Dream of Endless vs COIE Antimonitor ( Full power )

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Dream of the Endless.

Dream, seriously you can't kill the Endless They are ideas, they aren't beings

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It's like saying I will kill the letter L

dream

As previously stated Morpheus and the rest of The Endless are truly abstract beings, representations of aspects of existence that cannot be destroyed for they are the ideas/concepts of said aspects.

Morpheus stomps.

Dream should win

Even though i agree on who wins, if you think about it, if you kill everything that has an idea the idea dies. :D

In other words, just stop believing in the idea itself.

Endless.

But Morpheus died, so they can be killed. They are beings.

Morpheus

Probably Morpheus IMO.

Dream

The sandman

@chimeroid: @traskindustries: Dream haven't died. Morpheus was a point of view. He himself had to ask his sister Death to claim that point of view. Morpheus ASKED to die.

Also, the Endless also personifies of the opposite. To destroy him completely you have to destroy dream and realities even then Dream has to wait for his sister to claim him.

So we've established that they can die. Also we've established that they are the avatars of emotions, and dreams and stuff. So if AM slags the multiverse, they have no power left because everyone has died.

Anti-Monitor should stomp, he had absorbed most of existence, Dream may be a powerful existential abstract but he can't possibly compete with someone packing existence it's self.

@traskindustries: No they can't die they are ideas.

You can kill everything but you can't kill an idea. Death of the Endless can kill ideas, concepts, abstracts beings and stuff.

AM isn't Death of the Endless

@dextersinister: Morpheus is also true Multiversal+ even outside his realm

@agentofchaos1: Death of the endless visited Marvel and took Dream there to see Marvel I guess

Is it canon? and I just read that it was only Death of the Endless, not Morpheus. Also how do the Endless compare to Lucifer or Michael?

@traskindustries:

They are created by Lucifer and Michael. So they are just a rank below Lucifer and Michael

Oh, so as their creators they must also have the power to undo them. Again, more proof that they can be killed.

He's not really an idea, more like an aspect of sentient existence. You can't just "stop believing" in dreaming, and then there's the fact that Morpheus doesn't strictly represent dreams-I always saw him as the representation of some kind of mass subconsciousness, that's why all stories lie in his domain.

Morpheus didn't really die. What died was an aspect of him, or like Abel put it, a point of view.

But still. If you kill everything that has a sub conscience he will seize to exist. Just like when flash outran death.

Anti-Monitor would have to kill himself, making the battle a draw. That's assuming Dream can't deal with him before he destroys every sentient being in existence.

It was agreed that Dream would win. I said so as well, i just debated on how Dream can be defeated. And i asked a question if Dream is multiversal. Because, simply put, COIE Antimonitor has destroyed universes and left them. If the Dream is universal that would mean he has destroyed multiple Dreams.

@chimeroid: A tiny fraction of Dreams power destroyed 60 billion universes and recreated 60 billion universes.

The Endless aren't universal, they are ideas of their names and the opposite of their names. They are incapable of being killed by being other then Death of the Endless

Dream already showed inferiority to the World Forger, a monitor on par with Mobius. During the introduction of Dark Knight's Barbatos, Dream was portrayed as a minor entity the entire time.

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Mobius=Alpheus>Barbatos>Dream.

@chimeroid:

Then what killed them?

Then what would have killed him? Surely the last being/person standing has dreams and ideas, and a subconscious.

You can kill any of the endless, but since they are personifications of ideas of basic elements of the universe they will just instantly be reborn elsewhere as themselves, and yet different. It's all metaphorical mumbo jumbo TBH, they shouldn't be used in battles.

@chimeroid:

I see. Just curious.

Dream

Any Endless > Monitors combined