Etrigan Vs. Ghost Rider

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#1  Edited By Doctor Dare

VERSUS

Ghost Rider takes it IMO.

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#2  Edited By Doctor Dare

lordraiden says:

"Ya think so?"

Yeah, Etrigan could'nt even beat Green Arrow. Ghost Rider can tell his Bike to run over Etrigan and what about the "Penace Stare"?

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#3  Edited By lordraiden

Ya think so?

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#4  Edited By Nighthunter

A never ending battle

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#5  Edited By Akira Overdrive

Etrigan is like Lobo,with hellfire and magic.

Heck,Jason Blood can beat Ghost Rider..

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#6  Edited By lordraiden

Doctor Dare says:

"lordraiden says:
"Ya think so?"
Yeah, Etrigan could'nt even beat Green Arrow. Ghost Rider can tell his Bike to run over Etrigan and what about the "Penace Stare"?"
Etrigan has taken on the likes of Lobo and superman, not to mention has enough cunning and power to take over hell in his own series!
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#7  Edited By King_Saturn

I think Etrigan can take GR but the Penance Stare maybe a problem.

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#8  Edited By The 10,000

Etrigan

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#9  Edited By Methos

Ghost Rider has power true

But against Etrigan he is still new...

and Ghost Rider will soon realize his options are few...

M

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#10  Edited By lordraiden

Methos says:

"Ghost Rider has power true But against Etrigan he is still new... and Ghost Rider will soon realize his options are few... M"

Whoah! that was very well done, i'm impressed! hats off to ya! Has Etrigan been bonded to ya?

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#11  Edited By Knowsbleed33

Gotta go with the guy who once punched Superman all the way from the earth to the moon.

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#12  Edited By Supreme Cosmic

Blaze go down but then, once safety go off and Zarathos himself emerges, you get a good match. Etrigan vs Zarathos, I'll go with Zarathos

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#13  Edited By Pokergeist

Zarathos in Charge could PS Etrigan into a KO.
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#14  Edited By blackadamFTW

@CadenceV2 said:

Zarathos in Charge could PS Etrigan into a KO.

I doubt the penance stare would do anything to him.

Etrigan should definitely win this. Rather easily actually.

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#15  Edited By sandiego008

Never ending battle ...I don't see one beating the other to be honest.

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#16  Edited By TifaLockhart

@Doctor Dare: Way to lowball Etrigan. Etrigan's pinned Wonder Woman, punched Superman literally to the moon, and he's matched strength with Lobo.

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Depends... If Ghost rider's safety switch is on then etrigan has more chance of beating him but if the switch is off then this is a godstomp for ghost rider. "he is godlike" like dr strange said in WWH.

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#18  Edited By Road_Rash

Ghost Rider

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#19  Edited By Pokergeist
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I dont see why it wouldnt. He has a soul yes? It would affect him. I like to say Flash cant steal Speed Force from Thor but he can. The only people Immune to the PS to any degree is Souless people and those under Zadkeil protection. Thats it.  
 
Also Ghost Rider has Unbreakable chains that no one so far had broke thru, inluding Juggernauat and Hulk. Im not sure how DCs Hellfire works but GRs Hellfire burns the Soul as well the Flesh. Also Hellfire can be made into whatever Blaze/Ketch wish to make it into. Its alot like Spawn Necro Plasma. Limited by the imagination. 
 
Zarathos is also Physicaly immune to harm. So all of Etrigans strength means nothing. Only Magic/Energy affect Ghost Rider. Being a Spirit of Vengance hes Immortal tho. Best you can do is BFR but Ghost Ridr can just as easily BFR Etrigan.
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Zarathos would win, but if Blaze or Alejandro are in control then Etrigan takes this.

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#21  Edited By ThatThorFan

I say stalemate! Hard to choose.

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#22  Edited By jeanroygrant

Ghost Rider.

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#23  Edited By Malevolent1

I couldn't imagine any version of Ghost Rider taking out Etrigan except the Zadkiel powered Ghost Rider, whom Stephen Strange pegged as one guy who could've taken out WW Hulk.

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#24  Edited By Ferro Vida
@Malevolent1 said:

I couldn't imagine any version of Ghost Rider taking out Etrigan except the Zadkiel powered Ghost Rider, whom Stephen Strange pegged as one guy who could've taken out WW Hulk.

I think you mean Zarathos, not Zadkiel.
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#25  Edited By Pokergeist
@Ferro Vida said:


                    @Malevolent1 said:

I couldn't imagine any version of Ghost Rider taking out Etrigan except the Zadkiel powered Ghost Rider, whom Stephen Strange pegged as one guy who could've taken out WW Hulk.


I think you mean Zarathos, not Zadkiel.

                   

               

Who knows anymore who the Spirit is anymore.
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#26  Edited By Ferro Vida
@CadenceV2: Maybe they retconned it now. But in the comic he mentioned it was Zarathos. 
 
But then again, that was before Ghost Rider was an Angel.
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#27  Edited By Pokergeist
@Ferro Vida said:


                    @CadenceV2: Maybe they retconned it now. But in the comic he mentioned it was Zarathos.  But then again, that was before Ghost Rider was an Angel.

                   

               

Before that it was a Nobel Kale Ancestor, before that Zarathos was a Demon enemy of Mephisto.... WTF....
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#28  Edited By Needlebay

Etrigan. Overall more powerful and can tap into forces beyinf GR.

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#29  Edited By XiiX

Etrigan. Not only(at least) as great in raw-power, but is also rather learned in magic.

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#30  Edited By jeanroygrant

GR.

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#31  Edited By Needlebay

How does GR win?

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#32  Edited By Zoom
Etrigan. 
 
Ghost Rider is easily hurt by Hellfire (which is stupid but true).  Etrigan breathes hellfire. 
 
I don't know why people were saying Zarathos is part of Ghost Rider or that Etrigan should be immune to PS or that Ghost Rider has unbreakable chains.  None of that is true.
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#33  Edited By Ferro Vida

The force of your comment reached my inbox, Zoom.

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#34  Edited By ghostrider2

GR he won't lose to either Etrigan or Lobo and if Zarathos is in control he wins this with ease i can say.

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#35  Edited By Needlebay

If he can be Zarathos, Etrigan can tap into the Stonehenge. With the full power of Stonehenge at his command, he was taking not only the Sentinels of Magic, but Martian Manhunter AND Phantom Stranger simultaneously. And they couldn't stop him.

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#36  Edited By Zoom

Evidence of Ghost Rider being able to withstand hellfire attacks? 
 
And why is Zarathos relevant?  He's been dead for decades.

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#37  Edited By cuddles666

@Akira Overdrive said:

Etrigan is like Lobo,with hellfire and magic.

Heck,Jason Blood can beat Ghost Rider..

^This.

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#38  Edited By Joygirl

I will go with Etrigan. I don't see Penance Stare or hellfire working on an actual demon -- particularly not one as powerful as Etrigan, who can give the devil a run for his money and has on several occasions. In RiH he was directly compared to Neron, and in Demon Knights he was managing to make things tricky for Lucifer.

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#39  Edited By ghost_rider1
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Evidence of Ghost Rider being able to withstand hellfire attacks? 
 
And why is Zarathos relevant?  He's been dead for decades.
Ur very ignorant of ghost rider. There are two power levels of ghost rider....the human host(Johnny Blaze) which limits the full powers of ghost rider. And then there's the spirit of vengeance(Zarathos) who is exponentially stronger and is able to use its full power. Zarathos is the spirit of vengeance that is bonded to Johnny Blaze which is ghost rider.
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#40  Edited By Joygirl

@ghost_rider1: I hope you realize that the instant you say 'ur', all credibility goes out the window, no matter how well-thought your post is.

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#41  Edited By ghost_rider1
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@ghost_rider1: I hope you realize that the instant you say 'ur', all credibility goes out the window, no matter how well-thought your post is.

Well if that's how u feel. That how I spell my ur because I hate spelling out the whole word. I keep my comments short. I don't care whether all my credibility goes out the window. I made my point and u understand what I'm saying.....so that's all that matters to me
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#42  Edited By Zoom
@ghost_rider1 said:
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Evidence of Ghost Rider being able to withstand hellfire attacks? 
 
And why is Zarathos relevant?  He's been dead for decades.
Ur very ignorant of ghost rider. There are two power levels of ghost rider....the human host(Johnny Blaze) which limits the full powers of ghost rider. And then there's the spirit of vengeance(Zarathos) who is exponentially stronger and is able to use its full power. Zarathos is the spirit of vengeance that is bonded to Johnny Blaze which is ghost rider.
Grammar aside, you are incorrect. 
 
Zarathos and Blaze were separated at the end of Ghost Rider Vol 1, probably before you were born. 
 
Zarathos returned in the 90s during the "Siege of Darkness" crossover, which took place during Ghost Rider Vol 2.  At the end of the crossover, the Midnight Sons killed him and turned him to stone. 
 
Blaze was later bonded to the spirit of vengeance, apparently an angel.  This is a totally different entity than Zarathos, who I don't believe was even mentioned in Ghost Rider Vol 3. 
 
Somehow, ignorant people on comic forums started calling the spirit of vengeance "Zarathos" but they have never been the same character.
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#43  Edited By ghost_rider1
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Evidence of Ghost Rider being able to withstand hellfire attacks? 
 
And why is Zarathos relevant?  He's been dead for decades.
Ur very ignorant of ghost rider. There are two power levels of ghost rider....the human host(Johnny Blaze) which limits the full powers of ghost rider. And then there's the spirit of vengeance(Zarathos) who is exponentially stronger and is able to use its full power. Zarathos is the spirit of vengeance that is bonded to Johnny Blaze which is ghost rider.
Grammar aside, you are incorrect. 
 
Zarathos and Blaze were separated at the end of Ghost Rider Vol 1, probably before you were born. 
 
Zarathos returned in the 90s during the "Siege of Darkness" crossover, which took place during Ghost Rider Vol 2.  At the end of the crossover, the Midnight Sons killed him and turned him to stone. 
 
Blaze was later bonded to the spirit of vengeance, apparently an angel.  This is a totally different entity than Zarathos, who I don't believe was even mentioned in Ghost Rider Vol 3. 
 
Somehow, ignorant people on comic forums started calling the spirit of vengeance "Zarathos" but they have never been the same character.
The spirit of vengeance is zarathos. I explained this to someone before but it takes too much explaining. I don't feel like typing that much again. And I dnt have bad grammar....I do that to shorten my comments
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#44  Edited By GrandSymbiote94

@CadenceV2 said:

The only people Immune to the PS to any degree is Souless people and those under Zadkeil protection. Thats it.

COUGHVenomCOUGH.

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#45  Edited By dondave

Etrigan ftw

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#46  Edited By Viva_La_Bam

I say etrigan!

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#47  Edited By Pokergeist

@GrandSymbiote94: I remeber it still hurt Venom. Just didnt KO him or put him down with the pain.

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In the end Venom was spanked.

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#48  Edited By GrandSymbiote94

@CadenceV2: I was talking about this:

He still felt pain from the stare. But it didn't do the full damage. That's still a good feat for Venom IMO.

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#49  Edited By Pokergeist

@GrandSymbiote94: It is a good feat. I'm just saying the Penance Stare worked still but not in the full way as it would have a Non Symbiot.

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#50  Edited By Zoom
@ghost_rider1 said:
The spirit of vengeance is zarathos. I explained this to someone before but it takes too much explaining. I don't feel like typing that much again.
It's not.  Zarathos died in the 90s.  He never came back. He's not even mentioned in the entire book we're talking about, here.  The very first post on the thread shows a scan, saying the SoV is an angel.  Zarathos is not an angel. 
 
You are simply mistaken.