#1 Posted by buttersdaman000 (9726 posts) - - Show Bio

who wins in this epic battle?
fight takes place right outside of hogwarts grounds and this is a friendly but serious battle.
both characters are in thier prime soooo who wins?

#2 Posted by Akwa (4821 posts) - - Show Bio

I would say Zatanna. Unless Dumbledore has the Elder Wand. He might be able to take her with that.

#3 Posted by buttersdaman000 (9726 posts) - - Show Bio

i meant in his prime when he does have it, he took it after he beat grindenwald.

#4 Posted by Akwa (4821 posts) - - Show Bio

Then I don't know. Zatanna is powerful but doesn't the Elder Wand make it's rightful bearer invincible in magical combat?

Snape was only able to kill Dumbledore because big D wanted him to. It was all part of his master plan.

#5 Posted by buttersdaman000 (9726 posts) - - Show Bio

i dont know either, this one is hard for me........ill wait for more opinions

#6 Edited by Mortein (2895 posts) - - Show Bio

well I dont think we have seen more than few % of Dumbeldores powers. that's way Ill go with Dumbledore on this one

#7 Posted by randumo24 (4654 posts) - - Show Bio

Dumbledore is the most powerful character in the HP universe, I say he wins.

#8 Posted by Kingjohnrocks (1995 posts) - - Show Bio

Dumbledore.

1. He has defensive charms.

2. He can cast Langlock on Ventress which prevents her from speaking, thus rendering her magic useless.

Just by Langlock, he'd win. I love Zatanna, but without speaking she can't do anything.

#9 Posted by Rumble Man (11119 posts) - - Show Bio

erodelbmud skcus

#10 Posted by Kingjohnrocks (1995 posts) - - Show Bio

@Rumble Man said:

erodelbmud skcus

As she's saying that he can use Langlock to prevent her from saying further.

#11 Posted by Rumble Man (11119 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kingjohnrocks: He's gonna suck that wand of his then, her words move reality whereas HP wizards (at least in movies) need energy blasts

#12 Posted by Kingjohnrocks (1995 posts) - - Show Bio

@Rumble Man said:

@Kingjohnrocks: He's gonna suck that wand of his then, her words move reality whereas HP wizards (at least in movies) need energy blasts

Dumbledore does not need blasts of energy to do Langlock. I mean, all he needs to do is point his wand at her and say "Langlock!" and it's over for her.

#13 Edited by Kingjohnrocks (1995 posts) - - Show Bio

Langlock:

"Harry aimed his wand at Peeves and said, "Langlock!" Peeves clutched at his throat, gulped, then swooped from the room making obscene gestures but unable to speak, owing to the fact that his tongue had just glued itself to the roof of his mouth."

-Taken from: Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince

No need for a blast of energy

#14 Posted by Rumble Man (11119 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kingjohnrocks said:

still need to raise wand, point and say 'langlock'

also she has done magic by 'writing' it down

#15 Posted by Kingjohnrocks (1995 posts) - - Show Bio

@Rumble Man said:

@Kingjohnrocks said:

still need to raise wand, point and say 'langlock'

also she has done magic by 'writing' it down

She won't have time to write if Langlock is done on her and she has no more power.

#16 Posted by Kablamicus (47 posts) - - Show Bio

Zatanna has been able to resist magic from Felix Faust, I'm pretty sure she could resist langlock.

#17 Posted by Kingjohnrocks (1995 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kablamicus said:

Zatanna has been able to resist magic from Felix Faust, I'm pretty sure she could resist langlock.

Can you show me her resisting a tounge spell? If not, then I have no reason to believe she can resist langlock

#18 Posted by Dextersinister (6138 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kingjohnrocks said:

@Rumble Man said:

@Kingjohnrocks said:

still need to raise wand, point and say 'langlock'

also she has done magic by 'writing' it down

She won't have time to write if Langlock is done on her and she has no more power.

Multiple point's against you here.

He doesn't know she cast's with word of mouth, your point is entirely dependent on him knowing exactly how to beat her.

Rumble man is correct he needs to both direct his wand at her and say the incantation, she merely needs to say the incantation.

and finally Zatanna has speed casting feat's from her own series so there is not a chance he will get a spell off before her.

#19 Posted by NeonGameWave (7782 posts) - - Show Bio

Zatanna wins.

#20 Posted by OmgOmgWtfWtf (7031 posts) - - Show Bio

Zantanna says 'Peels". Dumbledore goes, "what?" before falling asleep and slamming his head on the ground. Zantanna wins no effort. She faced foes much stronger than Dumbledore.

#21 Posted by Rumble Man (11119 posts) - - Show Bio

'Eid' sounds very nice

#22 Posted by The_Lunact_And_Manic (3286 posts) - - Show Bio

Zatanna.

#23 Posted by BlackWind (6334 posts) - - Show Bio

Zatanna is on a completely different level than Dumbledore and HP in general.

#24 Posted by tomlikesfries (4662 posts) - - Show Bio

Zatanna would easily win. All she'd have to do is say: "Doolb ot acoc-aloc"

#25 Posted by batsymyplaything (287 posts) - - Show Bio

If this a friendly fighting, then Dumbledore is in a duel position, since he knows him and Zantanna will be fighting soon. Thus, Dumbledore doesn't have to lift his arm and direct it to Zantanna, since it's already being pointed at her from the beginning. Another point is that HP wizards are able to cast their spell without saying them, which has been talked about in the 6th book, i think, and it's considered faster and it's strategically advantage to the wizards, who use such methods to cast their spells.

Now, I don't know much about Zantanna, but I did go over her CV wiki and it says she would have hard time beating wizards or magicians, who are higher leveled in magic then her. Can we really determine if Dumbledore with Elder wand is or isn't higher leveled than Zantanna, when it comes to magic power itself. I mean with the Elder wand, Dumbledore's magic is multiple by a factor of 2, i guess or more, I can't really quantify here. Plus, in her CV wiki, she hasn't reach her full potential yet, whereas Dumbledore has or surpassed his.