @leo-343: @sophisticated_ignorance: Marvel isn't winning this. Just naming a few powerful members

Most powerful Justice League members and ex-members

• Phantom Stranger
• Firestrom (Ronnie Raymon/Professor Stain): Can manipulate organic and inorganic matter.
• Major Disaster
• Despero (was a member in JL Task Force)
• Triumph
• Doctor Light (Kymio Hoshi)
• John Stewart
• Kyle Rayner
• Hal Jordan
• Guy Gardner
• G'nort
• Wally West
• Barry Allen
• Captain Atom
• Blue Superman

Justice Society Mebers and ex-Members

• Jakeem Thunder and Thunderbolt (a 5th dimensional imp)
• Hourman (one Million): can manipulate/bend time-space at will.
• Starman (Tom Kallor)
• Obsidian
• Alan Scott
• KC Superman
• Magog
• Liberty Belle (Jesse Quick)
• Damage: he created the Big Bang during Zero Hour
• Doctor Fate (Hector Hall)
• Doctor Fate (Kent Nelson)
• Jay Garrick
• Jade: Alan Scott's daughter which is imbued with a portion of the Starheart.
• Captain Marvel (now Shazam)
• Black Adam

Just pointing that exist 4 characters capable to tap with the Speedforce.

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@matchesmalone21: Now just a few who can handle them:

Adult Franklin Richards, Legion, HOM Wanda, MJJ, WCOTP Phoenix; that's more than enough for a stomp.

So much reality warpers on each sides give me headaches.

I belive you lack knowledge about Dc charcters...that's not a stomp for Marvel. Read more about them and .then we talk....

If we are using most powerful version and reality warpers:.

• Parallax (Hal Jordan)
• Ion (Kyle Rayner)
• Hourman (Matthew Tyler)
• Thunderbolt
• Ka-El (One Million)
• Alan Scott (with Starheart)
• Mister Miracle (with Anti-Life Equation)

@matchesmalone21: none of them are multiversal level though, WCOTP could possibly solo

fixed. Ion, Parallax, and PS can remain seated and enjoy the smackdown.

@comicsrulebutdbzdoes2: Zero Hour Parallax is multiversal

@zhurong: no he ain't...... He hasn't done anything to proves he's multiversal, he's universal

@matchesmalone21: I am not lacking knowledge however I believe you are becuase MJJ alone is multiversal+, which is enough to solo.

All the others I listed are all universal+.

@comicsrulebutdbzdoes2: He is on par with Unbound Spectre (multiversal) and it had been implied he is above White Phoenix.

@matchesmalone21: Rune King Thor, Odin Force Thor, MJJ, Legion, Chaos War Herc, AFR, Trion/8th Day Juggs, Statbrand, Dark Pheonix, Pheonix , WPOTC, Hope Summers.....shall I continue?

@zhurong: how is it implied he's above White pheonix when they're not even in same company and anyway his best feat is creating the universe that dosent prove he's multiversal

@zhurong: He was trying to rewrie the universe...plus Hercules already did what he attempted to do

Saying marvel phoneix is just to strong. She would wipe the floor with most of them.

@hulkage: @comicsrulebutdbzdoes2: He actually beat the Spectre too.

white phoenix of the crown, HOM scarlet witch, CW hercules

these are the multiversal level characters... if these can be beat.. then this team can fall.. otherwise it won't fall

can phantom stranger, ion, parallax stop them?

@zhurong: Not that impressive seeing as the list of those who have beat spectre is quite large

@comicsrulebutdbzdoes2: Alan Scott in full effect of the starheart would also bring him down.