#4
Posted by Tevnoba
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The Celestials are the defenders of their individual universes as they are many copies of the Celestials in the various alternate realities. The Celestial Host can not harm Eternity.
In my opinion I believe the Celestials don't stand much of a chance, the Celestials have a hard time with Galactus who is also a force of nature but Eternity is the presonification of time and space, he is probably only second in power to the Living Tribunal.
For the plain reason that he is eternal and the celestials, are too but, they can be, trapped or stopped, as predicted with the sleeping celestial in the new eternals comic.
"For the plain reason that he is eternal and the celestials, are too but, they can be, trapped or stopped, as predicted with the sleeping celestial in the new eternals comic."
#12
Posted by Alpha
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Theracles said:
"In my opinion I believe the Celestials don't stand much of a chance, the Celestials have a hard time with Galactus who is also a force of nature but Eternity is the presonification of time and space, he is probably only second in power to the Living Tribunal."
"In my opinion I believe the Celestials don't stand much of a chance, the Celestials have a hard time with Galactus who is also a force of nature but Eternity is the presonification of time and space, he is probably only second in power to the Living Tribunal."
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that's like saying galactus, ego, agis and all are powerful enough to match eternity. did you know eternity is the entire marvel universe with legs? the only way they can destroy eternity is by destroying all of the multiuniverses and reailties in the whole comic histories... and THAT INCLUDES WHAT IF comics.
"that's like saying galactus, ego, agis and all are powerful enough to match eternity. did you know eternity is the entire marvel universe with legs? the only way they can destroy eternity is by destroying all of the multiuniverses and reailties in the whole comic histories... and THAT INCLUDES WHAT IF comics."
Galactus is not very weak in comparison to Cosmic Entites, he is extremely powerful, he surpasses Death in power.
"that's like saying galactus, ego, agis and all are powerful enough to match eternity. did you know eternity is the entire marvel universe with legs? the only way they can destroy eternity is by destroying all of the multiuniverses and reailties in the whole comic histories... and THAT INCLUDES WHAT IF comics."
Galactus is not very weak in comparison to Cosmic Entites, he is extremely powerful, he surpasses Death in power."
Galactus does not surpass Death in Power, even if he were at full power.
"that's like saying galactus, ego, agis and all are powerful enough to match eternity. did you know eternity is the entire marvel universe with legs? the only way they can destroy eternity is by destroying all of the multiuniverses and reailties in the whole comic histories... and THAT INCLUDES WHAT IF comics."
Galactus is not very weak in comparison to Cosmic Entites, he is extremely powerful, he surpasses Death in power."
Galactus does not surpass Death in Power, even if he were at full power."
hahahahah are you serious?! Death? Surpassing her?! i needed a good laugh today.
If oblivion wanted to, he could touch galactus and galactus would stop existEgo said:
"that's like saying galactus, ego, agis and all are powerful enough to match eternity. did you know eternity is the entire marvel universe with legs? the only way they can destroy eternity is by destroying all of the multiuniverses and reailties in the whole comic histories... and THAT INCLUDES WHAT IF comics."
Death isn't that powerful, in Marvel.com there were so many posts saying Galactus is only second in power to Eternity, Infinity, Oblivion and Living Tribunal. Death cannot match Galactus is power.
"Death isn't that powerful, in Marvel.com there were so many posts saying Galactus is only second in power to Eternity, Infinity, Oblivion and Living Tribunal. Death cannot match Galactus is power."
hahahah oh man! i needed another good laugh. good one bro. great stuff there.
"No he is not, he is nigh-omnipotent, Death isn't even near omnipotence. Galactus is the most feared being in the cosmos for a reason."
Your on Drugs! Galactus is not nigh-omnipotent. Galactus is the most feared among the mortal races in the universe, but not in comparison to most of the Astral Gods of the Marvel Universe. Eternity/Infinity, Death/Oblivion, Phoenix Force, Goblin Force, Lord Order, Master Chaos, etc . . . are all his superiors (although he does not like to admit it).
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Posted by SeSAW
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Tevnoba said:
"Theracles said:
"No he is not, he is nigh-omnipotent, Death isn't even near omnipotence. Galactus is the most feared being in the cosmos for a reason."
Your on Drugs! Galactus is not nigh-omnipotent. Galactus is the most feared among the mortal races in the universe, but not in comparison to most of the Astral Gods of the Marvel Universe. Eternity/Infinity, Death/Oblivion, Phoenix Force, Goblin Force, Lord Order, Master Chaos, etc . . . are all his superiors (although he does not like to admit it)."
Theracles said:
"No he is not, he is nigh-omnipotent, Death isn't even near omnipotence. Galactus is the most feared being in the cosmos for a reason."
Galactus is on an equal level with most if not all of these beings when he is fully fed. All of them are abstract concepts of the universe they are close to equals PF and GF would be slightly higher. But none of them fear Galactus
Eternity wins this battle he created all of the Celestrials with his meditations. Eternity wins but they could definantly come real close to beating him.
"If oblivion wanted to, he could touch galactus and galactus would stop existEgo said:
"that's like saying galactus, ego, agis and all are powerful enough to match eternity. did you know eternity is the entire marvel universe with legs? the only way they can destroy eternity is by destroying all of the multiuniverses and reailties in the whole comic histories... and THAT INCLUDES WHAT IF comics."
#29
Posted by Alpha
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Theracles said:
"Tevnoba I don't take drugs, I have a no drugs or alchohol policy and Death is not that powerful, Stan Lee said it himself."
I agree with u. How would death have power over something that can't die like Galactus? Even in his so called death he becomes a star. How would death effect Eternity or even the Elders of the Universe for that matter?
"Death isn't that powerful, in Marvel.com there were so many posts saying Galactus is only second in power to Eternity, Infinity, Oblivion and Living Tribunal. Death cannot match Galactus is power."
#31
Posted by Alpha
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Ego said:
"that's like saying galactus, ego, agis and all are powerful enough to match eternity. did you know eternity is the entire marvel universe with legs? the only way they can destroy eternity is by destroying all of the multiuniverses and reailties in the whole comic histories... and THAT INCLUDES WHAT IF comics."
It was stated that Eternity, Galactus and Death are three natural forces of the universe. I don't think it was ever stated if one was greater than the other. If there is one, I would go with Eternity.
I still can't see how death could effect something that can't die.
Death is an bastract entity that represents vegeance in the universe, Eternity represents nescesity and Galactus equity and they are cosmic entities, the most powerful would be Eternity and the weakest would be Death, Death seems more powerful than Galactus because Death almost never participates in the battles that Galactus does and that gives the impression that she is more powerful. Galactus is only second in power to Eternity, Infinity and the Living Tribunal. I don't know about Oblivion.
I think i read somewhere that the keeper of balance in the marvel cosmic hierarchy is far less powerful than the two sides. so Galactus would be less powerful the Eternity and Death, just as the in-betweener is less powerful than lord chaos and master order. i can't guarantee that it's true, but it does make sense.
"I think i read somewhere that the keeper of balance in the marvel cosmic hierarchy is far less powerful than the two sides. so Galactus would be less powerful the Eternity and Death, just as the in-betweener is less powerful than lord chaos and master order. i can't guarantee that it's true, but it does make sense."
"Its a battle between powerful dudes nuff said.... "
Eternity>Celestials. Only a theory, but Celestials were spawned by Eternity as probes or vessels for him to keep tabs on the universes. They are well beneath Eternity. That's why Eternity was the last one to take on Thanos at the end of Infinity Gauntlet No. 5! Everything withing the MU is suppose to be the embodiment of Eternity, I believe.
" Death is an bastract entity that represents vegeance in the universe, Eternity represents nescesity and Galactus equity and they are cosmic entities, the most powerful would be Eternity and the weakest would be Death, Death seems more powerful than Galactus because Death almost never participates in the battles that Galactus does and that gives the impression that she is more powerful. Galactus is only second in power to Eternity, Infinity and the Living Tribunal. I don't know about Oblivion. "
oblivions best feat was when mealstrom was his avatar and was mocking people like galactus and celestials, he even mocked thanos at the time he had the gaunlets
It sort of depends on whether or not you consider Eternity to be the embodiment of just the 616 Universe, or the entire omniverse...and whether we're talking about just one host of Celestials, or all Celestials in the omniverse. But I assume we're talking about one host of Celestials and an avatar of Eternity representing only the 616 Universe.
Eternity's been beaten by pretty wimpy guys with prep (Nightmare comes to mind), and considering that the 5th Host of Celestials stopped the Goblin Entity after it had defeated and absorbed Galactus and then the Phoenix Force, someone could definitely make a case for the Celestials here.
But having said that...I don't think a normal host of Celestials have any chance to beat Eternity without significant prep. Eternity is, classically, just below LT on the abstract hierarchy. His losses are largely due to silly writing and heavy plot injection. To even match him in a standard brawl, you'd need to be some universal reality warper (like Mad Jim Jaspers) or some freak-show who commands the power of an entire universe or more (like Zom, Sise-Neg, Dormammu, Shuma, etc.).
According to their most recent interpretation, the Celestials are not just a race of extremely powerful aliens, they are (along with the Horde) the living tools of the Fulcrum aka TOAA. In the Eternals series by Gaiman, the Fulcrum (presumably the Jack Kirby side of him) decides to make the sleeping Celestial his equal and partner because he ceases to be a mere tool and starts "caring". I believe it means that, would the Fulcrum decide to use his agents to rearrange or destroy Etirnity, yes, they could do it. I must say though, that apart from this precise story it's hard to evaluate the real might of the Celestials. One thing we know for sure is that they have consistently appeared in every main cosmic event as pears to the abstracts of the 616 universe.
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