Team 1 Stomps, you got 2 immortals (Edo Madara + Aizen) and 1 nigh immortal Alucard (assuming not post - Schrodinger).
Aizen and Madara for offensive, Alucard can just sit and watch (which IMO he won't do), and wait for anyone from team two to fall, devours it and turn it into his familiar. If father falls (which Aizen could pull), Alucards eats him and become god himself.
That's a curbstomp already.
Only threats from team 2 are Sephiroth and the Humonculus (because he devoured god, which makes him god ?).
He can absorb souls just by waving a hand (Aizen beats him with flash step).
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Aizen can solo, Alucard can solo, Yusuke can beat anyone on team 2 besides Goku... were my first thoughts. But, there just isn't that much info on what a fully powered Father can do. So, could go either way.
@jeanroygrant: Uh, he said Teen Goku, So no supersaiyan yet.
Otherwise, a difficult win for team 1.
Oh.
@TheEd said:
Aizen can solo, Alucard can solo, Yusuke can beat anyone on team 2 besides Goku... were my first thoughts. But, there just isn't that much info on what a fully powered Father can do. So, could go either way.
Sephiroth is technically immortal as well, and can absorb soul energy, and is faster and more powerful than Alexander Anderson and Walter C. Dornez, both characters who gave Alucard a heck of a time. In fact, he's not much different than Alucard, as he obtains the abilities and knowledge of those he's consumed.
@Floopay: Not in the same level of immortality as Alucard or Madara though, i.e insane regeneration.
He died right, takes 3 years before he came back just to be killed by Cloud.
All while holding back :P
And Alucard isn't immortal, he can be killed via stake or item to the heart, as confirmed by Walter. Anderson also could have killed him as well, had Alucard not decided to not let him win, he would have been dead.
Plus Sephiroth can go intangible, can telepathically assault anyone who isn't immune to telepathy, create illusions, etc. etc.
Additionally, how many characters on team 1 depend on Ki, Spiritual Energy, Soul Energy, etc. for their attacks? Because those would only serve to feed Sephiroth.
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@Floopay said:
Sephiroth is technically immortal as well, and can absorb soul energy, and is faster and more powerful than Alexander Anderson and Walter C. Dornez, both characters who gave Alucard a heck of a time. In fact, he's not much different than Alucard, as he obtains the abilities and knowledge of those he's consumed.
Thanks for reading,
Floopay
He's a memory that can be brought back when the plot demands it. He can be killed faster than anyone on team 1 (except Lulu).
Sephiroth is technically immortal as well, and can absorb soul energy, and is faster and more powerful than Alexander Anderson and Walter C. Dornez, both characters who gave Alucard a heck of a time. In fact, he's not much different than Alucard, as he obtains the abilities and knowledge of those he's consumed.
Thanks for reading,
Floopay
He's a memory that can be brought back when the plot demands it. He can be killed faster than anyone on team 1 (except Lulu).
Sephiroth is not just a memory. He's a real being that exists in a metaphysical plane of existence. Or...at least real in the FF7 universe I should say :P
@Floopay: Wasn't stated what level. He can't be killed just by a stake to the heart, only if he is in level 0 and all familiars are released which makes leaves him with only 1 soul.
And if this is post - Schrodinger, team 1 stomps. And you can't kill anyone under Edo tensei, and clearly, no one in team 2 knows any sealing jutsu. Aizen can solo Sephiroth, strength, speed and immortality.
Freaking hogyoku, sometimes that ability is overhyped by the writers i think.
@Floopay: Wasn't stated what level. He can't be killed just by a stake to the heart, only if he is in level 0 and all familiars are released which makes leaves him with only 1 soul.
And if this is post - Schrodinger, team 1 stomps. And you can't kill anyone under Edo tensei, and clearly, no one in team 2 knows any sealing jutsu. Aizen can solo Sephiroth, strength, speed and immortality.
Freaking hogyoku, sometimes that ability is overhyped by the writers i think.
Under Edo Tensei aren't they a soul trapped in a body, as opposed to a being in their own body?
And isn't the Hogyoku a soul manipulating device?
Even if he's not level 0, there's nothing in Alucard's arsenal that could even touch Sephiroth unless he wanted it to. Alucard is not fast enough, he's not strong enough, and he's not powerful enough without Level 0 unleashed.
And yes, I've read the entire manga, the best feats of Alucard are probably him against Tubalcain Alhambra Pre-Level 0.
Yes, and the only way to end edo tensei is to either stop the user (which in this fight is not included), or to seal that body, otherwise, cannot be killed.
Yes a tool, makes Aizen immortal (overhyped IMO).
Telepathy? Guns (superhuman accuracy)? Baskerville? Telekinesis? Mind rape (if Post - Schrodinger) since he can be at anyone's mind.
I considered the humonculus as a serious threat than Sephi on this one.
Yes, and the only way to end edo tensei is to either stop the user (which in this fight is not included), or to seal that body, otherwise, cannot be killed.
Yes a tool, makes Aizen immortal (overhyped IMO).
Telepathy? Guns (superhuman accuracy)? Baskerville? Telekinesis? Mind rape (if Post - Schrodinger) since he can be at anyone's mind.
I considered the humonculus as a serious threat than Sephi on this one.
Well if he's a lose soul in a body, then Sephiroth can absorb him.
Sephiroth pulls a loose soul out of the lifestream and into his body
"It was so foolish of me to compare myself to such a stupid human. I'm not in a good mood. I'm pretty annoyed. Leave quickly if you don't understand what I'm saying."
"I'll do that."
This old man couldn't be saved. On the throne where his desires rotted drifting away, he was going to remain there until he reached the end of his long years and his ego disappeared.
Just when Aerith turned her back towards President Shinra and was about to return on her journey...
Something strange happened. A strange wave separate from the Lifestream, rushed into the Sea of Mako shaking it violently. It was an ominous wave like a great pulse.
"What is this?"
Hearing the screams of the old man, Aerith spun round.
All she could see was the figure of the President being drawn away into the distance. Gradually, the speed picked up extremely fast.
He wasn't on a current. The old man was dragged away as if he was caught by gravity, picking up speed as he dropped. He was heading somewhere in the Sea of Mako, drawn away.
Leaving a long trailing scream of terror behind, President Shinra disappeared.
Aerith felt the pulse again. She knew what it was clearly this time. It was the same wave of the one who ended her life in the Forgotten City.
That man was lurking somewhere in the Lifestream.
"Sephiroth..."
The silver haired apostate angel smiled thinly as if taking away the wicked souls to hell. This time Aerith knew the danger wasn't over.
The Holy she had summoned was being suppressed just as it was about to work. The Planet's scar from long ago... Sephiroth was in the Northern Crater that was Jenova's "Promised Land", waiting for the moment when he would be reborn as his original self.
The Ultimate Destructive Black Magic Meteor was on the move. The devil's hammer that would descend from the distant heavens to smash the Planet was summoned.
He has a lot more feats than that, but I'll stick with that for now.
Telepathy is useless, Sephiroth is faster than a bullet, Baskerville couldn't even digest Luke Valentine, Mind Rape doesn't work because all he could do Pre-Shcroedinger was charm a hotel attendant and Seph has better feats than that.
That is Sephiroth in the lifestream, he can't possibly just absorb any souls at his will, if he could, then there wouldn't be AC, since he would just absorb anyone's soul. And on that state, he is considered dead, can't fight face to face, so he needed his remnants and that jenova cell for him to be reborn, which happens and all in vain because he is a little too much arrogant to underestimate Cloud in AC.
He can't absorb Madara's soul, as I already stated the possible ways to end Edo Tensei.
And comparing that meteor summoning feat, Madara did it in seconds, not just once but twice in a row, maybe a smaller version but he can summon as many as he wants since he is under Edo Tensei (unlimited chakra / stamina).
As you said, telepathy won't work against Sephi, same thing goes for the vamp, since their both telepath (which of levels weren't clear).
Sephiroth have flight, Rip Van can solve that problem, on ground fight, it'll get more problematic for him. Rip Van (again), Dandy man, Alucard and anyone from team one.
Alucard and Sephi one on one (or switch with Madara or Aizen).
Aizen vs father - Aizen (not easy though)
Madara, Yusuke, and that guy for the rest of team 2, which ends up in a stomp.
And when the rest of team 2 is down, Alucard gets a buffet then make them all his familiars.
Summon them, so you get team 1 + the rest of team 2 vs Sephi alone. Team 1 wins.
@Immortal777: I'll agree with putting Lelouch here as pointless since he has no prep but his Geass maybe effective if he wasn't so slow as for Yami/Atem he's a strong contender here he can banish them to the shadow realm and have the Egyptian Gds on your side isn't bad either, he can also make each of his cards real so there's that too
That is Sephiroth in the lifestream, he can't possibly just absorb any souls at his will, if he could, then there wouldn't be AC, since he would just absorb anyone's soul. And on that state, he is considered dead, can't fight face to face, so he needed his remnants and that jenova cell for him to be reborn, which happens and all in vain because he is a little too much arrogant to underestimate Cloud in AC.
He can't absorb Madara's soul, as I already stated the possible ways to end Edo Tensei.
And comparing that meteor summoning feat, Madara did it in seconds, not just once but twice in a row, maybe a smaller version but he can summon as many as he wants since he is under Edo Tensei (unlimited chakra / stamina).
As you said, telepathy won't work against Sephi, same thing goes for the vamp, since their both telepath (which of levels weren't clear).
Sephiroth have flight, Rip Van can solve that problem, on ground fight, it'll get more problematic for him. Rip Van (again), Dandy man, Alucard and anyone from team one.
Alucard and Sephi one on one (or switch with Madara or Aizen).
Aizen vs father - Aizen (not easy though)
Madara, Yusuke, and that guy for the rest of team 2, which ends up in a stomp.
And when the rest of team 2 is down, Alucard gets a buffet then make them all his familiars.
Summon them, so you get team 1 + the rest of team 2 vs Sephi alone. Team 1 wins.
:-)
PS: why's a Yugi Oh char in here anyway.
That quote is actually before Sephiroth was in the lifestream, so there's that.
And in Advent Children he was crushing people's souls with Geostigma.
Any on panel evidence of him resisting soul manipulation? Sephiroth has affected souls on multiple occasions, and even infected people's souls (millions of people's souls).
Sephiroth only summoned meteor to wound the planet, and had no intention of destroying it with meteor.
Rip Van Winkle's bullet wouldn't touch Sephiroth. Alucard was able to destroy that bullet by biting it, imagine what would happen when Sephiroth's sword came into contact with it.
Sephiroth has telekinesis on a level that allows him to collapse sky scrapers that are the size of a small town. He could easily immobilize Sephiroth and kill him. Sephiroth only toyed with Cloud because he wanted to make Cloud suffer for what he had done to Sephiroth, nobody on team one has that advantage, Sephiroth will slaughter them the way he slaughters armies, without remorse.
Sephiroth collapsed the top quarter of the building in the middle with his telekinesis alone.
Over and above this Sephiroth has flight, illusion casting, force field projection, invisibility, phasing, soul manipulation, soul energy absorption, telepathy, superhuman strength (in the 6,000 ton level or higher), hypersonic speed and reflexes, immunity to heat, genius level intelligence, darkness manipulation, weather control, extreme durability (can withstand blows that would crush through several meters of steel without sustaining any injuries), and is a master swordsman.
His ranged slices cover areas as wide as 20 meters and easily slice through a dozen meters of reinforced steel. And that's ranged attacks.
Over and above that, he is 1 guy, he has a team of fighters go with him. One of which is Father, who can manipulate the elements effortlessly, bend steel, concrete, and pretty much anything else to his whim, and can manipulate a small amount of matter to become several times more dense and much greater in mass. Plus he can regenerate instantaneously, and can rip a soul out of someone's body, so how's team 1 going to fair team going to fair against that?
I'm just saying, Team 2 very well could take this :P
@afueikawa: Yugi counters Mangekyo with Mirror Force, destroying all face up opponents he's facing.
He is already under an illusion before the fight starts (assuming Madara stared at him / them) before fighting.
@Floopay:
Geostigma here isn't usefull, it takes time before it kills a person (and Sephi needs to be in the lifestream to do that, technically, he needs to die physically).
Whose to say Alucard's gun won't break Sephi's sword like it did with Anderson's (holy blades). And alucard's ammo is infinite (? - not sure since in the anime, he just keeps shooting). Sephi can fly yes, and advantage, but Alucard can transform (bats, illusions, etc etc).
Cloud beats his ass, because he is arrogant. He's fault (or is it the plot again, since we know he can't. He did before because of cheap stab from the back).
And he can only be killed by humans, no more no less (Transformed Anderson can't, the Holy grail which have the blood of Christ / God can't), and technically, Sephi isn't human.
Sephiroth have speed, so is alucard, not to mention Aizen's flashstep, which is way more faster than any speed feat shown in FF7.
Yeah, that father is a threat (more than Sephi), but we don't know if his soul reaping capability can kill Edo Madara, since only sealing or stopping the one who did Edo Tensei can kill madara, or can father not affected by EMS. So might be a stale mate.
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