#1 Posted by King Saturn (225174 posts) - - Show Bio
Can Eclipso defeat Thanos in a random encounter battle ?

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#2 Edited by Lunacyde (19523 posts) - - Show Bio

Eclipso...

Unless there is prep time perhaps

#3 Posted by King Saturn (225174 posts) - - Show Bio
I dont know...Eclipso is indeed powerful but I dont know if he is as strong as the Spectre as some have said... I think Thanos could give him hell here
#4 Posted by Ball Buster (2041 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Thanos ftw.

#5 Posted by lordraiden (7616 posts) - - Show Bio

You kidding me? Thanos>Eclispo anyday, prep or no prep!

#6 Posted by SeSAW (3677 posts) - - Show Bio
lordraiden said:
"You kidding me? Thanos>Eclispo anyday, prep or no prep!"
Exactly
#7 Posted by Fresh Prince (5226 posts) - - Show Bio

thanos

#8 Posted by Supreme Titans (4 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"I dont know...Eclipso is indeed powerful but I dont know if he is as strong as the Spectre as some have said... I think Thanos could give him hell here
"
Eclipso is as strong as Spectre 'can' be. I give my vote to Eclipso.

What level is Eclipso by the way? Normal, high or full form?
#9 Posted by Lunacyde (19523 posts) - - Show Bio
lordraiden said:
"You kidding me? Thanos>Eclispo anyday, prep or no prep!"
You must be joking. Eclipso is an exact twin of Spectre powers wise.
#10 Posted by SeSAW (3677 posts) - - Show Bio
Lunacyde said:
"lordraiden said:
"You kidding me? Thanos>Eclispo anyday, prep or no prep!"
You must be joking. Eclipso is an exact twin of Spectre powers wise."

When was this stated or proved?
#11 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio
Lunacyde said:
"lordraiden said:
"You kidding me? Thanos>Eclispo anyday, prep or no prep!"
You must be joking. Eclipso is an exact twin of Spectre powers wise."
Not true, Spectre could annihilate Eclipso any day of the week. Only when Eclipso receives a power boost, like the heart of darkness armour in the countdown to mystery, can he match the Spectre.
#12 Posted by King Saturn (225174 posts) - - Show Bio
I think Eclipso is being underestimated here. He may not be as strong as the Spectre but he has to be near Thanos in terms of raw power... and if this is not so I need to see some proof
#13 Posted by King Saturn (225174 posts) - - Show Bio
AtPhantom said:
"Well Darkseid was shown to be more powerful than Eclipso and is immune to his corrupting powers. But considering Darkseid had a part in Eclipso's creation and is the one who forged the black diamond... i don't know how that would go against Thanos."
Was this Pre Crisis Darkseid ?
#14 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio

Well Darkseid was shown to be more powerful than Eclipso and immune to his corrupting powers, but considering he had a part in Eclipso's creation, and that he was the one who forged the black diamond, i don't know how that would go against Thanos.

And i didn't say Eclipso wasn't powerful, he is, very, just nowhere near Spectre' level.

#15 Posted by King Saturn (225174 posts) - - Show Bio
AtPhantom said:
"Well Darkseid was shown to be more powerful than Eclipso and immune to his corrupting powers, but considering he had a part in Eclipso's creation, and that he was the one who forged the black diamond, i don't know how that would go against Thanos.

And i didn't say Eclipso wasn't powerful, he is, very, just nowhere near Spectre' level."
Ah Huh...but when did Darkseid show to be more powerful than Eclipso ? Was it before the Crisis on Infinite Earths ? Was this Pre Crisis Darkseid who had done this feat ?
#16 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio

No, it was in countdown to mystery, a tie-in to countdown to final crisis, i could post scans if you like. it also says there that he created Eclipso.

#17 Posted by King Saturn (225174 posts) - - Show Bio
AtPhantom said:
"No, it was in countdown to mystery, a tie-in to countdown to final crisis, i could post scans if you like. it also says there that he created Eclipso."
Oh I See...
#18 Posted by SeSAW (3677 posts) - - Show Bio

I would place Despero above Eclipso from what ive seen of him normally and neither of them are on Darkseids level who is comparable to Thanos.

#19 Posted by King Saturn (225174 posts) - - Show Bio
SeSAW said:
"I would place Despero above Eclipso from what ive seen of him normally and neither of them are on Darkseids level who is comparable to Thanos."
Eclipso is that weak ? He has to have some high level of magical power
#20 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio

Well he is very powerful. I think he could beat despero. He was capable of overcoming the whole shadowpact (though that isn't saying much) and throughout the day of vengeance he was immune to any physical harm. Black Adam broke his(her) neck, she smiled. Blue Devil pierced her with his trident, as soon as it was removed, she was back on her feet. Ragman tried to consume her, she burned out his suit. The Spectre is the unstoppable force in dcu, but eclipso himself is pretty powerful, indestructable at least to the lower tier magic users.

#21 Posted by King Saturn (225174 posts) - - Show Bio
AtPhantom said:
"Well he is very powerful. I think he could beat despero. He was capable of overcoming the whole shadowpact (though that isn't saying much) and throughout the day of vengeance he was immune to any physical harm. Black Adam broke his(her) neck, she smiled. Blue Devil pierced her with his trident, as soon as it was removed, she was back on her feet. Ragman tried to consume her, she burned out his suit. The Spectre is the unstoppable force in dcu, but eclipso himself is pretty powerful, indestructable at least to the lower tier magic users."
Well I plan of doing some Comic Book Shopping today... I will really be looking for the Countdown To Mystery series to see what exactly is up here with Eclipso
#22 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"AtPhantom said:
"Well he is very powerful. I think he could beat despero. He was capable of overcoming the whole shadowpact (though that isn't saying much) and throughout the day of vengeance he was immune to any physical harm. Black Adam broke his(her) neck, she smiled. Blue Devil pierced her with his trident, as soon as it was removed, she was back on her feet. Ragman tried to consume her, she burned out his suit. The Spectre is the unstoppable force in dcu, but eclipso himself is pretty powerful, indestructable at least to the lower tier magic users."
Well I plan of doing some Comic Book Shopping today... I will really be looking for the Countdown To Mystery series to see what exactly is up here with Eclipso"
It's pretty good, one half talks about Eclipso and Spectre and the other about the new Doctor Fate. Both are worth reading.
#23 Posted by King Saturn (225174 posts) - - Show Bio
AtPhantom said:
"King Saturn said:
"AtPhantom said:
"Well he is very powerful. I think he could beat despero. He was capable of overcoming the whole shadowpact (though that isn't saying much) and throughout the day of vengeance he was immune to any physical harm. Black Adam broke his(her) neck, she smiled. Blue Devil pierced her with his trident, as soon as it was removed, she was back on her feet. Ragman tried to consume her, she burned out his suit. The Spectre is the unstoppable force in dcu, but eclipso himself is pretty powerful, indestructable at least to the lower tier magic users."
Well I plan of doing some Comic Book Shopping today... I will really be looking for the Countdown To Mystery series to see what exactly is up here with Eclipso"
It's pretty good, one half talks about Eclipso and Spectre and the other about the new Doctor Fate. Both are worth reading."
Oh I See... Very Cool Then
#24 Edited by lol (5388 posts) - - Show Bio

bump

#25 Posted by Joygirl (19955 posts) - - Show Bio

Mmm... from what little I know of both; Thanos.

#26 Posted by DemonKnights (5394 posts) - - Show Bio

@lol: why did u bump 2 of the same threa?

#27 Posted by Bane_of_sith (2796 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos wins

#28 Edited by Kazuma_Bushi (1014 posts) - - Show Bio

Just to get the ball rolling, here are some of Eclipso's feats.

In above scans he killed the Spectre, absorbed his powers and sliced the moon in half. This all happened in JLA #57.

#29 Posted by DemonKnights (5394 posts) - - Show Bio

Eclipso. Based off of those scans

#30 Edited by TehStranger (878 posts) - - Show Bio

@kazuma_bushi: Wasn't Eclipso able to "kill" The Spectre only after he had the Spear of Destiny?

Anyways I say Thanos would win

Daekseid was able to wreck Eclipso, and Darkseid and Thanos are about the same powerful, so while I don't like using ABC logic I'll say that since Darkseid was able to beat Eclipso, Thanos should be able too as well.

#31 Posted by Kazuma_Bushi (1014 posts) - - Show Bio

@kazuma_bushi: Wasn't Eclipso able to kill The Spectre only after he had the Spear of Destiny?

Anyways I say Thanos would win

Daekseid was able to wreck Eclipso, and Darkseid and Thanos are about the same powerful, so while I don't like using ABC logic I'll say that since Darkseid was able to beat Eclipso, Thanos should be able too as well.

Honestly I'm not sure. This fight depends on which version of Eclipso is being used. Eclipso's power is very inconsistent. The one in those images is the Jean Loring version, which based off the images in the OP, I don't assume is being used.

#32 Edited by WillPayton (9829 posts) - - Show Bio

Just to get the ball rolling, here are some of Eclipso's feats.

In above scans he killed the Spectre, absorbed his powers and sliced the moon in half. This all happened in JLA #57.

Hold on there... didnt Eclipso absorb the Starheart before he was able to do this?

No way Eclipso can do this without a serious amp.

#33 Edited by Kazuma_Bushi (1014 posts) - - Show Bio

@kazuma_bushi said:

Just to get the ball rolling, here are some of Eclipso's feats.

In above scans he killed the Spectre, absorbed his powers and sliced the moon in half. This all happened in JLA #57.

Hold on there... didnt Eclipso absorb the Starheart before he was able to do this?

No way Eclipso can do this without a serious amp.

I believe so, which is also why I stated the version of Eclipso being used should be specified. If it's this version I think he wins.

#34 Posted by leonkarlen123 (5638 posts) - - Show Bio

Eclipso had the power to defeat The Spectre. Thanos can only dream about doing that.

#35 Edited by Easternwind (3894 posts) - - Show Bio

@leonkarlen123 said:

Eclipso had the power to defeat The Spectre. Thanos can only dream about doing that.

He was amped IIRC

#36 Posted by Van_Cere (2338 posts) - - Show Bio

amped, though by a sky father level force that is the green flame. does not seem to help much.

#37 Posted by jas0 (403 posts) - - Show Bio

@van_cere: What? The magic of the Starheart is one of the most powerful things in the DCU, he only did this by absorbing the starheart.

#38 Posted by lordraiden (7616 posts) - - Show Bio

Eclipso had the power to defeat The Spectre. Thanos can only dream about doing that.

They why hasn't he defeated the Spectre straight up with out any aids or power ups??

#39 Posted by BEYONDERGOD (1641 posts) - - Show Bio

Moon Buster Eclipso.

#40 Posted by Van_Cere (2338 posts) - - Show Bio

@jas0: The full power Starheart feats but it at about above thanos level. You should read more and say less.

Your claim has absolutely no feats to back it up. Nor can you find any.

#41 Posted by The_Titan_Lord (7084 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos

#42 Posted by jas0 (403 posts) - - Show Bio

@van_cere: I didn't get what you have said. You want me to prove that the Starheart is one of the top magical forces in the DCU? I was just arguing that Eclipso only defeated Spectre because of the Starheart, without it, it'd be impossible. Your first post was ambiguous, I don't know if you said that the Starheart didn't help him, or the feat with the Starheart is nothing impressive.

#43 Posted by Van_Cere (2338 posts) - - Show Bio

@jas0: @van_cere: What? The magic of the Starheart is one of the most powerful things in the DCU, he only did this by absorbing the starheart.

Do not eat your own words, you were arguing that the starheart was one of the most powerful forces in DC which it is not.

Do you even know which spectre that was? He absorbed it then slashed a hostess spectre who just got out of his host, and was weak.

And yes, prove that it is one of the 'most powerful forces in DC'

#44 Edited by jas0 (403 posts) - - Show Bio

@van_cere: Defating Spectre, in any form, is a high feat, from what I've read, Eclipso used the power of the starheart to stop the connection between the Presence and The Spectre, and then, killing him.

The Full Starheart caused Alan to solo the DC earth, he was also able to mentally control Dr Fate.

The only way to kill Alan is draining the Starheart, he's almost invunerable to physical harm.

I've only got those ones today, I won't have time tomorrow, so I'll post more on Saturday.

#45 Posted by Frisky4 (2148 posts) - - Show Bio

Eclipso takes on the Spectre repeatedly. He's on a DBZ level of planet breaking. Yeah, he beats Thanos.

#46 Posted by ancient_god (434 posts) - - Show Bio

Asuming none of boths is amped Thanos

#47 Posted by MasterKungFu (2865 posts) - - Show Bio

eclipso

#48 Posted by NotATreeABush (1408 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanman

#49 Posted by Frisky4 (2148 posts) - - Show Bio

Still Eclipso.

#50 Posted by lordraiden (7616 posts) - - Show Bio

Just to get the ball rolling, here are some of Eclipso's feats.

In above scans he killed the Spectre, absorbed his powers and sliced the moon in half. This all happened in JLA #57.

going by the op, this a random encounter with no power ups, standard characters/equip, that is a powered up Eclipso, I believe. Eclipso was never that powerfull on his own, heck, I remember him and DS playing chess on the moon in Eclipso's hide out in his own series!

I stand by my original statement, standard equip no power ups, I still think Thanos takes this.