Eragon Shadeslayer vs The Nazgul

Eragon from the Inheritance series.

Nazgul from LOTR.

Rules:

• Eragon has standard gear, but no Eldunari or Saphira.
• Nazgul have standard gear.
• Brisingr can hurt the Nazgul.
• No use us Death Words for Eragon.
• Nazgul have full knowledge of Eragon, but Eragon has no knowledge of them.
• Morals on, but determined to win.
• Fight takes place at Dol Guldur around 6 p.m.
• Start 30 feet apart.
• Novel and movie feats allowed for Nazgul.

Round 1

• vs 5 Nazgul

Round 2

• vs remaining 4 Nazgul with no rest after first Round

Round 3

• vs Witch King.
• No rest from the previous round.

Respect thread for Eragon:

http://www.comicvine.com/profile/thevivas/blog/eragon-shadeslayer-respect-thread-completed-4-15-1/103365/

@leo-343: How difficult would it be though? Are the Nazgul a good opponent?

Clears but with incredible difficulty

@leo-343: Would it make it more interesting if I didn't give any rest between Rounds 2 and 3?

True....alright, changing OP now. Lol

Was this answer for the old OP or the new one? (new one has no rest between rounds)

Oooo this isnso hard for me. I love both these book series so much, i have a question, is this the witch king from the books who held his own against Gandalf? If so i think the nine take this

@no_one_expects_the_silver_surf: Witch King gets his feats from both the books and the movie.

@thevivas: witch king died to one loser, he sucks

@spider-manwins: No downplaying in this thread. Lol

@thevivas: The new one, that is the reason he has difficulty, he is spending his strength as mana so with rest i dont think he would have trouble at all. This way it is a tight fight once he gets to the round 3 but i think he could pull ahead thanks to wards and incredible stats as long as he doesnt spend too much energy on nazgul.

@no_one_expects_the_silver_surf: The Witch King did never hold his own against Gandalf in the books. He ran way from him twice (once from Gandalf the Grey, once from Gandalf the White).

Is there ever any instance of a Nazgul dying besides the Witch King? I'm not sure they can be defeated

The 8 remaining Nazgul died when Sauron was defeated at the end of the War of the Ring. But considering that the mightiest of them was killed by a Hobbit and a Rohirrim female warrior (ans seeing how easily scared they are), we can assume they are perfectly killable.

@leito: yeah but when it was Gtw he fought him for a little while on the wall, then left before either really landed a blow

Eragon clears. To my knowledge, the Nazgul don't fight with the speed or strength of elves, and seeing as how Brisingr can burst into flames...

On top of that, Eragon has wards and self-healing magic. The Nazgul do not.

Eragon should really have no problem with all nine of them. He's physically superior, much more skilled, and his magical abilities are not only much more powerful, but much more combat oriented.

@no_one_expects_the_silver_surf: we were talking "book versions". The added scene where the Witch King breaks Gandalf's staff should never have been shot, let alone included in the movie...

Eragon dies at the third round. He is a man and man cannot beat Witch-King.

If a woman can kill the Witch-King, I'm pretty sure a half-elf/half-human can kill the Witch-King. He's technically not fully human as of Eldest, and he's also technically part dragon.

@leito: not talking about that, in the book he fights gandalf, he doesnt brak his staff but they do fight

@no_one_expects_the_silver_surf: No, they don't. When the Witch King enters Minas Tirith, Gandalf the White confronts him, mounted on Shadowfax. They exchange a few phrases, the Witch King tries to impress Gandalf by showing his flaming sword... and leaves when the Rohirrim arrive.

The Witch King and other Nazguls attacked Gandalf the Grey on Weathertop at night time without being able to defeat him. The were too scared to face him during the day and fled in front of him...

What a bullshit? What is he? Some sort of mutation of Frankenstein monster? He is dragon, elf, man, dragon, zombie, orc etc etc etc ? I am not going to debate on such ridiculous character then lol.

Nasgul stomp. Eragon cannot effect their minds as they are controlled by Sauron who would destroy eragon in any fight. Eragon cannot take five near superhumans at once

@noah_ouellette: The Nazgul are barely superhuman: a woman and a hobbit killed the most powerful one and they were relatively untrained. Eragon, in comparison, was a master swordsman by age 15 and regularly spars with warriors as strong and talented as he is. On top of that, the Nazgul have no wards that protect them from magic. All Eragon has to do is say the word and they all get set on fire, or frozen in place.

@noah_ouellette: Good thing he's not "near superhuman" but actually superhuman.

@thevivas: I'm completely aware. But lore instead of movie Nazgul. Just win. Shadow magic combined with ethereal forms. Not to mention the scream eragon would have to set up his wards before hand.

@noah_ouellette:

with ethereal forms

They're not in ghost form like in The Battle of Five Armies.

Bump

Eragon stomps. He is massively more skilled than them, has much higher physicals and has more powerful magic. Eragon does not need to Eldunari as he can simply use the ability taught to him by Oromis of taking power from the living beings around him.

I agree with you for the majority, but the location of the fight is in Dol Guldur, which is a dungeon in Mordor. There won't be much of anything for Eragon to draw on, not that he'll be too dependent on magic.

he isnt beating the witch king.

Why not? We've already stated why, and the restriction on "no man can defeat him" wouldn't apply, as Eragon is part elf and part dragon.

@mrunsmiley "no man" means male, being half elf or dragon dont mean squat if you still have a male genitalia.

Eragon clears without much difficulty, the Nazguls were a little clumsy from what I remember, the versatility is against them.

Except that you don't know the context of the situation. The sword Merry used was magic and managed to sever Sauron's magic. It's not because Eowyn wasn't a man, it was because no regular man-made sword would be able to wound the Nazgul as long as they were protected by Sauron's magic.

Failing that, nothing's stopping Eragon from using magic.

@mrunsmiley no where that ive seen has it said her sword was enchanted. Merry wielded a dunedain dagger thats why he was able to strike the witch king and damage him. The dagger had enchantments that were deadly to the witch king, how are you certain any of his magic would be the type that would effect him?

I never said that Eowyn's sword was enchanted, only Merry's. The only thing that is keeping the Witch King safe is Sauron's magic. What does Eragon have at his disposal? Not only the means to detect spells and counter them, but the name of magic, which allows him to disable any spell he comes across.

@mrunsmiley He got the power to take on magic as powerful as Sauron?

It's not a matter of power: the Name of the Ancient Language simply allows the user to manipulate spells as they see fit.

@mrunsmiley lol that is OP. Guess now the only way i see him beating witch king is if his ancient language thingy would work in LOTR universe, like IG in DC wouldnt work and so on and so forth. But if it does then i agree with you eragorn should be able to pull out a victory. If its ghost form of nazgul though, from the hobbit then Nazgul gonna go beast mode on ya boy.

No it doesn't. Man is a human term, it doesn't apply to other races.

And that may be, but as is one of the key teachings of Oromis, every place has some life. That was one of the reasons he was told to meditate for so long and so many times until he could sense EVERYTHING that was alive there. Even Bacteria.

@mrunsmiley: For the sake of debate, I'm going to say he can't use the Name of names.

@randomsid Then why didnt any elf kill him? Man meaning male, which is for every race, unless its a species that can change gender.

@thevivas if i was wide awake id continues debate with him, but im a little tired.

@savageslayer: Just for future reference.

I just don't understand how anyone can make a case for the Nazgul. They never faced anyone even remotely as skilled or as magically gifted as Eragon. Saying that just because he's a man, means he can't win, is a no limits fallacy. If Superman decided to kill the Nazgul, I'm confident they'd be dead, regardless of his having a penis.