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#1 Posted by Doctor Dare (789 posts) - - Show Bio

VERSUS

Ghost Rider takes it IMO.

#2 Posted by Doctor Dare (789 posts) - - Show Bio

lordraiden says:

"Ya think so?"

Yeah, Etrigan could'nt even beat Green Arrow. Ghost Rider can tell his Bike to run over Etrigan and what about the "Penace Stare"?

#3 Posted by lordraiden (7611 posts) - - Show Bio

Ya think so?

#4 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio

A never ending battle

#5 Posted by Akira Overdrive (10120 posts) - - Show Bio

Etrigan is like Lobo,with hellfire and magic.

Heck,Jason Blood can beat Ghost Rider..

#6 Posted by lordraiden (7611 posts) - - Show Bio

Doctor Dare says:

"lordraiden says:
"Ya think so?"
Yeah, Etrigan could'nt even beat Green Arrow. Ghost Rider can tell his Bike to run over Etrigan and what about the "Penace Stare"?"
Etrigan has taken on the likes of Lobo and superman, not to mention has enough cunning and power to take over hell in his own series!
Post Edited:2008-02-10 00:32:29
#7 Posted by King Saturn (225163 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Etrigan can take GR but the Penance Stare maybe a problem.

#8 Posted by The 10,000 (136 posts) - - Show Bio

Etrigan

#9 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

Ghost Rider has power true

But against Etrigan he is still new...

and Ghost Rider will soon realize his options are few...

M

#10 Posted by lordraiden (7611 posts) - - Show Bio

Methos says:

"Ghost Rider has power true But against Etrigan he is still new... and Ghost Rider will soon realize his options are few... M"

Whoah! that was very well done, i'm impressed! hats off to ya! Has Etrigan been bonded to ya?

#11 Posted by Knowsbleed33 (628 posts) - - Show Bio

Gotta go with the guy who once punched Superman all the way from the earth to the moon.

#12 Posted by Supreme Cosmic (760 posts) - - Show Bio

Blaze go down but then, once safety go off and Zarathos himself emerges, you get a good match. Etrigan vs Zarathos, I'll go with Zarathos

#13 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

Zarathos in Charge could PS Etrigan into a KO.
#14 Posted by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

@CadenceV2 said:

Zarathos in Charge could PS Etrigan into a KO.

I doubt the penance stare would do anything to him.

Etrigan should definitely win this. Rather easily actually.

#15 Edited by sandiego008 (3280 posts) - - Show Bio

Never ending battle ...I don't see one beating the other to be honest.

#16 Posted by TifaLockhart (14167 posts) - - Show Bio

@Doctor Dare: Way to lowball Etrigan. Etrigan's pinned Wonder Woman, punched Superman literally to the moon, and he's matched strength with Lobo.

#17 Posted by Michael_Demiurgos1995 (20 posts) - - Show Bio

Depends... If Ghost rider's safety switch is on then etrigan has more chance of beating him but if the switch is off then this is a godstomp for ghost rider. "he is godlike" like dr strange said in WWH.

#18 Posted by Road_Rash (51 posts) - - Show Bio

Ghost Rider

#19 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio
@blackadamFTW
I dont see why it wouldnt. He has a soul yes? It would affect him. I like to say Flash cant steal Speed Force from Thor but he can. The only people Immune to the PS to any degree is Souless people and those under Zadkeil protection. Thats it.  
 
Also Ghost Rider has Unbreakable chains that no one so far had broke thru, inluding Juggernauat and Hulk. Im not sure how DCs Hellfire works but GRs Hellfire burns the Soul as well the Flesh. Also Hellfire can be made into whatever Blaze/Ketch wish to make it into. Its alot like Spawn Necro Plasma. Limited by the imagination. 
 
Zarathos is also Physicaly immune to harm. So all of Etrigans strength means nothing. Only Magic/Energy affect Ghost Rider. Being a Spirit of Vengance hes Immortal tho. Best you can do is BFR but Ghost Ridr can just as easily BFR Etrigan.
#20 Posted by Pwok21 (2459 posts) - - Show Bio

Zarathos would win, but if Blaze or Alejandro are in control then Etrigan takes this.

#21 Posted by ThatThorFan (951 posts) - - Show Bio

I say stalemate! Hard to choose.

#22 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

Ghost Rider.

#23 Posted by Malevolent1 (1072 posts) - - Show Bio

I couldn't imagine any version of Ghost Rider taking out Etrigan except the Zadkiel powered Ghost Rider, whom Stephen Strange pegged as one guy who could've taken out WW Hulk.

#24 Posted by Ferro Vida (34678 posts) - - Show Bio
@Malevolent1 said:

I couldn't imagine any version of Ghost Rider taking out Etrigan except the Zadkiel powered Ghost Rider, whom Stephen Strange pegged as one guy who could've taken out WW Hulk.

I think you mean Zarathos, not Zadkiel.
#25 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio
@Ferro Vida said:


                    @Malevolent1 said:

I couldn't imagine any version of Ghost Rider taking out Etrigan except the Zadkiel powered Ghost Rider, whom Stephen Strange pegged as one guy who could've taken out WW Hulk.


I think you mean Zarathos, not Zadkiel.

                   

               

Who knows anymore who the Spirit is anymore.
#26 Posted by Ferro Vida (34678 posts) - - Show Bio
@CadenceV2: Maybe they retconned it now. But in the comic he mentioned it was Zarathos. 
 
But then again, that was before Ghost Rider was an Angel.
#27 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio
@Ferro Vida said:


                    @CadenceV2: Maybe they retconned it now. But in the comic he mentioned it was Zarathos.  But then again, that was before Ghost Rider was an Angel.

                   

               

Before that it was a Nobel Kale Ancestor, before that Zarathos was a Demon enemy of Mephisto.... WTF....
#28 Posted by Needlebay (1967 posts) - - Show Bio

Etrigan. Overall more powerful and can tap into forces beyinf GR.

#29 Posted by XiiX (9474 posts) - - Show Bio

Etrigan. Not only(at least) as great in raw-power, but is also rather learned in magic.

#30 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

GR.

#31 Posted by Needlebay (1967 posts) - - Show Bio

How does GR win?

#32 Posted by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio
Etrigan. 
 
Ghost Rider is easily hurt by Hellfire (which is stupid but true).  Etrigan breathes hellfire. 
 
I don't know why people were saying Zarathos is part of Ghost Rider or that Etrigan should be immune to PS or that Ghost Rider has unbreakable chains.  None of that is true.
#33 Posted by Ferro Vida (34678 posts) - - Show Bio

The force of your comment reached my inbox, Zoom.

#34 Posted by GhostRider2 (3614 posts) - - Show Bio

GR he won't lose to either Etrigan or Lobo and if Zarathos is in control he wins this with ease i can say.

Online
#35 Posted by Needlebay (1967 posts) - - Show Bio

If he can be Zarathos, Etrigan can tap into the Stonehenge. With the full power of Stonehenge at his command, he was taking not only the Sentinels of Magic, but Martian Manhunter AND Phantom Stranger simultaneously. And they couldn't stop him.

#36 Posted by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio

Evidence of Ghost Rider being able to withstand hellfire attacks? 
 
And why is Zarathos relevant?  He's been dead for decades.

#37 Posted by cuddles666 (310 posts) - - Show Bio

@Akira Overdrive said:

Etrigan is like Lobo,with hellfire and magic.

Heck,Jason Blood can beat Ghost Rider..

^This.

#38 Posted by Joygirl (19954 posts) - - Show Bio

I will go with Etrigan. I don't see Penance Stare or hellfire working on an actual demon -- particularly not one as powerful as Etrigan, who can give the devil a run for his money and has on several occasions. In RiH he was directly compared to Neron, and in Demon Knights he was managing to make things tricky for Lucifer.

#39 Posted by ghost_rider1 (3630 posts) - - Show Bio
@Zoom
Evidence of Ghost Rider being able to withstand hellfire attacks? 
 
And why is Zarathos relevant?  He's been dead for decades.
Ur very ignorant of ghost rider. There are two power levels of ghost rider....the human host(Johnny Blaze) which limits the full powers of ghost rider. And then there's the spirit of vengeance(Zarathos) who is exponentially stronger and is able to use its full power. Zarathos is the spirit of vengeance that is bonded to Johnny Blaze which is ghost rider.
#40 Posted by Joygirl (19954 posts) - - Show Bio

@ghost_rider1: I hope you realize that the instant you say 'ur', all credibility goes out the window, no matter how well-thought your post is.

#41 Posted by ghost_rider1 (3630 posts) - - Show Bio
@Joygirl

@ghost_rider1: I hope you realize that the instant you say 'ur', all credibility goes out the window, no matter how well-thought your post is.

Well if that's how u feel. That how I spell my ur because I hate spelling out the whole word. I keep my comments short. I don't care whether all my credibility goes out the window. I made my point and u understand what I'm saying.....so that's all that matters to me
#42 Posted by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio
@ghost_rider1 said:
@Zoom
Evidence of Ghost Rider being able to withstand hellfire attacks? 
 
And why is Zarathos relevant?  He's been dead for decades.
Ur very ignorant of ghost rider. There are two power levels of ghost rider....the human host(Johnny Blaze) which limits the full powers of ghost rider. And then there's the spirit of vengeance(Zarathos) who is exponentially stronger and is able to use its full power. Zarathos is the spirit of vengeance that is bonded to Johnny Blaze which is ghost rider.
Grammar aside, you are incorrect. 
 
Zarathos and Blaze were separated at the end of Ghost Rider Vol 1, probably before you were born. 
 
Zarathos returned in the 90s during the "Siege of Darkness" crossover, which took place during Ghost Rider Vol 2.  At the end of the crossover, the Midnight Sons killed him and turned him to stone. 
 
Blaze was later bonded to the spirit of vengeance, apparently an angel.  This is a totally different entity than Zarathos, who I don't believe was even mentioned in Ghost Rider Vol 3. 
 
Somehow, ignorant people on comic forums started calling the spirit of vengeance "Zarathos" but they have never been the same character.
#43 Posted by ghost_rider1 (3630 posts) - - Show Bio
@Zoom
@ghost_rider1 said:
@Zoom
Evidence of Ghost Rider being able to withstand hellfire attacks? 
 
And why is Zarathos relevant?  He's been dead for decades.
Ur very ignorant of ghost rider. There are two power levels of ghost rider....the human host(Johnny Blaze) which limits the full powers of ghost rider. And then there's the spirit of vengeance(Zarathos) who is exponentially stronger and is able to use its full power. Zarathos is the spirit of vengeance that is bonded to Johnny Blaze which is ghost rider.
Grammar aside, you are incorrect. 
 
Zarathos and Blaze were separated at the end of Ghost Rider Vol 1, probably before you were born. 
 
Zarathos returned in the 90s during the "Siege of Darkness" crossover, which took place during Ghost Rider Vol 2.  At the end of the crossover, the Midnight Sons killed him and turned him to stone. 
 
Blaze was later bonded to the spirit of vengeance, apparently an angel.  This is a totally different entity than Zarathos, who I don't believe was even mentioned in Ghost Rider Vol 3. 
 
Somehow, ignorant people on comic forums started calling the spirit of vengeance "Zarathos" but they have never been the same character.
The spirit of vengeance is zarathos. I explained this to someone before but it takes too much explaining. I don't feel like typing that much again. And I dnt have bad grammar....I do that to shorten my comments
#44 Posted by GrandSymbiote94 (11724 posts) - - Show Bio

@CadenceV2 said:

The only people Immune to the PS to any degree is Souless people and those under Zadkeil protection. Thats it.

COUGHVenomCOUGH.

#45 Posted by dondave (38895 posts) - - Show Bio

Etrigan ftw

#46 Posted by Viva_La_Bam (16 posts) - - Show Bio

I say etrigan!

#47 Edited by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@GrandSymbiote94: I remeber it still hurt Venom. Just didnt KO him or put him down with the pain.

In the end Venom was spanked.

#48 Posted by GrandSymbiote94 (11724 posts) - - Show Bio

@CadenceV2: I was talking about this:

He still felt pain from the stare. But it didn't do the full damage. That's still a good feat for Venom IMO.

#49 Edited by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@GrandSymbiote94: It is a good feat. I'm just saying the Penance Stare worked still but not in the full way as it would have a Non Symbiot.

#50 Posted by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio
@ghost_rider1 said:
The spirit of vengeance is zarathos. I explained this to someone before but it takes too much explaining. I don't feel like typing that much again.
It's not.  Zarathos died in the 90s.  He never came back. He's not even mentioned in the entire book we're talking about, here.  The very first post on the thread shows a scan, saying the SoV is an angel.  Zarathos is not an angel. 
 
You are simply mistaken.