Drax the Destroyer vs Winter Soldier (Movie versions)

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@teerack said:

I think Drax wins because his reflexes are just too quick.

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You win. I can't argue with that.

@frozen said:

@risingbean: Ronan punched him through metal walls. That's more than Bucky tanked.

Drax takes this in a walk.

Did he? I dunno. I'd still question if he can handle slashing damage. But I'll concede until we have more feats for him based on Teerack's spot on argument.

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#52 Lunacyde  Moderator

Bucky is far more skilled, but Drax is hella durable.

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#53  Edited By frozen  Moderator

To be fair, Drax's skill doesn't seem to be far from Red Skull's skill.

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#54 Lunacyde  Moderator

@frozen said:

To be fair, Drax's skill doesn't seem to be far from Red Skull's skill.

Which really wasn't anything close to Cap or Bucky's skilled level in WS.

I agree Drax wins, but it's on physicals alone.

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#55  Edited By frozen  Moderator

@lunacyde: Well, if the game TFA counts as canon, it was suggested Cap's skill was always at T.W.S level but to be fair, there was a massive difference in fight choreography so he clearly learned new martial-arts after The Avengers.

Anyways, yes I agree with you that Drax wins on physicals.

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@i_like_swords: And while Bucky is doing that, Drax is ripping him apart.

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Drax's skill level.

He wasn't a dancing ninja in the movie, but there were a couple shots that demonstrate a high level of skill. One of the first moves he pulls in the movie is to leap over a person's head and do a double scisors kick on some guys.

I think this is when he disarmed the guards and tossed the gun to Rocket?

Can anyone confirm?

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Also, i believe the strength will be a big factor as it was through grappling that Cap beat bucky in the helicarrier.

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#59  Edited By frozen  Moderator

@fortified_hooligan said:

Drax's skill level.

He wasn't a dancing ninja in the movie, but there were a couple shots that demonstrate a high level of skill. One of the first moves he pulls in the movie is to leap over a person's head and do a double scisors kick on some guys.

I think this is when he disarmed the guards and tossed the gun to Rocket?

Can anyone confirm?

Correct.

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Close battle. That said, Drax has demonstrated notable ability with said weapon. His strength I think slightly exceeds Bucky's, and his durability clearly exceeds Bucky's. That said he was nearly killed a couple of times in GotG, but those foes were far beyond Bucky. I'd say Drax 6/10. Take away the knives, and it's Drax 9/10.

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I'm not sure why people are thinking that knives being included in the fight favors bucky.

Drax was OBSESSED with knives in the movie. I actually had Drax pegged as a brawler in the previews, but he was all about the knife fighting.

That's his primary weapon of choice...

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ends in sex?

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Drax has blunt force tankabity to some degreee but no slashing or piercing tankability. Ws is faster more skilled and easily capable of taking down drax.

Soon as a movie come out everyine wanks those characters. Drax was somewhat laughable strength and skill wise in that movie.

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Bucky is far more skilled, but I think Drax can take this based on physicals alone.

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Wait, how are bullets ineffective, yet knives are?

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#67  Edited By hirev_starman

Drax the animal for the win here

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@masterofevil: basically there is no way in hell that drax could lose. He was created for the soal purpose of destroying thanos who is the badest of the bad. I believe the movie was inaccurate because there is no way ronin could even harm drax when drax has gone head to head with thanos and one of there fight actually iradicated a planet. Ronin wouldn't touch drax and neither could Bucky Barnes who is defeated by cap in many comics let's face it it's a hands down win for drax no matter what he does and if he can't beat him because he's too fast he would just destroy the planet therefor the atmosphere and if that happened winter soldier would just die of no air... Drax is a tank nothing can beat him accept ofc thanos who I believe to be one of the strongest and undefeated villains of all times drax is the only person to ever kill him and when he did mistress death just brought him back. Drax would woooop the winter soldier into a puddle of sludge

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Bucky wins easily .

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Drax would win

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Bucky.

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WS .

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How is Drax this weak.

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@frisky4 said:

How is Drax this weak.

He isn't weak , but he was shown to be vulnerable to sharp objects .

Bucky is an expert with the knife and he is way too fast for drax to tag him .

Drax dies with several stabs in his body .

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@frisky4 said:

How is Drax this weak.

Idk but marvel made all of the guardians of the galaxy fairly weak in general. Imagine when they have infinity wars that they will have gotg interact with the avengers so they can fight thanos. At first we know they are not going to get along and will fight each other but how on earth are they even going to make the guardians seem even comparable to the avengers when iron man could solo them? Imagine them going to have groot fight hulk, drax fight thor, rocket fight iron man, starlord fight captain america and probably iron man, gamora fight black widow, etc. Its not just going to work unless the guardians get a boost in feats and power. I can understand that the avengers are going to be considered more powerful in general but there is too big of a gap currently speaking to even think Gotg can be much of help to the Avengers.

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@frisky4 said:

How is Drax this weak.

Idk but marvel made all of the guardians of the galaxy fairly weak in general. Imagine when they have infinity wars that they will have gotg interact with the avengers so they can fight thanos. At first we know they are not going to get along and will fight each other but how on earth are they even going to make the guardians seem even comparable to the avengers when iron man could solo them? Imagine them going to have groot fight hulk, drax fight thor, rocket fight iron man, starlord fight captain america and probably iron man, gamora fight black widow, etc. Its not just going to work unless the guardians get a boost in feats and power. I can understand that the avengers are going to be considered more powerful in general but there is too big of a gap currently speaking to even think Gotg can be much of help to the Avengers.

IIRC , wasn't it stated that GOTG will never meet the avengers?

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#77  Edited By Namor_Curry

Realistically, Drax's best strength feat was ripping apart that flying robot during the prison escape. Bucky ripped a steering wheel and it's gears off a car. Both are basically equal in my mind. Drax's fighting style has shown to be more of a slow durable grappler while the Winter Soldier has a quicker, more agile fighting style with a higher striking count per unit of time. Being that their strength is equal and Bucky has the higher striking count to cancel out Drax's durability, it comes down to speed. And with that, the Winter Soldier emerges the victor. But people will argue that, so go ahead, keep doubting him, cause this is the face of a real warrior.

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Realistically, Drax's best strength feat was ripping apart that flying robot during the prison escape. Bucky ripped a steering wheel and it's gears off a car. Both are basically equal in my mind. Drax's fighting style has shown to be more of a slow durable grappler while the Winter Soldier has a quicker, more agile fighting style with a higher striking count per unit of time. Being that their strength is equal and Bucky has the higher striking count to cancel out Drax's durability, it comes down to speed. And with that, the Winter Soldier emerges the victor. But people will argue that, so go ahead, keep doubting him, cause this is the face of a real warrior.

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And the winter soldier was able to rip apart the door of a heavily armoured shield vehicle .

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Bucky.

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Drax gets gutted.

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@danielhudson: Drax was also drunk the first time he fought Ronan, so there was a context to that fight. I got nothing for the following fight, lol.

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@leo-343: What movie feat that Drax has stands out as being more impressive than Bucky's? Or anything to give him a better edge?

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@leo-343 said:

Lol the Winter Soldier hype is still going strong,- Drax wrecks Bucky.

I don't see how .

Bucky slits drax's throat .

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Drax stomps.

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drax rather easily

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I wanna say Drax, but I'm curious about his piercing durability.

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Bucky, I'm still not convinced anyone in guardians of the galaxy is anywhere close to where people think they are.

Add in prep and this is a stomp.

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Drax, we can pretend that Drax can be stabbed like a super strength Groot pierce him, but Bucky won't land a clean hit and get out of Drax range as fast as possible . . once Bucky land a hit he is in for a beating of his life to a far superior physical stats and if you think Bucky can somehow overpower Drax when in comes to a grappling position tell it to Groot and Korath. As far as we know the only time Drax got pierced is through Groot puncturing his skin to save him from drowning, other than that he didn't receive any visible damage even when he got rammed by a ravagers ship.

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Drax is weaksauce..

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#95  Edited By DreGotGamez

Feats for Drax

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Drax grabs Gamora by the throat, pins her to the wall, and keeps her pinned there for over a minute despite constantly alternating his attention between her and Star-Lord - i.e. Gamora couldn't break free of his grip. Why is pinning Gamaro impressive? I'll tell you why.

Look at how huge the gun from the ship is. And imagine the recoil. Gamora, as you can see, is very strong (compared to a human).

Not only that, but she was able to break out of Groot’s bonds in their first encounter.

She also quite easily break Groot's arms in just a couple of hits.

And we all know how strong Groot is

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Drax shows the ability to easily and impressively rag-doll people, one-shot people, and quite skillfully and acrobatically take down a couple more of the prison guards.

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Drax completely no-sells this guy's punch, and his durability is such that it appears that the guard's arm was launched back from the impact with Drax's face. Drax proceeds to send the guard flying with a headbutt, then body-slams the 2nd guard into unconsciousness.

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Drax jumps somewhere between 10-20 feet into the air to grab this defense robot/turret, then proceeds to tear it apart with his bear hands. It's hard to tell exactly, but it is also possible that Drax was tanking shots to the chest from the turret while he was tearing it apart, yet he suffers no damage whatsoever.

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While Drax basically gets destroyed by Ronan in this fight, it does establish just how incredible Drax's blunt force durability is. He tanks hit after hit, yet keeps getting up and attacking until Ronan chokes and body-slams him at the end of the fight.

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Drax can easily fodderize multiple Sakaaran soldiers (similar to Kree soldiers, often included in Kree military ranks).

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Drax throws his knives hard enough to penetrate the Sakaaran armor and kill the soldiers.

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Some more durability showings for Drax, as he shows he can tank hits and getting his head smashed into a wall by Korath the Pursuer, who can easily toss around Star-Lord and punch holes in concrete.

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Drax is now overpowering Korath, and hits hard enough that Korath's body shatters concrete upon impact with the structure.

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Drax rips out a part of Korath's cybernetic skull, resulting in Korath's death.

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Drax tanks this energy blast from Ronan's hammer, and is up and attacking right afterwards.

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Drax survives this ship crashing into him, probably his most impressive durability feat (though it's unclear exactly what happens right as the ship is making impact with Drax and Ronan).

Drax taking the blunt force of reentering a planet’s atmosphere while hitting a couple of trees along the way. (That also shows how strong Gamora is).

He was literally laughing it off the whole time and when they finally crashed.

And that doesn’t even include the fact that he took hits from Thanos with no injury and was strong enough to be able to move him.

As of the Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special, which is canon according to James Gunn (Director) and Kevin Feige (Producer), Drax laughed off handgun fire from four police officers unloading their clips, and exclaimed that it tickled. This establishes him as bulletproof. He also casually flipped a police car (not that it's all that impressive).

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#96  Edited By DreGotGamez

Drax's piercing and blunt force durability it too much for Bucky. His strength is also superior, as he scales above Gamora and Nebula who have displayed Super Soldier lvl strength. He's also rather skilled and acrobatic for someone his size.

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@akz: what did he do?

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#99 takenstew22  Moderator  Online

Drax stomps. Needs a lock.

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