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#1 Edited by Frocharocha (2281 posts) - - Show Bio

A Predator receives a mission to hunt a very powerful human (he doesn't know Edward is a vampire) in it's first mission. So he arrives in the small town where Edward lives ( don't know the name). And start killing intersting preys.

The town policemen starts thinking on a psychopathic murder responsible for the strange murders made by The Predator. That's when Edward Cullen is walking on the woods to reach the town when he senses a presence, a huge plasma shoot comes out of nowhere but he is able to dodge it. The fight begins. Who wins?

-Edward only has his super powers.

-The Young Blood has everything they can a forge to a hunt.

#2 Posted by Bo88gdan (4405 posts) - - Show Bio

Predator

#3 Posted by DH69 (4258 posts) - - Show Bio

Sadly...sparkles would win...

#4 Posted by darkelf35 (518 posts) - - Show Bio

Sad to say but edward is probably too fast

#5 Edited by Rumble Man (11119 posts) - - Show Bio

Sadly EC

Edit

Until nuke goes off ;)

#6 Posted by JonSmith (3996 posts) - - Show Bio

Young Blood on principle.

DON'T YOU SPEAK TO ME ABOUT SPARKLE LOGIC, YOU TRAITOR.

#7 Posted by Frocharocha (2281 posts) - - Show Bio

@darkelf35 said:

Sad to say but edward is probably too fast

Maybe not strong enough to hand-to-hand combat. Which i doubt the predator would do.

#8 Edited by LordOfAllHumans (4129 posts) - - Show Bio

Edward wins, he's too fast and too strong, he has no body heat so if the Predator is using thermal vision Edward will go unseen.

#9 Posted by ghost_rider1 (3495 posts) - - Show Bio

Edward in a stomp

#10 Posted by OmgOmgWtfWtf (7031 posts) - - Show Bio

Edward would stomp a young blooded Yautja.

#11 Posted by mk111 (3140 posts) - - Show Bio

Poor Predator.

#12 Posted by Parallax_Hal_Jordan (867 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm just curious (and ignorant about Twilight).Is he really stronger than a young Predator?

#13 Edited by Parallax_Hal_Jordan (867 posts) - - Show Bio

@LordOfAllHumans said:

Edward wins, he's too fast and too strong, he has no body heat so if the Predator is using thermal vision Edward will go unseen.

Since the Predator was able to shot him (as the OP states) then he's able to detect him with another vision (dunno which one),except the Predator was shooting to someone else xD

#14 Posted by ghost_rider1 (3495 posts) - - Show Bio
@Parallax_Hal_Jordan

I'm just curious (and ignorant about Twilight).Is he really stronger than a young Predator?

He is way above a young predator. I doubt even an elite predator could match the strength of edward. But no predator comes close to edward's speed
#15 Posted by Parallax_Hal_Jordan (867 posts) - - Show Bio

@ghost_rider1 said:

@Parallax_Hal_Jordan

I'm just curious (and ignorant about Twilight).Is he really stronger than a young Predator?

He is way above a young predator. I doubt even an elite predator could match the strength of edward. But no predator comes close to edward's speed

Thanks,then this is a stomp in Edward's favor,right?

#16 Posted by LordOfAllHumans (4129 posts) - - Show Bio

@Parallax_Hal_Jordan said:

@LordOfAllHumans said:

Edward wins, he's too fast and too strong, he has no body heat so if the Predator is using thermal vision Edward will go unseen.

Since the Predator was able to shot him (as the OP states) then he's able to detect him with another vision (dunno which one),except the Predator was shooting to someone else xD

I'm gussing when the OP was created the creator didn't know that Edward is without body heat, that pic of the Predator certainly suggests he is using his thermal vision, either way missing the first shot was a mistake Edward is still too fast as the OP already has him dodging being fired at.

#17 Posted by ghost_rider1 (3495 posts) - - Show Bio
@Parallax_Hal_Jordan

@ghost_rider1 said:

@Parallax_Hal_Jordan

I'm just curious (and ignorant about Twilight).Is he really stronger than a young Predator?

He is way above a young predator. I doubt even an elite predator could match the strength of edward. But no predator comes close to edward's speed

Thanks,then this is a stomp in Edward's favor,right?

That's what it look likes to me and to the majority of ppl here
#18 Posted by nick_hero22 (6868 posts) - - Show Bio

I would have to go with Edward due to the Predator lacking the sufficient experience to makeup for the edge that Edward has in speed and possibly strength.

#19 Posted by reikai (4233 posts) - - Show Bio

Predator can run and leap in front of a speeding sports car rather easily. Several times. And knock it off the road. Un-Blooded and "Young" Blood Yautja have an average strength class between 3 and 5 (that's tons). One shot from a plasmacaster can bring down a military grade helicopter and the smartdisc on average has a blade that vibrates at subsonic frequencies to give it even greater cutting power and can easily slice through flesh like a wet tissue.
 
A Yautja's skin is almost bullet proof by itself. Small arms fire doing little more than pissing them off. Multiple shotgun blasts at mid-range to the abdomen weren't enough to put one down, just really enrage it. It was enough that the City Hunter needed to use its medical kit, though that was mostly for its missing hand.
 
Un-Blooded trained by Dachande could kill dozens of Xenomorphs with a combistick through sheer martial skill. However, they didn't have the experience or the intelligence to get the hell out of the stampede before being overwhelmed by an army of the buggers.
 
Also their helmets have various vision modes. Xenomorphs do not generate body heat and so Yautja have a mode that can specifically read the bio-signs of living things. Including various light wave frequencies and technology. So, saying a Predator can't see Edward is just silly. And even if Edward is a colder body, the Pred can still detect motion and the Plasmacaster can be set to auto-target.

#20 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

Predator has different Vision Modes as well speed and strength enough to match. Edwards feats are no where near 5+ tons that I seen from fighting clips.

#21 Posted by ghost_rider1 (3495 posts) - - Show Bio
@CadenceV2

Predator has different Vision Modes as well speed and strength enough to match. Edwards feats are no where near 5+ tons that I seen from fighting clips.

Edward pushed down a tree without much effort in the third movie. And stopped a car from hitting bella in the first. The car was slowing down but it was still moving fast enough to crush a human.
#22 Posted by LordOfAllHumans (4129 posts) - - Show Bio

@reikai said:

Predator can run and leap in front of a speeding sports car rather easily. Several times. And knock it off the road. Un-Blooded and "Young" Blood Yautja have an average strength class between 3 and 5 (that's tons). One shot from a plasmacaster can bring down a military grade helicopter and the smartdisc on average has a blade that vibrates at subsonic frequencies to give it even greater cutting power and can easily slice through flesh like a wet tissue. A Yautja's skin is almost bullet proof by itself. Small arms fire doing little more than pissing them off. Multiple shotgun blasts at mid-range to the abdomen weren't enough to put one down, just really enrage it. It was enough that the City Hunter needed to use its medical kit, though that was mostly for its missing hand. Un-Blooded trained by Dachande could kill dozens of Xenomorphs with a combistick through sheer martial skill. However, they didn't have the experience or the intelligence to get the hell out of the stampede before being overwhelmed by an army of the buggers. Also their helmets have various vision modes. Xenomorphs do not generate body heat and so Yautja have a mode that can specifically read the bio-signs of living things. Including various light wave frequencies and technology. So, saying a Predator can't see Edward is just silly. And even if Edward is a colder body, the Pred can still detect motion and the Plasmacaster can be set to auto-target.

It's not silly at all, Edward is not alive and will give off nothing that something that reads bio-signs will detect, he has no tech and if this is in the sunlight his body will reflect light, that should make it difficult to pinpoint anything based on light waves. This Predator has missed his first shot which gives Edward an advantage to just charge him and be done with it. Leaping in front of a speeding sports car is not impressive when these vamps can travel to other states faster than a sports car can reach city limits. Since we know from the OP that this Predator missed an unaware target I find it hard to believe his instruments will mean anything once the battle actually starts....Edward should still win.

#23 Posted by Nefarious (20282 posts) - - Show Bio

Edward beheads the youngling.

#24 Edited by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@ghost_rider1: Pretty good feats. How large was the tree? I pushed over dry 10 ton Pine Trees with a 6 ton Loader. I also seen the car feat. That is a 1 ton Car at its velocity of 4-5 ton force.

Edward is highly overrated IMO. More so with a Predator decked out on Molecular Edge Blades.

#25 Posted by reikai (4233 posts) - - Show Bio
@ghost_rider1 said:
Edward pushed down a tree without much effort in the third movie. And stopped a car from hitting bella in the first. The car was slowing down but it was still moving fast enough to crush a human.
And the Celtic Preds in AVP were smashing xenomorphs through several feet of solid concrete pillars and walls and could throw a spear with enough force to not only impale a person, but lift their body through the air and travel a good 5+ meters before nailing him to a wall.
 
Nvm they can rip a humans entire spinal column from the body in one move and have been shown to crush a persons skull on one hand, aside from breaking and ripping them in half at the waist.
 
@LordOfAllHumans said:

It's not silly at all, Edward is not alive and will give off nothing that something that reads bio-signs will detect, he has no tech and if this is in the sunlight his body will reflect light, that should make it difficult to pinpoint anything based on light waves. This Predator has missed his first shot which gives Edward an advantage to just charge him and be done with it. Leaping in front of a speeding sports car is not impressive when these vamps can travel to other states faster than a sports car can reach city limits. Since we know from the OP that this Predator missed an unaware target I find it hard to believe his instruments will mean anything once the battle actually starts....Edward should still win.

No, it's quite silly. Edward isn't Dead, his biological functions are just different from a humans. If he was Dead, he couldn't have children. And he will not have "No body heat". If he's colder than his surroundings than he'll show up just as well as if he were a warm-blooded creature because he's Moving. The reason why cold mud worked for Dutch was because it masked his body heat and blended in with the surrounding atmosphere, thus making him almost invisible to the infrared detection.
 
However, even without that the Pred can still target anything that moves. So it wouldn't matter if Edward is cold or not, if he moves he can be tracked. And Edward does not reflect light and even if he did that would just make him a visible light source which can be tracked easily.
 
Also, the Op didn't say the Pred missed, only that Edward is an unknown type of human. It makes no difference. Yautja travel to various planets throughout the galaxy, hunt and train and kill everything ranging from humanoid life forms to creatures resembling dinosaurs. Because that's what they do. That's how they Live.
 
Combat Synthetics with several times human strength levels couldn't overpower a Predator and had its arms torn off when trying to bearhug one and hold it off.
 
Oh and let's not forget Dutch's team strafing the jungle with multiple automatic weapons, gattling gun included, and didn't do anything more than graze the Predator's hip with one of thousands of rounds fired in its direction.
 
Yautja are also trained to move silently in their plate armor and equipment. Un-Blooded can move with barely the sound of their footfalls on wet ground. Blooded and Veterans can move without sound if they so wish. This is something that a Human, Machiko Noguchi, learned through experience by Living amongst the Yautja for over a year after being inducted into the clan after receiving the mark of Dachande, who recognized her as a skilled and worthy Hunter when she killed an Alien Queen. And he named her Dahdtoudi, "Small Knife".
 
Machiko would also become so skilled and athletic that Space Marines confused her with a high-grade combat synthetic because of the speed and agility at which she moved.
#26 Edited by LordOfAllHumans (4129 posts) - - Show Bio

@reikai said:

@ghost_rider1 said:
Edward pushed down a tree without much effort in the third movie. And stopped a car from hitting bella in the first. The car was slowing down but it was still moving fast enough to crush a human.
And the Celtic Preds in AVP were smashing xenomorphs through several feet of solid concrete pillars and walls and could throw a spear with enough force to not only impale a person, but lift their body through the air and travel a good 5+ meters before nailing him to a wall.

Nvm they can rip a humans entire spinal column from the body in one move and have been shown to crush a persons skull on one hand, aside from breaking and ripping them in half at the waist.

@LordOfAllHumans said:

It's not silly at all, Edward is not alive and will give off nothing that something that reads bio-signs will detect, he has no tech and if this is in the sunlight his body will reflect light, that should make it difficult to pinpoint anything based on light waves. This Predator has missed his first shot which gives Edward an advantage to just charge him and be done with it. Leaping in front of a speeding sports car is not impressive when these vamps can travel to other states faster than a sports car can reach city limits. Since we know from the OP that this Predator missed an unaware target I find it hard to believe his instruments will mean anything once the battle actually starts....Edward should still win.

No, it's quite silly. Edward isn't Dead, his biological functions are just different from a humans. If he was Dead, he couldn't have children. And he will not have "No body heat". If he's colder than his surroundings than he'll show up just as well as if he were a warm-blooded creature because he's Moving. The reason why cold mud worked for Dutch was because it masked his body heat and blended in with the surrounding atmosphere, thus making him almost invisible to the infrared detection. However, even without that the Pred can still target anything that moves. So it wouldn't matter if Edward is cold or not, if he moves he can be tracked. And Edward does not reflect light and even if he did that would just make him a visible light source which can be tracked easily. Also, the Op didn't say the Pred missed, only that Edward is an unknown type of human. It makes no difference. Yautja travel to various planets throughout the galaxy, hunt and train and kill everything ranging from humanoid life forms to creatures resembling dinosaurs. Because that's what they do. That's how they Live. Combat Synthetics with several times human strength levels couldn't overpower a Predator and had its arms torn off when trying to bearhug one and hold it off. Oh and let's not forget Dutch's team strafing the jungle with multiple automatic weapons, gattling gun included, and didn't do anything more than graze the Predator's hip with one of thousands of rounds fired in its direction. Yautja are also trained to move silently in their plate armor and equipment. Un-Blooded can move with barely the sound of their footfalls on wet ground. Blooded and Veterans can move without sound if they so wish. This is something that a Human, Machiko Noguchi, learned through experience by Living amongst the Yautja for over a year after being inducted into the clan after receiving the mark of Dachande, who recognized her as a skilled and worthy Hunter when she killed an Alien Queen. And he named her Dahdtoudi, "Small Knife". Machiko would also become so skilled and athletic that Space Marines confused her with a high-grade combat synthetic because of the speed and agility at which she moved.

He is not alive which is why vamps getting humans preggers is a mystery even to the vamps of his universe. They have no bodily functions they don't breath, eat, sleep, digest or anything else that living beings do they are sustained by their venom. His body is cold like a statue and would be the same temp as the surroundings making him blend in. How does he sparkle in the sun if he doesn't reflect light?

I fail to see who these feats make him a match for Edward. Moving without sound depends on the level of sound that can be detected. Edward has superhuman senses, no amount a stealth should protect the Pred from being heard. They can hear sounds miles away and can heart beats as well as have the ability to tracke via smell. Even though he is not on a stealth mission, he initiated a fight by firing a shot and as the OP states it was dodged which means he missed even with all his trainging and targetting equipment. I will not argue who is faster when these vamps can scale mountains in seconds

#27 Posted by Sylvain (1640 posts) - - Show Bio

Edward

#28 Posted by LordOfAllHumans (4129 posts) - - Show Bio

@CadenceV2 said:

@ghost_rider1: Pretty good feats. How large was the tree? I pushed over dry 10 ton Pine Trees with a 6 ton Loader. I also seen the car feat. That is a 1 ton Car at its velocity of 4-5 ton force.

Edward is highly overrated IMO. More so with a Predator decked out on Molecular Edge Blades.

Edward is not overrated, it's just a trend for people to place him battles with hopes he will be stomped while not realizing that he is not a pushover due to the nature of his particular brand of vampirism. That Predator will never get to use those blades regardless of the damage they can inflict, the battle starts with Edward dodging his first attack which kind of sets up the premise that Edwards speed is greater than the Predators and his techs speed, since he was able to dodge an attack even though the attacker had the advantage of stealth in the beginning.

#29 Posted by reikai (4233 posts) - - Show Bio
@LordOfAllHumans said:

He is not alive which is why vamps getting humans preggers is a mystery even to the vamps of this universe. They have no bodily functions they don't breath, eat, sleep, digest or anything else that living beings do they are sustained by their venom. His body is cold like a statue and would be the same temp as the surroundings making him blend in.

"Cold as a statue" can make him colder than his surroundings, which makes him visible. Regardless, as I said, they have vision modes to deal with this regardless and can just as easily track movement.
 

How does he sparkle in the sun if he doesn't reflect light?

Like all strippers do; with body glitter.
 

I fail to see who these feats make him a match for Edward. Moving without sound depends on the level of sound that can be detected. Edward has superhuman senses, no amount a stealth should protect the Pred from being heard

Yautja deal with and hunt inhuman creatures regularly. And Xenomorphs don't have eyes.
 

Even though he is not on a stealth mission, he initiated a fight by firing a shot and as the OP states it was dodged which means he missed even with all his trainging and targetting equipment. I will not argue who is faster when these vamps can scale mountains in seconds

It only means that he was momentarily surprised. Which means the Yautja will have adjusted and adapted so it doesn't happen again. This was evident in their training in "Predators". The smarter the prey, the more they adapt.
  
  Arrogance is generally the undoing of the Young. But getting within striking distance of a Yautja is pure folly. Ed has no way to stop their blades and they're rip through him like a ragdoll.
 
And there's something to always note. There is never just One Predator. Certainly, he may be hunting alone, but the Clan is always watching. In the "Concrete Jungle" novel, there were Dozens of Predator ships just sitting cloaked over Chicago. A number of young took turns going after Dutch's brother, and followed him from Chicago to Vietnam.
  
  Nvm that, worst comes to worst, everything dies. It'll nuke a city if it means erasing every shred of evidence that it was even there.
#30 Posted by Frocharocha (2281 posts) - - Show Bio

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@reikai said:

Predator can run and leap in front of a speeding sports car rather easily. Several times. And knock it off the road. Un-Blooded and "Young" Blood Yautja have an average strength class between 3 and 5 (that's tons). One shot from a plasmacaster can bring down a military grade helicopter and the smartdisc on average has a blade that vibrates at subsonic frequencies to give it even greater cutting power and can easily slice through flesh like a wet tissue. A Yautja's skin is almost bullet proof by itself. Small arms fire doing little more than pissing them off. Multiple shotgun blasts at mid-range to the abdomen weren't enough to put one down, just really enrage it. It was enough that the City Hunter needed to use its medical kit, though that was mostly for its missing hand. Un-Blooded trained by Dachande could kill dozens of Xenomorphs with a combistick through sheer martial skill. However, they didn't have the experience or the intelligence to get the hell out of the stampede before being overwhelmed by an army of the buggers. Also their helmets have various vision modes. Xenomorphs do not generate body heat and so Yautja have a mode that can specifically read the bio-signs of living things. Including various light wave frequencies and technology. So, saying a Predator can't see Edward is just silly. And even if Edward is a colder body, the Pred can still detect motion and the Plasmacaster can be set to auto-target.

It's not silly at all, Edward is not alive and will give off nothing that something that reads bio-signs will detect, he has no tech and if this is in the sunlight his body will reflect light, that should make it difficult to pinpoint anything based on light waves. This Predator has missed his first shot which gives Edward an advantage to just charge him and be done with it. Leaping in front of a speeding sports car is not impressive when these vamps can travel to other states faster than a sports car can reach city limits. Since we know from the OP that this Predator missed an unaware target I find it hard to believe his instruments will mean anything once the battle actually starts....Edward should still win.

Actually he sensed he was being watched, that's why he was able to dodge the shoot. otherwise he would be dead.

#31 Posted by wkar (205 posts) - - Show Bio

EC FTW

#32 Posted by nick_hero22 (6868 posts) - - Show Bio

The Predator doesn't have to use infrared to track Edward Cullen since his helmet is capable of seeing in multiple spectrums such as UV, EM, and etc. along with having sound amplifiers.

#33 Posted by ghost_rider1 (3495 posts) - - Show Bio
@CadenceV2

@ghost_rider1: Pretty good feats. How large was the tree? I pushed over dry 10 ton Pine Trees with a 6 ton Loader. I also seen the car feat. That is a 1 ton Car at its velocity of 4-5 ton force.

Edward is highly overrated IMO. More so with a Predator decked out on Molecular Edge Blades.

Edward isn't overrated....the way the vamps from the twilight universe are created makes them more formidable and dangerous than any other vamps. They have no weaknesses. And these vamps run across states like its nothing. The tree to my knowledge was big and sturdy. He simply pushed it and it came up from its roots and fell over. And strength isn't much of a factor when the predator doesn't have the speed to track edward movements
#34 Posted by ghost_rider1 (3495 posts) - - Show Bio
@reikai

Its simple why a predator would be no match for edward. Normal humans have fought and killed predators in the past. In the latest movie some chinese guy stalemated a predator in a blade fight and they killed each other. If a human can fight with no weapons and pose a threat to predator. What chance in hell does a predator have against a twilight vamp......none whatsoever
#35 Posted by reikai (4233 posts) - - Show Bio
@ghost_rider1 said:
Edward isn't overrated....the way the vamps from the twilight universe are created makes them more formidable and dangerous than any other vamps. They have no weaknesses. And these vamps run across states like its nothing.
I'm sorry, but 95% of all other vampires in fiction would like to have a word with you.
 
Akabara Strauss for one.
    
#36 Posted by ghost_rider1 (3495 posts) - - Show Bio
@reikai
@ghost_rider1 said:
Edward isn't overrated....the way the vamps from the twilight universe are created makes them more formidable and dangerous than any other vamps. They have no weaknesses. And these vamps run across states like its nothing.
I'm sorry, but 95% of all other vampires in fiction would like to have a word with you.
 
Akabara Strauss for one.
I wasn't referring to anime
#37 Posted by reikai (4233 posts) - - Show Bio
@ghost_rider1 said:
I wasn't referring to anime
That's a Manga. But I digress. You must've meant Games then.
#38 Posted by Rumble Man (11119 posts) - - Show Bio

@ghost_rider1 said:

Edward isn't overrated....the way the vamps from the twilight universe are created makes them more formidable and dangerous than any other vamps. They have no weaknesses. And these vamps run across states like its nothing.

Nope

Until ed can swallow the sun and the moon and shake the alignments of planets then he can claim that

the Varcolac sh!ts on TWverse

#39 Posted by xlab3000 (3275 posts) - - Show Bio

Predator

#40 Edited by LordOfAllHumans (4129 posts) - - Show Bio

@nick_hero22: @Frocharocha: @reikai:

I still don't see the pred winning.

Even if him sensing the attack is why he was able to dodge it, he sill used his speed to dodge and now you are confirming that in this battle Edwards powers allowing him to sense when the Pred is going to attack which adds to his ability to win this fight.

Forks is basically in winter mode all the time, his body will be the same temp as anything in that area that is non-living and does not have a heat source, he has no bio signs as his organs don't work. How exactly will UV and EM scanns be useful. As a cold dead thing without any electrical singals in his body EM won't help much and I don't see the usefulness of UV either. Sound amplifiiers? Wouldn't that work best if you were dealing with a target that was trying to sneak around and has a heartbeat? How effective would that be against an attacking opponent that is running around at blur speed?

How will the Pred adapt? Once he shoots and misses Edwards speed will compliment his near invisibility as far as the Pred is concerned and he is hit hard. I doubt even fully armored he is so heavy that Edward won't send him flying several feet, now he is lying on his back, his target out of his view, yet the target knows full well where the pred is. Push comes to shove the intial attack causes Edward to attack, the way they attack wolves, he shows up behind him and crushes him to death, before he can do anything up to and including setting off a nuke.

Edward wins, he's faster, stronger, more durable and now can sense when the Pred will attack I can only guess through telepathy.

#41 Edited by nick_hero22 (6868 posts) - - Show Bio

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@nick_hero22: @Frocharocha: @reikai:

I still don't see the pred winning.

Even if him sensing the attack is why he was able to dodge it, he sill used his speed to dodge and now you are confirming that in this battle Edwards powers allowing him to sense when the Pred is going to attack which adds to his ability to win this fight.

Forks is basically in winter mode all the time, his body will be the same temp as anything in that area that is non-living and does not have a heat source, he has no bio signs as his organs don't work. How exactly will UV and EM scanns be useful. As a cold dead thing without any electrical singals in his body EM won't help much and I don't see the usefulness of UV either. Sound amplifiiers? Wouldn't that work best if you were dealing with a target that was trying to sneak around and has a heartbeat? How effective would that be against an attacking opponent that is running around at blur speed?

How will the Pred adapt? Once he shoots and misses Edwards speed will compliment his near invisibility as far as the Pred is concerned and he is hit hard. I doubt even fully armored he is so heavy that Edward won't send him flying several feet, now he is lying on his back, his target out of his view, yet the target knows full well where the pred is. Push comes to shove the intial attack causes Edward to attack, the way they attack wolves, he shows up behind him and crushes him to death, before he can do anything up to and including setting off a nuke.

Edward wins, he's faster, stronger, more durable and now can sense when the Pred will attack I can only guess through telepathy.

Google what UV and EM is, but I do agree with majority of what is stated here. If this was an Elite Hunter or Veteran though, then I could see a decent case being made for the Predator. I do believe that Edward has a distinct advantage in terms of speed due to his superhuman stats and precognition, I would have to disagree about him being much stronger especially when the Predators has several different strength feats that are on par with some of Edwards showings or could potentially be better in comparison to what we have seen from Edward.

#42 Edited by LordOfAllHumans (4129 posts) - - Show Bio

@nick_hero22 said:

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@nick_hero22: @Frocharocha: @reikai:

I still don't see the pred winning.

Even if him sensing the attack is why he was able to dodge it, he sill used his speed to dodge and now you are confirming that in this battle Edwards powers allowing him to sense when the Pred is going to attack which adds to his ability to win this fight.

Forks is basically in winter mode all the time, his body will be the same temp as anything in that area that is non-living and does not have a heat source, he has no bio signs as his organs don't work. How exactly will UV and EM scanns be useful. As a cold dead thing without any electrical singals in his body EM won't help much and I don't see the usefulness of UV either. Sound amplifiiers? Wouldn't that work best if you were dealing with a target that was trying to sneak around and has a heartbeat? How effective would that be against an attacking opponent that is running around at blur speed?

How will the Pred adapt? Once he shoots and misses Edwards speed will compliment his near invisibility as far as the Pred is concerned and he is hit hard. I doubt even fully armored he is so heavy that Edward won't send him flying several feet, now he is lying on his back, his target out of his view, yet the target knows full well where the pred is. Push comes to shove the intial attack causes Edward to attack, the way they attack wolves, he shows up behind him and crushes him to death, before he can do anything up to and including setting off a nuke.

Edward wins, he's faster, stronger, more durable and now can sense when the Pred will attack I can only guess through telepathy.

Google what UV and EM is.

Maybe you should google it that way you'd know that UV is part of the EM spectrum, making it redundant to use them both. Him having "EM" scanners suggest he can scan everything along the EM field. All that aside I still don't see how that makes a difference. Let's say by some miracle he can see Edward, then what? He'd only be able to see him while he is standing still, the battle starts with Edward in motion so him seeing him regardless of sensors is not happening due to speed. He can't tag him as evidenced by his first failed attempt and even if that wasn't part of the OP I doubt he could tag him anyway, he is not stronger than him and now according to the creator of the OP the reason he had time to evade being hit is because he sensed the attack before it happened which would suggest his telepathy is at play in this battle regardless of language and alien brain.

Edward wins

#43 Posted by reikai (4233 posts) - - Show Bio

So you're whole claim is Ed wins because the Op made him surprise-dodge the first shot that everyone is aware would've killed Ed had it hit? Really, what nonsense.
 
Already established he can track Ed, and that the Plasmacaster can be set to auto-track and fire at him. Ed's only option is to run and dodge. Trying to get in close for melee just means one dead eviscerated vampire Boy.
 
Now here's the real kicker you need to ask;
 

Is it a Male or Female Predator?

That question alone determines if we're gonna see a fight, or bloody goddamn stomp with Ed's shredded, mutilated corpse littering the city streets.
#44 Posted by ghost_rider1 (3495 posts) - - Show Bio
@reikai
So you're whole claim is Ed wins because the Op made him surprise-dodge the first shot that everyone is aware would've killed Ed had it hit? Really, what nonsense.
 
Already established he can track Ed, and that the Plasmacaster can be set to auto-track and fire at him. Ed's only option is to run and dodge. Trying to get in close for melee just means one dead eviscerated vampire Boy.
 
Now here's the real kicker you need to ask;
 

Is it a Male or Female Predator?

That question alone determines if we're gonna see a fight, or bloody goddamn stomp with Ed's shredded, mutilated corpse littering the city streets.
No....how is a predator gonna kill edward if they have trouble with normal humans....u still never answered the question. A chinese guy killed a predator with nothing but a sword. U seriously trying to argue that a predator would beat a twilight vamp when humans can kill predators....explain this to me. Because humans could never kill a twilight vamp or give it a challenge
#45 Edited by LordOfAllHumans (4129 posts) - - Show Bio

@reikai said:

So you're whole claim is Ed wins because the Op made him surprise-dodge the first shot that everyone is aware would've killed Ed had it hit? Really, what nonsense.

Already established he can track Ed, and that the Plasmacaster can be set to auto-track and fire at him. Ed's only option is to run and dodge. Trying to get in close for melee just means one dead eviscerated vampire Boy.

Now here's the real kicker you need to ask;

Is it a Male or Female Predator?

That question alone determines if we're gonna see a fight, or bloody goddamn stomp with Ed's shredded, mutilated corpse littering the city streets.

He didn't make him surprise dodge, he said he sensed it, no suprise there. Not to mention plasma blasts usually make sound, his hearing would alert him making it entirely avoidable with his speed regardless.

Where has it been established he can track him especially with his speed? You haven't established him being able to get a good visual on him standing still with his sensors let alone keep tabs on him while he is moving.

I don't care if it's a pre-op transgendered Predator, nothing suggest they have the speed to tag him or the strength to over power him or the durability to tank hits from Ed unphased. The missed shot just makes this eaiser for Ed to retaliate and fling the Predator several feet or even just sneak up from behind and crush it to death.

#46 Edited by nick_hero22 (6868 posts) - - Show Bio

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@nick_hero22 said:

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@nick_hero22: @Frocharocha: @reikai:

I still don't see the pred winning.

Even if him sensing the attack is why he was able to dodge it, he sill used his speed to dodge and now you are confirming that in this battle Edwards powers allowing him to sense when the Pred is going to attack which adds to his ability to win this fight.

Forks is basically in winter mode all the time, his body will be the same temp as anything in that area that is non-living and does not have a heat source, he has no bio signs as his organs don't work. How exactly will UV and EM scanns be useful. As a cold dead thing without any electrical singals in his body EM won't help much and I don't see the usefulness of UV either. Sound amplifiiers? Wouldn't that work best if you were dealing with a target that was trying to sneak around and has a heartbeat? How effective would that be against an attacking opponent that is running around at blur speed?

How will the Pred adapt? Once he shoots and misses Edwards speed will compliment his near invisibility as far as the Pred is concerned and he is hit hard. I doubt even fully armored he is so heavy that Edward won't send him flying several feet, now he is lying on his back, his target out of his view, yet the target knows full well where the pred is. Push comes to shove the intial attack causes Edward to attack, the way they attack wolves, he shows up behind him and crushes him to death, before he can do anything up to and including setting off a nuke.

Edward wins, he's faster, stronger, more durable and now can sense when the Pred will attack I can only guess through telepathy.

Google what UV and EM is.

Maybe you should google it that way you'd know that UV is part of the EM spectrum, making it redundant to use them both. Him having "EM" scanners suggest he can scan everything along the EM field. All that aside I still don't see how that makes a difference. Let's say by some miracle he can see Edward, then what? He'd only be able to see him while he is standing still, the battle starts with Edward in motion so him seeing him regardless of sensors is not happening due to speed. He can't tag him as evidenced by his first failed attempt and even if that wasn't part of the OP I doubt he could tag him anyway, he is not stronger than him and now according to the creator of the OP the reason he had time to evade being hit is because he sensed the attack before it happened which would suggest his telepathy is at play in this battle regardless of language and alien brain.

Edward wins

1) I don't know if the Predator is capable of seeing in all the possible EM spectrums (Covers a Broad Range), but I do know he is capable of utilizing UV and many other types which is clearly displayed in the movie Predator 2. UV has to do with light and it's properties, so bring up body heat and temperature is pretty irrelevant since that hasn't nothing to do with Edward masking himself from light which isn't possible for him to accomplish.

2) The Predator has numerous reaction feats that contradict your statements regarding them being unable to see Edward visibly; Predators have been shown to side-step and dance around automatic gunfire at point-blank range, so forgive me if I have a hard time believing that Edward's speed is suppose to be this great obstacle, when in fact, Predators have been shown to easily maneuver out of the way of supersonic projectiles.

3) Edward Cullen isn't stronger either based off the information presented in this thread. Predators have been shown to easily dismember humans with their bare-hands, peel the armor plating off of a Panzer Tank, punch a vehicle off-road in a single hit, destroy a Scout Helicopter with punches, tear through the reinforced doors of a Medical Station, destroy a wall that was constructed out of heavy stone material by sending a Xenomorph flying into it with a causal backhand, and etc.

I do agree that Edward wins, but it isn't as one-sided as you are trying to make it.

#47 Posted by reikai (4233 posts) - - Show Bio
@ghost_rider1 said:
No....how is a predator gonna kill edward if they have trouble with normal humans....u still never answered the question. A chinese guy killed a predator with nothing but a sword. U seriously trying to argue that a predator would beat a twilight vamp when humans can kill predators....explain this to me. Because humans could never kill a twilight vamp or give it a challenge
Ah so Naive. What you're recalling is a Child who decided to face a trained Yakuza swordmaster on equal ground with a weapon of equivalent strength, because if it were anything stronger,, the guys sword would've snapped in half in the first move. You're also confusing Ability with Plot Maneuvering. 
 
I've seen enough humans kill vampires and Non-Force users kill Jedi. Plot dictating a few people pulling a win over Un-Blooded Yautja may be good for humans, but utterly meaningless in the long run. Same reason why Jason gets beaten by a bunch of damn kids instead of them all dying. Or why Freddy keeps getting sent back to Hell. It's the Plot.
 
Plot and Circumstance can Kill Anyone.
 
@LordOfAllHumans said:


He didn't make him surprise dodge, he said he sensed it, no suprise there. Not to mention plasma blasts usually make sound, his hearing would alert him making it entirely avoidable with his speed regardless.

Only if the bolt was slower than the sound of it firing. So without the sudden Plot Induced sense of Ed's to save his ass from the start, he'd be dead.
 

Where has it been established he can track him especially with his speed? You haven't established him being able to get a good visual on him standing still with his sensors let alone keep tabs on him while he is moving.

You keep spouting off about his speed, but it doesn't make him untrackable. Yautja often hunt creatures and beasts faster than themselves. Bigger too. It comes down to execution. Besides, Yautja have shown they can evade automatic fire, so they're not exactly slow lumbering brutes.
 They also don't like scientists trying to "examine" them.  Plus there was Scar who cut through a Xenomorph so fast it didn't have time to realize it was dead, and the two halves of its head stayed together for several seconds longer before falling apart.
 

I don't care if it's a pre-op transgendered Predator, nothing suggest they have the speed to tag him or the strength to over power him or the durability to tank hits from Ed unphased. The missed shot just makes this eaiser for Ed to retaliate and fling the Predator several feet or even just sneak up from behind and crush it to death.

You should do a bit more study. You take a Male and Female Yautja of the same Rank, the Female makes the Male look like a damn child and breaks him apart. That's the difference. 
 
Females are the true dominators of their society and they don't go on hunts with the Males because they'd completely show them up. Females are bigger, faster, stronger, and more vicious than the Males. During mating, the Males end up with broken bones and other injuries cause by the Females during the act. Dachande had even been thrown across a room by one of his mates He'd had 72 Offspring before he died.
 
Now, the idea that Ed can crush a Pred is outright laughable. If he tries to engage it in close quarters, Ed's just going to kill himself. He doesn't know what he's up against. He can't break its armor nor does he understand how strong it is. Nvm that the plasmacaster can auto-target and fire at him on its own.
 
You also forget that the Yautja has more than just wristblades and a plasmacaster. They do have hunting knives, the smartdisc which can lock onto multiple targets with its own internal targeting sensor and take them out. There's also the netgun that, if you've seen AVP, would know that if Ed gets stuck in it. He's dead. Period. As struggling would only make it tear through his flesh and turn him into dog food even faster.
 
Of course there's also the Speargun that fires telesopic spears at extreme velocity and crease no phenomena when fired that would allow anyone to triangulate its firing position. Then there's the combistick which is a telestopic speer that can have both blades and pointed tips at both ends And let's not forget the Wrist bomb that can be set which unleashes a plasma detonation powerful enough to level a city.
 
As I've noted before, they can track you across counties if they want to. And it's not like the helm just looks in various vision modes, it can zoom in on individuals, target multiple bodies, detect sounds at long distances and there is that Vocal Mimicry that allows them to record sounds and voices, either for learning or just to mock you with. Perhaps to differential one "Ooman" from the next. Btw, that means "Soft Meat".
#48 Posted by afueikawa (1092 posts) - - Show Bio

@nick_hero22 said:

3) Edward Cullen isn't stronger either based off the information presented in this thread. Predators have been shown to easily dismember humans with their bare-hands, peel the armor plating off of a Panzer Tank, punch a vehicle off-road in a single hit, destroy a Scout Helicopter with punches, tear through the reinforced doors of a Medical Station, destroy a wall that was constructed out of heavy stone material by sending a Xenomorph flying into it with a causal backhand, and etc.

I do agree that Edward wins, but it isn't as one-sided as you are trying to make it.

And that is showings of Predator strength, which is way stronger than this.

Look at his face trying to impress Bella, who is looking at it (and nearly LOLed) rather than to look on what he did.

This thing's face is more awesome. XD

#49 Posted by reikai (4233 posts) - - Show Bio
#50 Posted by afueikawa (1092 posts) - - Show Bio

Hidan is a better match for the Pred and way cooler than Sparkling crap.