@Strider92 said:
@Jezer said:
This was a nice post!
However, you said you believe the wolves were between 2-4 ton. You'd have to calculate how strong real life wolves are, and then use the proportion between that strength and 2-4 tons in order to find how much you should multiple a real life wolves bite strength, in order to find the Twilight wolve's bite strength. It would be like
X(Twilight wolves bite strength)............................1500psi(Real wolf's bite strength)
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2-4 tons(Twilight wolf's regular strength)...............Y(Real wolf's regular strength)
Insert Y(look it up), then solve for X.
2-4 ton mark was my original guess on how physically strong they were physically but I was being completely hypothetical. That post was simply me attempting to calculate their bite ratio. A wolfs physical strength is generally lower than its PSI because the strongest muscles are in the jaw.
So to find that out i'd need to find the physical strength of your average wolf and double it. I've tried searching the net and can't find an accurate measurement for the physical strength of a wolf. What I did find however is that your average wolf is roughly double the strength of an average man who engages in moderate weight lifting (so around 152lbs a lot of sights say different things so I just went with the middle one). So that's going to be: 142x2= 284(stregnth of your average wolf) 304x2= 568(258Kg).
There is still a problem here though. Although a Twilight wolf should be only 568lbs in strength this can't be right as 4 of them where able to restrain an 8 tonner. so going by that they must at least be 2 tonners each (assuming they where all taking an equal amount of weight from the vamp) to be able to hold it down. So the problem is the Vamp's stats as unless i've missed something the wolf stats should be right.
After going through I don't know how much crap on Twilight sites and books I finally found a reference "They are said to 100x stronger than a human." So that brings us back to the strengh of your average human who engages in weight lifting was roughly 142lbs. 142x100= 14200lbs(64545Kg) or 6.4tons. So vamps are probably about 6 tonners which is 2 tons weaker than i'd originally thought.
Bearing in mind that each wolf has a PSI of 1.3tons and a physical strength of 258kg it is quite feasible that 4 of them could pin 6 tonner using the combined force of their jaws and physical strength.
Another thing we have to remember is this:
The vamp we are using in this fight does not drink human blood! It's stated numerous times that due to this he is not as strong as regular vamps as human blood keeps them in peak condition. Thus his physical stats are going to be lower than your average Vamp.
So in conclusion:
shapeshifter: 258Kg with a 1.3ton PSI
Vampire: 6 tonner
This brings me back to my initial argument:
Deadpool, IF have both been able to penetrate people who have resisted much higher than 1.3tons of pressure(Spider-man, Hulk etc..) so I don't see why they should have trouble with him. This made slightly easier by the fact this vampire does not drink human blood so his stats are less than what could be considered a peak vampire.
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I really wish I could put this kind of time and research into something useful.....lol
The main problem I have with your calculation is the assumption that Twilight Wolves are two times stronger than regular wolves. Even assuming they are only two times bigger, that doesn't necessarily mean they're only two times stronger. So, I'm not sure about your calculation of 1.3 ton PSI.
Also, I'm not sure what you mean by the strength of the average human who engages in bench pressing. Are you saying that's the average bench press weight of someone who works out? It's 142? Where did you get the number from, is what I'm asking.(I'm only 5'8, work out casually and bench 225, but I'm not like giantly buff like the Hulk) I thought it would vary significantly based on height and weight. Assuming that is correct, that's benching strength. How does that apply/proportion to overall strength? Or, when you say *this character* is in *this strength range* is that usually referring to their approximate bench press strength?
Last, even though 4 wolves pinned the vampire down, does that mean that 4 wolves were necessary or required? Let's say I get in a fight, when I'm around buddies, they all may jump in to hold the guy or help me (assuming I need help) but that doesn't mean I couldn't hold him down on my home. I only ask this because
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf52BQ7Lub4
Shows some werewolves pinning down vampires by themselves. Other times it shows vampires overpowering werewolves. Then again, I'm not sure whether you're using the Twilight books or movies. But I have to question whether 4 vamp wolves are actually necessary for holding a vamp down or if in that instance they were just all jumping in to help a buddy. What was the situation like?
I do love the amount of research and effort you put into your post though lol!
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