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#1 Posted by BigCimmerian (7562 posts) - - Show Bio

- Elder gods are consisted of Set, Atum Demogorge, Gaea, Oshtur and Chthon

- Eternity is full powered, Galactus has just eaten

- No prep, who wins and why?

#2 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

If it where not for Oshtur, there would be no Eternity.

If it were not for Eternity, there would be no Galactus.

This is ALL SEEN IN THE EYE OF AGAMOTTO.

#3 Posted by Living_Monstrosity (422 posts) - - Show Bio

Eternity roflstomps.

Galactus could pull out a solo.

#4 Posted by BigCimmerian (7562 posts) - - Show Bio

@Living_Monstrosity said:

Eternity roflstomps.

Galactus could pull out a solo.

I thought that Set and Chthon could be too much alone, but I added others because viners will not agree with me.

#5 Posted by ShootingNova (13065 posts) - - Show Bio

Has Chthon really killed Classic Dr. Strange with his mere presence?

#6 Posted by Azathoth_The_Dread_Sleeper (597 posts) - - Show Bio

Leaning towards Galactus and Eternity.

#7 Posted by Living_Monstrosity (422 posts) - - Show Bio

@ShootingNova said:

Has Chthon really killed Classic Dr. Strange with his mere presence?

no

#8 Posted by BigCimmerian (7562 posts) - - Show Bio

@ShootingNova said:

Has Chthon really killed Classic Dr. Strange with his mere presence?

He didn't kill him, he was close, but Doctor Strange survived because of faith, something like that.

#9 Posted by Bo88gdan (4374 posts) - - Show Bio

Eternity and Galactus ftw

#10 Posted by AtPhantom (14465 posts) - - Show Bio

Man this Elder Gods stuff is getting ridiculous.

#11 Posted by BigCimmerian (7562 posts) - - Show Bio

@AtPhantom said:

Man this Elder Gods stuff is getting ridiculous.

Why is that?

#12 Posted by New_World_Order (11159 posts) - - Show Bio

Eternity is too powerful.

#13 Posted by BigCimmerian (7562 posts) - - Show Bio

@ThunderGodsWrath said:

Eternity is too powerful.

So great is Set's power that even the combined might of the Sorcerer Supreme and the Cosmic Cube, which has the power to alter the very fabric of reality, is unable to permanently destroy the Elder Demon, only to briefly exorcise his influence on Earth Dimension.

Eternity himself, embodiment of all that is, later likened Chthon to a "cancer" threatening the Universe, and if not stopped, all of reality itself might have fallen before him in a blink of an eye. Chthon is one of the greatest horror in the Universe and has been described as "the shadow that creep furtively behind the feet of God", so his imprisonment in his dimension must be assured. With this, Gaea, Goddess of the Earth has erected magical screens, reinforced over millennia by human sorcerers, which prevent him from traveling to Earth unless he undertakes highly elaborate preparations. Chthon also has the power to empower a sorcerer when invoked, although the sorcerer will have to surrender his soul, after he gained the power from Chthon. Even immensely powerful mystical beings such as Mephisto and Dormammu invokes Chthon's demonic might. Such was in the instance when Mephisto imprisoned the demon Darklove to one of the pages of the Darkhold and when Dormammu used the Cauldron of Chthon to plunge Earth into permanent darkness. The true testament to Chthon's power so far was probably when Wanda Maximoff, the Scarlet Witch who was "blessed" with a mere fraction of Chthon's unholy might altered reality itself. She casted her spell over billions upon billions of souls, worlds and dimensions, affecting alternate realties and permanently shifted all the possible futures of the entire Marvel Universe, a feat which is nearly unprecedented by even the most powerful of Cosmic Entities.

The angelic Oshtur serves as the opposing power against the demonic Chthon, whose very presence on Earth Dimension threatens the entire Universe. She is also responsible for the creation of the Book of the Vishanti, a tome of White Magic that serves as the opposing power to the Book of theDarkhold created by Chthon.

Atum is by a considerable margin one of the most powerful entities of the whole Marvel Universe. Atum is an extremely mighty being with unbelievable power sufficient to singlehandedly defeat the elder gods, or simultaneously overcome multiple pantheons of deities all by his lonesome.

I know that this is taken from Comic Vine bios, but isn't this enough to threaten Eternity? I think that Galactus cannot beat any of these.

#14 Posted by New_World_Order (11159 posts) - - Show Bio

@BigCimmerian said:

@ThunderGodsWrath said:

Eternity is too powerful.

So great is Set's power that even the combined might of the Sorcerer Supreme and the Cosmic Cube, which has the power to alter the very fabric of reality, is unable to permanently destroy the Elder Demon, only to briefly exorcise his influence on Earth Dimension.

Eternity himself, embodiment of all that is, later likened Chthon to a "cancer" threatening the Universe, and if not stopped, all of reality itself might have fallen before him in a blink of an eye. Chthon is one of the greatest horror in the Universe and has been described as "the shadow that creep furtively behind the feet of God", so his imprisonment in his dimension must be assured. With this, Gaea, Goddess of the Earth has erected magical screens, reinforced over millennia by human sorcerers, which prevent him from traveling to Earth unless he undertakes highly elaborate preparations. Chthon also has the power to empower a sorcerer when invoked, although the sorcerer will have to surrender his soul, after he gained the power from Chthon. Even immensely powerful mystical beings such as Mephisto and Dormammu invokes Chthon's demonic might. Such was in the instance when Mephisto imprisoned the demon Darklove to one of the pages of the Darkhold and when Dormammu used the Cauldron of Chthon to plunge Earth into permanent darkness. The true testament to Chthon's power so far was probably when Wanda Maximoff, the Scarlet Witch who was "blessed" with a mere fraction of Chthon's unholy might altered reality itself. She casted her spell over billions upon billions of souls, worlds and dimensions, affecting alternate realties and permanently shifted all the possible futures of the entire Marvel Universe, a feat which is nearly unprecedented by even the most powerful of Cosmic Entities.

The angelic Oshtur serves as the opposing power against the demonic Chthon, whose very presence on Earth Dimension threatens the entire Universe. She is also responsible for the creation of the Book of the Vishanti, a tome of White Magic that serves as the opposing power to the Book of theDarkhold created by Chthon.

Atum is by a considerable margin one of the most powerful entities of the whole Marvel Universe. Atum is an extremely mighty being with unbelievable power sufficient to singlehandedly defeat the elder gods, or simultaneously overcome multiple pantheons of deities all by his lonesome.

I know that this is taken from Comic Vine bios, but isn't this enough to threaten Eternity? I think that Galactus cannot beat any of these.

Hmm, i'm not sure. Although your underrestimating big G.

#15 Posted by ShootingNova (13065 posts) - - Show Bio

Well, then, feat wise, team 2 stomps.

#16 Posted by Pokergeist (22329 posts) - - Show Bio

Going with the Multiversal Eldar Gods.

#17 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

@ThunderGodsWrath said:

@BigCimmerian said:

@ThunderGodsWrath said:

Eternity is too powerful.

So great is Set's power that even the combined might of the Sorcerer Supreme and the Cosmic Cube, which has the power to alter the very fabric of reality, is unable to permanently destroy the Elder Demon, only to briefly exorcise his influence on Earth Dimension.

Eternity himself, embodiment of all that is, later likened Chthon to a "cancer" threatening the Universe, and if not stopped, all of reality itself might have fallen before him in a blink of an eye. Chthon is one of the greatest horror in the Universe and has been described as "the shadow that creep furtively behind the feet of God", so his imprisonment in his dimension must be assured. With this, Gaea, Goddess of the Earth has erected magical screens, reinforced over millennia by human sorcerers, which prevent him from traveling to Earth unless he undertakes highly elaborate preparations. Chthon also has the power to empower a sorcerer when invoked, although the sorcerer will have to surrender his soul, after he gained the power from Chthon. Even immensely powerful mystical beings such as Mephisto and Dormammu invokes Chthon's demonic might. Such was in the instance when Mephisto imprisoned the demon Darklove to one of the pages of the Darkhold and when Dormammu used the Cauldron of Chthon to plunge Earth into permanent darkness. The true testament to Chthon's power so far was probably when Wanda Maximoff, the Scarlet Witch who was "blessed" with a mere fraction of Chthon's unholy might altered reality itself. She casted her spell over billions upon billions of souls, worlds and dimensions, affecting alternate realties and permanently shifted all the possible futures of the entire Marvel Universe, a feat which is nearly unprecedented by even the most powerful of Cosmic Entities.

The angelic Oshtur serves as the opposing power against the demonic Chthon, whose very presence on Earth Dimension threatens the entire Universe. She is also responsible for the creation of the Book of the Vishanti, a tome of White Magic that serves as the opposing power to the Book of theDarkhold created by Chthon.

Atum is by a considerable margin one of the most powerful entities of the whole Marvel Universe. Atum is an extremely mighty being with unbelievable power sufficient to singlehandedly defeat the elder gods, or simultaneously overcome multiple pantheons of deities all by his lonesome.

I know that this is taken from Comic Vine bios, but isn't this enough to threaten Eternity? I think that Galactus cannot beat any of these.

Hmm, i'm not sure. Although your underrestimating big G.

In all actuality, close to everyone overestimates the Big G.

#18 Posted by TERMINATORFAN (1250 posts) - - Show Bio

Elder gods solo.

#19 Posted by Killemall (16960 posts) - - Show Bio

@AtPhantom said:

Man this Elder Gods stuff is getting ridiculous.

hahahha

cosigned :)

#20 Posted by Killemall (16960 posts) - - Show Bio

For the record, when Dr. Strange uses the cosmic cube specially to banish Set , turning that around to say cosmic cube likely had insufficient power to do anything other than banish Set seemed like a weird explaination.

Cosmic cube did exactly what it was asked to do, banish Set. Why Dr. Strange did not as the cube to turn Set into a roasted chicken so he could feast on it, is a different matter altogether.

#21 Posted by New_World_Order (11159 posts) - - Show Bio

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning: Somewhat

#22 Edited by Pokergeist (22329 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

For the record, when Dr. Strange uses the cosmic cube specially to banish Set , turning that around to say cosmic cube likely had insufficient power to do anything other than banish Set seemed like a weird explaination.

Cosmic cube did exactly what it was asked to do, banish Set. Why Dr. Strange did not as the cube to turn Set into a roasted chicken so he could feast on it, is a different matter altogether.

.... when did Dr. Strange fight Set at all?

The Bluuuagh Eldar God?

#23 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

@CadenceV2: Yes they fought, but Killemall is stating it quite wrong. It was Spiderman that used the Cosmic Cube to destroy Set's physical host body.... Dr. Strange casted a spell of Banishment while Spiderman, Thing, and Wanda were using their wills to divert Set's SERPENTS to the Cosmic Cube.

  1. this is the finale of a saga were set travels multiversal earths to influence people of collecting the serpent crowns, but he is physically destroyed by one cosmic cube
  2. and exercised temporary thanks to the antics of agamotto (if not for agamotto, set would have been permanently sealed)
  3. for some reason set and chthon just needs to get their hands on a physical sentient host! which in contrast to abstracts and principalities, does not. and what differs from the principality deities from fundamental abstracts like eternity -eternity usually ends up to be the prime target to be possessed by it's own occupants whether mortal or not.
  4. thousands of thousands of magically empowered vipers are desprately at full strength and power to stop the exorcism.
#24 Posted by Pokergeist (22329 posts) - - Show Bio

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning: Well the Scan is appreciated. Seems to take 4 people with a Cosmic Cube and strongly will it to merely hold Set's spirit lol.

#25 Posted by BigCimmerian (7562 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

For the record, when Dr. Strange uses the cosmic cube specially to banish Set , turning that around to say cosmic cube likely had insufficient power to do anything other than banish Set seemed like a weird explaination.

Cosmic cube did exactly what it was asked to do, banish Set. Why Dr. Strange did not as the cube to turn Set into a roasted chicken so he could feast on it, is a different matter altogether.

Have you read that issue? I think Strange wanted to destroy Set, but was only capable of banishing him.

#26 Posted by Killemall (16960 posts) - - Show Bio

@BigCimmerian said:

Have you read that issue? I think Strange wanted to destroy Set, but was only capable of banishing him.

They wanted to stop Set and did what they had to do with a cosmic cube, had their wish been different and control of cube been better, result would have been different. I mean , come on, we have seen a cosmic cube, borken into peices create a reality (universe) each for a hero in Earth 977.

Its like me comparing Doom with Galactus power getting owned by a cosmic cube, and a weakened Thanos merely knocked out, after he had time to utter a complete sentence from Thanos Imperative to say Thanos > Galactus.

#27 Posted by Pokergeist (22329 posts) - - Show Bio

@BigCimmerian said:

@Killemall said:

For the record, when Dr. Strange uses the cosmic cube specially to banish Set , turning that around to say cosmic cube likely had insufficient power to do anything other than banish Set seemed like a weird explaination.

Cosmic cube did exactly what it was asked to do, banish Set. Why Dr. Strange did not as the cube to turn Set into a roasted chicken so he could feast on it, is a different matter altogether.

Have you read that issue? I think Strange wanted to destroy Set, but was only capable of banishing him.

From the Scan I am looking at the cosmic Cube power was nowhere enough to beat Set at all.

Set > Cosmic Cube.

#28 Posted by laflux (11060 posts) - - Show Bio

#29 Posted by GhettoSwag (151 posts) - - Show Bio

Atum and gaea can solo these punks <3

#30 Posted by Killemall (16960 posts) - - Show Bio

Eternity and Galactus murderstomp...

Totally forgot about the thread.

#31 Posted by Hyperlight (4319 posts) - - Show Bio

no elder god can take an abstract and win under normal circumstances. same thing with galactus... the only problem is that big G's power isnt perpetual but its more than enough for the elder gods

#32 Posted by GhettoSwag (151 posts) - - Show Bio

@hyperlight: Not Atum.. Atum the god eater is crazy powerful.. A lot of people say he would beat galactus

#33 Posted by rolldestroyer (3508 posts) - - Show Bio

team 2 easily

#34 Edited by DonaldDuck (132 posts) - - Show Bio

Set > Cosmic Cube
Cosmic Cube > Galactus

Quack!

#35 Edited by Killemall (16960 posts) - - Show Bio

@hyperlight: Not Atum.. Atum the god eater is crazy powerful.. A lot of people say he would beat galactus

Marvel however says he is a skyfather being, in fact not only is that a comment made by an Editor on formspring, its actually outright stated in his bio as well.

Not to mention he doesnt have feats above or even on the same level as Galactus.

Set > Cosmic Cube

Cosmic Cube > Galactus

Quack!

Sorry this is the third time i am replying to you in a short time span, i assure you its pure coincident and i am not like picking you or anything.

But the first part is blatantly incorrect because Set was amped up by every version of Set throughtout the multiverse in that instance.

Below are the complete scans as well as bios

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Marvel Team Up , Volume 1, Issue 05: Serpent Crown possesses Quasar

Agatha Harkness shows Wanda an image of Set in all his astral glory, and you can see him circling multiple planets, he is indeed big.

Scarlet Witch fight Serpent enhanced Quasar and gets stomped

777 Serpent crown is brought together, and those serpent is then used to bring together <possibly> all other serpent crown from the multiverse. These crown are merged together forming a kick ass huge crown as a vessel for Set to physically manifest on earth

While heroes (Stingray, Dr. Strange, The Thing , Quasar and Wanda) are helpless against the giant crown, Spiderman managed to find a CCU, uses that with help of Dr. Strange, Thing and Wanda to destroy the crown first, then banish Set

Marvel Handbook 1989 confirms that Set was vastly more powerful than Scarlet Witch, but hey i guess we already knew that

Marvel Handbook 1989 confirms that cosmic cube did in fact, reduce the giant crown into metallic dust

Marvel Zombie Handbook 2007 states that it is still unclear whether Serpent can actually be killed, sort of explains why Dr. Strange with a cosmic cube didnt outright kill Set but used it to banish Set.

However thing to note is that there is a big possibility Set was amped in this encounter.

Firstly, we know 777 crown + other crown called from the multiverse were used to fused together and wake up Set

All these crowns might not be Set own power but powers of various Set across the multiverse.

Marvel has intentionally let it vague let try to document what Marvel has established so far:

Marvel Handbook 1989 states that its unclear whether each of the realities has its own Set, or whether there is only one Set in the multiverse

We know one of the crown was from Earth 712, Marvel Zombie handbook leaves it unclear whether this is a power of a seperate Set from Earth 712, as it reads "Directed by Set (or perhaps his Earth 712 counterpart)

Furthermore Marvel Zombie Handbook 2007 also goes on to say "Some sources describe Set as being unique to the multiverse, but other sources show an individual Set in various alternate realities".

===================================================================================

#36 Posted by comic_book_fan (4469 posts) - - Show Bio

@donaldduck:

a cosmic cube is not greater than galactus hell it is less than any celestial galactus is at least twice as powerful as a cosmic cube on his average appearances at full power he would be much stronger.

#37 Edited by XiiX (4795 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2.

Online
#38 Posted by Hyperlight (4319 posts) - - Show Bio
#39 Posted by capall2 (1428 posts) - - Show Bio

Abstracts > elder gods...

#40 Posted by thanobomb1124 (2000 posts) - - Show Bio

Eternity and Galactus.

#41 Posted by Killemall (16960 posts) - - Show Bio

@donaldduck:

a cosmic cube is not greater than galactus hell it is less than any celestial galactus is at least twice as powerful as a cosmic cube on his average appearances at full power he would be much stronger.

Kubik and Kosmos, 2 being evolved from comic cube are apparently less powerful than Galactus, cosmic cube themselves has been directly matched against Galactus with the cube coming out as clearly more powerful.

Dr. Doom stole the power of Galactus, alongside other power ups such as the Ultimate Machine, the Sacred Helix of Randac & the Cosmic Control Rod. Reed then confronts Dr. Doom with all those powers using a cosmic cube.

Dr. Doom gets depowered and Reed flaunts heroic speech..

The cube is then used to restore Galactus

The same cube is then used to undo all the destruction, notice how the Watcher is clearly addressing the cube as more powerful

Watcher: "Reed Richards in your hand you hold a greater power still".

#42 Posted by galactus1967 (72 posts) - - Show Bio

What most poeople are probably unaware of,is this mini-series used like 5or6 writers.And the goal of Doom was to collect objects of power ,until he reached the ultimate goal.Not the cosmic cube that was 2nd,what he wanted was the power of Galactus.After he used all the items he collected to steal the power of Galactus,he actually tossed the cube away.It was clear at that point he thought Galactus power was a lot more powerful than the cube.Galactus at the time was actually weakend,and soon a great hunger set in on doom.He now knew what it was like to feel the hunger pangs of Galactus.He declared( if he would have the power of Galactus,he must feed like Galactus)so he prepared to eat the earth.At this point Reed showed up with the cube(at this point it probably was more powerful than a weakend from hunger,Doom)And transferred the power back to Galactus,and restored all the damage doom had done.But I would have to say that a Galactus that recently fed on a planet,would beat a cube being no probem.(an amped Galactus can 1 shot a celestial,and these cube beings practically worship them)Oh!and Eternity and bigG,smash the Eldergods,and meet with Death and Oblivion at the local starbucks by 9:30am.

#43 Posted by New_World_Order (11159 posts) - - Show Bio

How does one beat Eternity without destroying the universe?

#44 Posted by BigCimmerian (7562 posts) - - Show Bio

How does one beat Eternity without destroying the universe?

How does one beat Thor without destroying thunder and lightning? :D

#45 Posted by New_World_Order (11159 posts) - - Show Bio

@thundergodswrath said:

How does one beat Eternity without destroying the universe?

How does one beat Thor without destroying thunder and lightning? :D

Lool, that is not the same. I mean isn't he practically the universe?

#46 Edited by ManInTheMountain (287 posts) - - Show Bio

Elder gods godstomp. Galactus is a non factor here, these are primordial beings. Eternity will be a hard fight, but come on, there are 6 elder gods.

#47 Posted by Dredeuced (4421 posts) - - Show Bio

@thundergodswrath: He's the embodiment of the universe but, so long as he's replaced by who beats him ala Thanos, things don't really change.

#48 Posted by New_World_Order (11159 posts) - - Show Bio
#49 Posted by BigCimmerian (7562 posts) - - Show Bio

@bigcimmerian said:

@thundergodswrath said:

How does one beat Eternity without destroying the universe?

How does one beat Thor without destroying thunder and lightning? :D

Lool, that is not the same. I mean isn't he practically the universe?

twas but a joke :)

#50 Edited by All_Mighty_Beyonder (1362 posts) - - Show Bio

What most poeople are probably unaware of,is this mini-series used like 5or6 writers.And the goal of Doom was to collect objects of power ,until he reached the ultimate goal.Not the cosmic cube that was 2nd,what he wanted was the power of Galactus.After he used all the items he collected to steal the power of Galactus,he actually tossed the cube away.It was clear at that point he thought Galactus power was a lot more powerful than the cube.Galactus at the time was actually weakend,and soon a great hunger set in on doom.He now knew what it was like to feel the hunger pangs of Galactus.He declared( if he would have the power of Galactus,he must feed like Galactus)so he prepared to eat the earth.At this point Reed showed up with the cube(at this point it probably was more powerful than a weakend from hunger,Doom)And transferred the power back to Galactus,and restored all the damage doom had done.But I would have to say that a Galactus that recently fed on a planet,would beat a cube being no probem.(an amped Galactus can 1 shot a celestial,and these cube beings practically worship them)Oh!and Eternity and bigG,smash the Eldergods,and meet with Death and Oblivion at the local starbucks by 9:30am.

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