etrigan vs martain manhunter

" @Decoy Elite:  No I am saying that Demons possess physical bodies. Sometimes those bodies change form. But demons need a physical body to possess. "

" @drkhwk2001 said:

" @Decoy Elite:  No I am saying that Demons possess physical bodies. Sometimes those bodies change form. But demons need a physical body to possess. "

Etrigan has a body though, so this whole point is moot(and possibly incorrect, but I don't know enough about DC Demons to be sure) "

" @Methos said:

" hold on...  if it's the MM still petrified of fire as his weakness then Etrigan curbstomps  if not, then MM wins  M "

He can be hurt by fire, but it has to be emotional fire.(like the fire an arsonist causes) "

" @Decoy Elite said:

" @drkhwk2001 said:

" @Decoy Elite:  No I am saying that Demons possess physical bodies. Sometimes those bodies change form. But demons need a physical body to possess. "

Etrigan has a body though, so this whole point is moot(and possibly incorrect, but I don't know enough about DC Demons to be sure) "

The point I was making was since demons are intangible even when possessing a physical body they can see each other. Why wouldn't Etrigan be able to see MM? "

" @Decoy Elite said:

" @Methos said:

" hold on...  if it's the MM still petrified of fire as his weakness then Etrigan curbstomps  if not, then MM wins  M "

He can be hurt by fire, but it has to be emotional fire.(like the fire an arsonist causes) "

I think that retconned that retcon away "

" @Emperor Gonzo Noir said:

" @Decoy Elite said:

" @Methos said:

" hold on...  if it's the MM still petrified of fire as his weakness then Etrigan curbstomps  if not, then MM wins  M "

He can be hurt by fire, but it has to be emotional fire.(like the fire an arsonist causes) "

I think that retconned that retcon away "

What makes you say that? MM get hurt by normal fire recently? "

" @drkhwk2001 said:

" @Decoy Elite said:

" @drkhwk2001 said:

" @Decoy Elite:  No I am saying that Demons possess physical bodies. Sometimes those bodies change form. But demons need a physical body to possess. "

Etrigan has a body though, so this whole point is moot(and possibly incorrect, but I don't know enough about DC Demons to be sure) "

The point I was making was since demons are intangible even when possessing a physical body they can see each other. Why wouldn't Etrigan be able to see MM? "

What are you talking about? MM's invisibility? It functions in a completely different way then a Demons, so I don't think those two things are comparable. "

" @Decoy Elite said:

" @Emperor Gonzo Noir said:

" @Decoy Elite said:

" @Methos said:

" hold on...  if it's the MM still petrified of fire as his weakness then Etrigan curbstomps  if not, then MM wins  M "

He can be hurt by fire, but it has to be emotional fire.(like the fire an arsonist causes) "

I think that retconned that retcon away "

What makes you say that? MM get hurt by normal fire recently? "

not recently recently, but since Joe Kelly introduced that element to his fire weakness "

" @Decoy Elite said:

" @drkhwk2001 said:

" @Decoy Elite said:

" @drkhwk2001 said:

" @Decoy Elite:  No I am saying that Demons possess physical bodies. Sometimes those bodies change form. But demons need a physical body to possess. "

Etrigan has a body though, so this whole point is moot(and possibly incorrect, but I don't know enough about DC Demons to be sure) "

The point I was making was since demons are intangible even when possessing a physical body they can see each other. Why wouldn't Etrigan be able to see MM? "

What are you talking about? MM's invisibility? It functions in a completely different way then a Demons, so I don't think those two things are comparable. "

Excactly MM invisibilty is a physical change and the demon that possesses the physical body of Etrigan is on a mystical/spiritual level wouldn't that trump the physical intangibility? "

" @drkhwk2001 said:

" @Decoy Elite said:

" @drkhwk2001 said:

" @Decoy Elite said:

" @drkhwk2001 said:

" @Decoy Elite:  No I am saying that Demons possess physical bodies. Sometimes those bodies change form. But demons need a physical body to possess. "

Etrigan has a body though, so this whole point is moot(and possibly incorrect, but I don't know enough about DC Demons to be sure) "

The point I was making was since demons are intangible even when possessing a physical body they can see each other. Why wouldn't Etrigan be able to see MM? "

What are you talking about? MM's invisibility? It functions in a completely different way then a Demons, so I don't think those two things are comparable. "

Excactly MM invisibilty is a physical change and the demon that possesses the physical body of Etrigan is on a mystical/spiritual level wouldn't that trump the physical intangibility? "

Intangibility and invisibility are two different things. And I honestly have no idea what you're spouting off about them at this point. "

" @drkhwk2001: When I say spouting off, I mean talking about. I'm not calling you disrespectful, it's just how I talk.  I have not been trying to make fun of you, I'm simply trying to get info on Etrigan from you, I'm sorry if I come across rude. I am not trying to do so. "

" @Decoy Elite said:

" @drkhwk2001: When I say spouting off, I mean talking about. I'm not calling you disrespectful, it's just how I talk.  I have not been trying to make fun of you, I'm simply trying to get info on Etrigan from you, I'm sorry if I come across rude. I am not trying to do so. "

No worries. I understand that intangibilty and invisibilty are two different things. Becoming intangible is a change on a molecular level your physical presence is still there the moleculs are just re arranged. I was siimply stating that Etrigan may be able to still see him due to the fact he operates on a mystycal/spiritual level that transends MM's mere re arrangement of moleculs. "

" @drkhwk2001 said:

" @Decoy Elite said:

" @drkhwk2001: When I say spouting off, I mean talking about. I'm not calling you disrespectful, it's just how I talk.  I have not been trying to make fun of you, I'm simply trying to get info on Etrigan from you, I'm sorry if I come across rude. I am not trying to do so. "

No worries. I understand that intangibilty and invisibilty are two different things. Becoming intangible is a change on a molecular level your physical presence is still there the moleculs are just re arranged. I was siimply stating that Etrigan may be able to still see him due to the fact he operates on a mystycal/spiritual level that transends MM's mere re arrangement of moleculs. "

Actually invisibility mean you can't be seen. Intangibility means you can't be hit. Magic does not always trump non magic, so I wouldn't say Etrigan can hit MM when he's intangible. Now, if you could refer me to an instance when Etrigan has hit an intangible opponent, I might be swayed to agree. "

" @Decoy Elite said:

" @drkhwk2001 said:

" @Decoy Elite said:

" @drkhwk2001: When I say spouting off, I mean talking about. I'm not calling you disrespectful, it's just how I talk.  I have not been trying to make fun of you, I'm simply trying to get info on Etrigan from you, I'm sorry if I come across rude. I am not trying to do so. "

No worries. I understand that intangibilty and invisibilty are two different things. Becoming intangible is a change on a molecular level your physical presence is still there the moleculs are just re arranged. I was siimply stating that Etrigan may be able to still see him due to the fact he operates on a mystycal/spiritual level that transends MM's mere re arrangement of moleculs. "

Actually invisibility mean you can't be seen. Intangibility means you can't be hit. Magic does not always trump non magic, so I wouldn't say Etrigan can hit MM when he's intangible. Now, if you could refer me to an instance when Etrigan has hit an intangible opponent, I might be swayed to agree. "

I am unable to do that, so si,r for now I tip my hat to you I conceed this debate to you but I will do some research and get back to you with some more viable evidence to support my argument and if I fail to do so I will conceed this debate. "

" ok guys etrigan can freeze him to "

" ok guys etrigan can freeze him to "

" @drkhwk2001 said:

" @Decoy Elite said:

" @drkhwk2001 said:

" @Decoy Elite said:

" @drkhwk2001: When I say spouting off, I mean talking about. I'm not calling you disrespectful, it's just how I talk.  I have not been trying to make fun of you, I'm simply trying to get info on Etrigan from you, I'm sorry if I come across rude. I am not trying to do so. "

No worries. I understand that intangibilty and invisibilty are two different things. Becoming intangible is a change on a molecular level your physical presence is still there the moleculs are just re arranged. I was siimply stating that Etrigan may be able to still see him due to the fact he operates on a mystycal/spiritual level that transends MM's mere re arrangement of moleculs. "

Actually invisibility mean you can't be seen. Intangibility means you can't be hit. Magic does not always trump non magic, so I wouldn't say Etrigan can hit MM when he's intangible. Now, if you could refer me to an instance when Etrigan has hit an intangible opponent, I might be swayed to agree. "

I am unable to do that, so si,r for now I tip my hat to you I conceed this debate to you but I will do some research and get back to you with some more viable evidence to support my argument and if I fail to do so I will conceed this debate. "

No need to concede, if you don't have the info now I'll be glad to wait for you to obtain it. If you can't then, it's fine. At least you defended Etrigan rather well. "

" he did it the same episode they fought lol "

" has a healing factor that lets him regenerate ig parts of his body "

" @Silver2467: o yea srry "

LOL at some of the posts in this thread.  MM intangibility has worked on several magical attacks in the past, so it would be safe to say Etrigan's hellfire will not work, and that is if he could hit him with it, but thanks to MM speed and invisibility that is out of the question, there is also the fact that MM knows Etrigan and his weakness to iron, he could simply change his molecular composition, completely into iron and just with a couple of attacks the fight would be over.  Etrigan is a powerhouse in direct combat, but the abilities the Martian has are just a little too much for Etrigan to handle, Etrigan has a lot of magical endowed abilities but his bread and butter are basically his super strength and Hellfire and that simply won't do against the Martian, taking into account all of his powers and abilities..

" LOL at some of the posts in this thread.  MM intangibility has worked on several magical attacks in the past, so it would be safe to say Etrigan's hellfire will not work, and that is if he could hit him with it, but thanks to MM speed and invisibility that is out of the question, there is also the fact that MM knows Etrigan and his weakness to iron, he could simply change his molecular composition, completely into iron and just with a couple of attacks the fight would be over.  Etrigan is a powerhouse in direct combat, but the abilities the Martian has are just a little too much for Etrigan to handle, Etrigan has a lot of magical endowed abilities but his bread and butter are basically his super strength and Hellfire and that simply won't do against the Martian, taking into account all of his powers and abilities.. "

" @Fantasma Ghost said:

" LOL at some of the posts in this thread.  MM intangibility has worked on several magical attacks in the past, so it would be safe to say Etrigan's hellfire will not work, and that is if he could hit him with it, but thanks to MM speed and invisibility that is out of the question, there is also the fact that MM knows Etrigan and his weakness to iron, he could simply change his molecular composition, completely into iron and just with a couple of attacks the fight would be over.  Etrigan is a powerhouse in direct combat, but the abilities the Martian has are just a little too much for Etrigan to handle, Etrigan has a lot of magical endowed abilities but his bread and butter are basically his super strength and Hellfire and that simply won't do against the Martian, taking into account all of his powers and abilities.. "

Thanks for your input, I now know a more than I did previous. "