Dragon Ball Z The Heroes vs. The Villains

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Vegito(Base), Gogeta(Super), Gohan(Mystic), Gotenks(SSJ3), Goku(SSJ3)

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Buuhan(Angry), General Rildo(1st Form), Hirudegarn, Janemba(Super), Kid Buu

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Who wins?

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@julyiscool Nice match up!

Hmm. I am going have to think about my this, but I do have a couple of questions.

Is this Base Vegetto from the anime or hypothetical Base Vegetto from the manga? Anime Base Vegetto was depicted as superior to Buuhan whereas it was heavily implied in the manga that Vegetto needed super saiyan to beat Buu. He transforms straight away. Base Vegetto's power placement in comparison is highly debated.

Is Goku dead?

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@julyiscool: Awesome pics. Heros stomp.

Base Vegito>Buuhan

Gogeta one-shots Janemba. Again.

Goku handles Hirudegarn

Mystic Gohan stalls Kid Buu until Gogeta one-shots him as well.

Gotenks stalls Rildo until he kills himself for even reminding us of GT.

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I never watched most of GT. How strong is Rildo? And then I'll answer.

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@thelocust619: In the manga Vegito powered up directly to ssj so the part were he fought in base was strictly filler.

Nevertheless, heroes win.

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#7  Edited By MidnightFreeze

Mystic Gohan is a powerhouse

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...Is it too much of a reach to say Gogeta solos?

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#9  Edited By Bahumat

Anime Base Veggeto could possibly beat Buuhan. Even in the anime, Buuhan was stated to be stronger than base Veggeto. Don't know about Rildo but Veggeto takes everyone under Buuhan. Villains probably.

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Heroes win

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@bahumat: Buuhan was stated stronger by Buuhan himself, who refused to accept it even after he went ssj. That's not really reliable..

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#13  Edited By Bahumat

@thelocust619: Yes, except Veggeto himself agreed and than turned Super Saiyan.

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@bahumat: He wasn't just trying to beat him, though, he was trying to save his famiry. Ohana means famiry. If the matter were as simple as blowing him into nothing, feats show it wouldn't have been too difficult if he stopped showing off. Famiry.

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@thelocust619: That still shows that Veggeto needed Super Saiyan to be multiple times stronger. Also, IIRC Super Buuhan wasn't trying until he went ssj.

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@bahumat: "That still shows that Veggeto needed Super Saiyan to be multiple times stronger"

-to accomplish a completely different task. Comparatively, beating Buu is far simpler keeping him alive and building damage over time in order to figure out a way to rescue people he already absorbed.

"Also, IIRC Super Buuhan wasn't trying until he went ssj."

-he was still trying harder than base Vegeto, who hadn't really bothered to do more than some moderate sparring before basically deciding he could just make life easy and just completely own him in ssj.

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@thelocust619: Super Buuhan said that Veggeto is very strong but not stronger than himself. Veggeto does not disagree and proceeds to go Super Saiyan. I might be wrong though, I'll search for some scans.

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@bahumat: This is anime Vegeto. Manga Vegeto didn't f*ck around, he was making a point lol Regardless, SSJ was necessary for resisting complete absorption. Nothing other than Buu's gloating suggests base Vegeto couldn't take him out. Based on showings, he was the superior fighter without even trying to go for the kill.

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@thelocust619: Well, although Buu isn't the most arrogant villain, I suppose you could be right.

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Anime base Vegito is superior to buuhan in every way. Plus Vegito does have a potential ssj 2 and 3 to put him at a immeasurably level (if beerus came and the z fighters didn't have God mode, I'd say ssj3 Vegito would be there best bet of winning.) Gogeta also has these potential 's but it's not necessary,he can one shot almost all of the villains due to his technique that destroys evil (can't remember the name,he used it on janemba ). Gotenks holds off General rildo long enough for the others to get done. Ultimate gohan vs kid buu, it's debatable if gohan is stronger than kid buu or not, he either holds him off long enough for one of the fusions to be done, or he'll kill him by himself (whichever you guys think ). Goku would Dragon fist hirudegarn again and end him. I'd say hero's all the way!

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Vegito solos

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For the record, Japanese dubbed anime had Veggeto and Buuhan close. Japanese > English

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#23  Edited By julyiscool

@gxrevolution96: Thanks I meant for it to be manga vegito meaning he wasnt quite as strong as buuhan but definitely in the ballpark

Also this is the goku that fought against buutenks I don't know if that's dead or alive

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Vegito solo.

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@ghostrider2: How? Manga Vegito wasn't as strong as buuhan and buuhan claimrd he wasn't even trying also General Rildo was stated to be stronger than buu so...

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All of this will end with a Spirit Bomb.

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#27  Edited By ghostrider2

@julyiscool: Vegito was beating Buuhan in his base form.When he went ssj....Super Vegito can one shot anyone here if he wants to.

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#28  Edited By julyiscool

@ghostrider2: Beating him? So I suppose when goku was winning against frieza using 1% of his power he was "beating" him

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Great Match up but I'm gonna go with heroes. Just a little too much for the villains to handle I think but only just.

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Buuhan and Vegito in his base form have approximately the same power level although Vegito is a bit stronger than Buuhan...Then Vegito turned SSJ an Buuhan was MUCH MUCH MORE weaker than Vegito....Vegito just needed to turn SSJ to completely outdo Buuhan

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@bahumat: careful now.This is Base Vegito, in the anime he was >Buuhan.Must i post the battle?

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very good match up,

i think it goes like this :

Buuhan beats base Vegetto

SSJ Gogeta beats Super janemba

SSJ3 Gotenks beats kid Buu

Mystic Gohan beats General Rildo.

then the combination of SSJ3 Goku, Mystic Gohan and SSJ3 Gotenks is enough to beat Buuhan, Gogeta is not needed.

because Buuhan = Super Buu + Gohan + a fraction (Piccolo, Goten, Trunks)

and super Buu is equal to SSJ3 Gotenks,

so basically SSJ3 Goku makes the difference in power, but again it's possible for Buuhan to beat those 3, because if we have a person with an amount of ki equal to the sum of Kis of a group of people, that person will always beat the team.

But again Gogeta is there to insure victory.

so yeah heroes win.

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@all_mighty_beyonder: i disagree.Base Vegito was beating Buuhan.Let's see if i remember right.

The only time Buuhan had him was after fusion and Vegito asked for more.No scratches no nothing.

After that Vegito blasted him and Buuhan reformed.The blast was never meant to kill Buu.

Later Vegito owned him with punches.Buu needed to heal.

Based on what he showed, Vegito can kill Buuhan in his base form if he wants.

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@all_mighty_beyonder: i disagree.Base Vegito was beating Buuhan.Let's see if i remember right.

The only time Buuhan had him was after fusion and Vegito asked for more.No scratches no nothing.

After that Vegito blasted him and Buuhan reformed.The blast was never meant to kill Buu.

Later Vegito owned him with punches.Buu needed to heal.

Based on what he showed, Vegito can kill Buuhan in his base form if he wants.

nop, all of that is anime fillers, going by the canon source (manga) it was insinuated that Vegeto needed to transform to SSJ or he will be stomped. and that's what happened, Vegeto immediately turned SSJ, he didn't risk fighting Buuhan at base form

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@all_mighty_beyonder: i know, still the anime is pretty close.We know what he did but why use him if you discard his base form feats from the anime?

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@all_mighty_beyonder: i know, still the anime is pretty close.We know what he did but why use him if you discard his base form feats from the anime?

ask the one who made this thread, not me :D

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This is a stomp in the heroes favor due to the presence of the fusions.

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@ifoughtgalactus: I wouldn't say it would be a stomp. This would be a very close match

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Its worth mentioning that Vegetto was surprised at how easily he was able to dominate Buu. He didn't realise that the gap would be that big.

@scouterv Possibly, but It would be extremely difficult. Its debatable wether he is stronger than Buuhan. personally, I think he would need SSJ2 to win comfortably

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Gotenks solos

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@julyiscool: Awesome pics. Heros stomp.

Base Vegito>Buuhan

Gogeta one-shots Janemba. Again.

Goku handles Hirudegarn

Mystic Gohan stalls Kid Buu until Gogeta one-shots him as well.

Gotenks stalls Rildo until he kills himself for even reminding us of GT.

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@kokemabb200: How is Base Vegito>Buuhan It should be

Buuhan>=Base Vegitp

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#50  Edited By julyiscool

@kokemabb200:Ok please consider the following.

Super Gogeta>Mystic Gohan

SSJ3 Gotenks= Super Buu

Buutenks= 2 Super Buus

Buutenks>Mystic Gohan

Mystic Gohan<2 Super Buus

Mystic Gohan= 1.5 Super Buus

Super Gogeta= 2 Super Buus

Buuhan= 3 Super Buus

Super Gogeta=< Vegito

Vegito= 2.5 Super Buus

Buuhan>Vegito

SSJ3 Goku(Z)= Kid Buu

Kid Buu= 0.5 Super Buus

SSJ3 Goku(Z)= 0.5 Super Buus

Goku(GT)= SSJ3 Goku(Z)

SSJ Goku(GT)=Buuhan

Buuhan>General Rildo

Base Vegito=General Rildo