Dragon Ball Team Runs the Whis Gauntlet

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#1  Edited By mysticmedivh
SSJ4 Gogeta, Golden Freeza, Beerus, SSG Goku, SSGSS Goku, SSGSS Vegeta, Omega Shenron
SSJ4 Gogeta, Golden Freeza, Beerus, SSG Goku, SSGSS Goku, SSGSS Vegeta, Omega Shenron

The Rules

  • Dragon Ball Team is morals off and bloodlusted.
  • Whis is morals on and in-character.
  • Dragon Ball Team has full knowledge on Whis.
  • Whis has no knowledge on who his opponents are.
  • No time manipulation/travel for Whis.
  • All fusions and transformations for the Dragon Ball Team have no time or power limit and last indefinitely.
  • Dragon Ball Team cannot run out of ki — they have and can use as much of it as they want, meaning they
    more or less stay at full power indefinitely.
  • Dragon Ball Team is fully healed after clearing each round.
  • Battle of the Gods, Resurrection F, and Dragon Ball Super feats applicable.
  • Battle takes place in an indestructible universe.
  • Breathing in space won't be a problem.
  • Win by any means possible.

The Gauntlet

  • 1 Whis
  • 2 Whis'
  • 3 Whis'
  • 4 Whis'
  • 5 Whis'
  • 6 Whis'
  • 7 Whis'
  • 8 Whis'
  • 9 Whis'
  • 10 Whis'
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1. Mismatch

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#5  Edited By YodaPrime

impossible to figure since we don't know the upper limits of Whis power. However, presumably they all get stomped except SSj4 Gogeta and Omega Shenron if u accept the assumption that they are theoretically superior based on chronology.

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Whis did one-shot Beerus, (who I'd argue is the strongest on the team).

I'll say they stop at 2.

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impossible to figure since we don't know the upper limits of Whis power.

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Whis can already one shot a majority of the team and he can arguably do it to the other two as well

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#12  Edited By Shinjiro

Question. How the hell you expect us to know Whis power if we liteally never see him fighting. Apart from fodderize Goku and Vegeta from FNF?

The same goes for Gogeta SSJ4

Anyways. The team is full of fodders. SSJGod Goku is fodder, Omega is fodder, Gogeta is fodder. Bills, Goku and Vegeta SSJGodSSJ are the only factors and they are all one-shotted by Whis.

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He can one shot both Beerus and SSG Goku. Both who have extremely better feats then SS4 Gogeta and Omega Shenron.

Team stops at 1.

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> SSJ4 Gogeta deflects OS's negative energy Val, which is all the negative energy condensed into 1 attack.

> Old Kai stated that the negative energy will destroy the DBZ mythos

> Whis said himself he can't contain universal level attacks.

> People saying they don't clear

> Kek

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1. Mismatch

The gap between Whiss & Beerus (whose the second strongest) is too tremendously huge to close.

Seriously, does anybody know anything about Dragonball Z on this site?

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>PCB thinking Gogeta is universal

>Kek

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#19  Edited By pr0d1gy

@amendment50 said:

>PCB thinking Gogeta is universal

>Kek

GT doesn't have the feats to place them on par with Super. Goku Ssj4 had trouble lifting a building. Whereas Gods in Super have the strength to shake a universe and the dimensions outside of the Universe. Regarding the threads, that makes Gogeta & Omega useless by default.

A 50% gap is representative of the Goku vs Ginyu Force gap. When Jeice told Ginyu about the fight and Ginyu estimated Goku to be at 60,000. Meaning a 50% gap is an utter stomp.

Beerus is a tad over 50% of Whiss and everyone is weaker than him.

This match is a mismatch and should be flagged.

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@precrisisbardock: I doubt whis was telling the truth when he said that. Plus beerus was lying about going 100% (again)

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#21  Edited By IRHP87

I don't see how Whis can hurt SSj4 Gogeta, especially with the others on his ass. I would usually say Whis because of his cheap time manipulation but no matter how much he rewinds time he can't actually kill SSj4 Gogeta, for sure, and he doesn't have it anyway.

I think SSj4 Gogeta alone can take this. He's OP. Although nobody wants to believe it because feat fits people throw and such.

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@panda_emperoriv: Even if he wasn't telling the truth;

> SSJ3 Goku = 1-5% Beerus

> GT Goku (base) = SSJ3 Goku = 1-5% Beerus

> GT Goku SSJ1 = 50% Beerus

> GT Goku SSJ2 = 100% Beerus

> GT Goku SSJ3 = 400% Beerus (Whis is 150% Beerus)

> GT Goku SSJ4 = 1000% Beerus (Whis is 150% Beerus)

> SSJ4 Gogeta (1-5%) > Omega Shenron > GT Goku SSJ4 > 1000% Beerus.

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@precrisisbardock: I don't think that's how it works lol. The gods seem to be in a tier of their own. Also adding the fact that gt are lacking the necessary feats to begin with.

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@panda_emperoriv: "I don't think that's how it works"

Brilliant rebuttal, totally proved me wrong.

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Goku Ssj4 had trouble lifting a building.

Goku SSJG can shake the Universe.

Universe > Building

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GT is weak sure all statements and fan calcs they'd were all terribly underpowered and needed in GT SSJ goku from frieze saga by feats is better than SSJ4 goku

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#29  Edited By IRHP87

@pr0d1gy said:

Goku Ssj4 had trouble lifting a building.

Goku SSJG can shake the Universe.

Universe > Building

He did not have trouble lifting a building, I'm looking at the video right now, and even if you wanted to interpret it your way then it's simply PIS (unless you're the type who thinks SSj4 Goku can be cut by glass like "some" people). I'm also not 100% sure lifting strength has everything to do with destructive power.

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@thedarkpaladin: No he wasn't, he had blood on his hand and his hand never even touched the glass.

Also, for all those saying he had trouble lifting a building.

> He was out of power

> It was a city

> Stop reaching

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Punching from Goku SSJG shook the Universe. Punches require strength.

Strength from Goku Ssj4 couldn't lift a building and was cut by a glass.

Universe > Building / > Glass

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#32  Edited By IRHP87

The GT hatred and trolling is too strong here. This is some legendary lowballing.

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@precrisisbardock: Well...let's compare feats then.

Ssj4 goku: His biggest feat is of lifting a city block

Ssj4 gogeta: Biggest feat is of kicking an energy orb of unknown power. Also he can only exist for 10min. Beerus would nullify any energy blast gogeta can throw out.

Omega shenron: Biggest feat is man handling two ssj4s(not impressive since they have crappy durability aka glass level) Omega got destroyed by a universal attack (if you really believe that (the spirit bomb has been called universal before, but that doesn't usually hold weight in debates)

Lord Beerus: Casually blitzes through multiple planets, casually crosses nebulas from space because he's hungry and impatient. Casually stomps the z-fighters. Can survive in space indefinitely. Can nullify universe busting blasts. The Shockwaves from his punches destroys celestial bodies. Casually destroys 2 stars out of his sleep. Survived a planet exploding on him without a scratch. Immunity to poison....etc

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Ssj4 gogeta: Beerus would nullify any energy blast gogeta can throw out.

If he could react fast enough (which he wouldn't).

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@panda_emperoriv: Even if he wasn't telling the truth;

> SSJ3 Goku = 1-5% Beerus

> GT Goku (base) = SSJ3 Goku = 1-5% Beerus

> GT Goku SSJ1 = 50% Beerus

> GT Goku SSJ2 = 100% Beerus

> GT Goku SSJ3 = 400% Beerus (Whis is 150% Beerus)

> GT Goku SSJ4 = 1000% Beerus (Whis is 150% Beerus)

> SSJ4 Gogeta (1-5%) > Omega Shenron > GT Goku SSJ4 > 1000% Beerus.

What kind of scaling is this?

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#36  Edited By panda_emperoriv

@irhp87: Lol you are reaching now. Beerus would last past the 10min limit, or he could just send him into space.

Edit: Gogeta is too cocky to end a fight

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Shenron shouldn't even be here, or Gogeta.

Stops at 1 or two.

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The fight between Goku & Beerus was seen across the entire Universe.

Nothing like that happened when Gogeta fought Omega Shenron.

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@panda_emperoriv: Even if he wasn't telling the truth;

> SSJ3 Goku = 1-5% Beerus

> GT Goku (base) = SSJ3 Goku = 1-5% Beerus

> GT Goku SSJ1 = 50% Beerus

> GT Goku SSJ2 = 100% Beerus

> GT Goku SSJ3 = 400% Beerus (Whis is 150% Beerus)

> GT Goku SSJ4 = 1000% Beerus (Whis is 150% Beerus)

> SSJ4 Gogeta (1-5%) > Omega Shenron > GT Goku SSJ4 > 1000% Beerus.

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You due attend to stop trolling? Well anyways you can't even powerscale GT since its non-canon and also Gogeta has shit all feats. I'd like to see people even debate Omega Shenron and Gogeta vs Beerus, which would be a stomp by beerus.

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@irhp87: Lol you are reaching now. Beerus would last past the 10min limit, or he could just send him into space.

Edit: Gogeta is too cocky to end a fight

Beerus wouldn't last 10 seconds and even if he did, it depends on what the rules of the fight were in any given topic. In this topic we're talking unlimited Fusion SSj4 Gogeta so this Gogeta wouldn't have that problem.

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@irhp87: Beerus can one shot Gogeta. Gogeta hasn't demonstrated anything beyond city busting. Your retarded saiyan multipliers dont apply to God characters, who can shake universe with regular punches. Beerus can solo GT by waving his hand

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Well, Whis can time travel ad hasn't been shown having any strain.

But I think they'll all lose. They all can't survive universal destruction, and I tik it'd happen in the end (even if the Earth is indestructible)

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#43  Edited By IRHP87

@josephgomes619 said:

@irhp87: Beerus can one shot Gogeta. Gogeta hasn't demonstrated anything beyond city busting. Your retarded saiyan multipliers dont apply to God characters, who can shake universe with regular punches. Beerus can solo GT by waving his hand

Nice opinion but demonstration is overrated. Also, for the rest of what you said:

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@irhp87 said:

The GT hatred and trolling is too strong here. This is some legendary lowballing.

Try posting some feats because as of now it looks like the GT wank is strong.

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@irhp87 said:

The GT hatred and trolling is too strong here. This is some legendary lowballing.

Try posting some feats because as of now it looks like the GT wank is strong.

Dragon Ball hardly runs on feats. Attacks we know are capable of destroying much more than the moon do not due to ki control. Unless you think Piccolo's casual ki blast which destroyed the moon was more powerful than 99% of attacks in later DBZ and GT then you cannot apply feats to DBZ in a normal fashion. This isn't comic books, it is manga, and a manga which is unique and works in its own way.

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#47  Edited By Alphapunk

@precrisisbardock said:

@panda_emperoriv: Even if he wasn't telling the truth;

> SSJ3 Goku = 1-5% Beerus

> GT Goku (base) = SSJ3 Goku = 1-5% Beerus

> GT Goku SSJ1 = 50% Beerus

> GT Goku SSJ2 = 100% Beerus

> GT Goku SSJ3 = 400% Beerus (Whis is 150% Beerus)

> GT Goku SSJ4 = 1000% Beerus (Whis is 150% Beerus)

> SSJ4 Gogeta (1-5%) > Omega Shenron > GT Goku SSJ4 > 1000% Beerus.

1%(or under) Beerus casually flicked SSj3 Goku and then gently touched his shoulder to victory though, that's like saying i am as strong as SSJ4 Gogeta because he had to flick me.

Wait a minute....you are right....I AM = GOGETA!!! Me > DBverse! =)

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@pr0d1gy: it was a city not a bauildingttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oT0w8h3fMlc he was struggling with a building in his base form he then wen't ss4 to lift the whole city which is a better lifting feat than goku in z has evr displayed i have no opinion to who wins this match just pointing otu your'e wrong as usual.

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@irhp87: Don't make me kill myself by laughing sir, you can't powerscale GT since its Non-canon, Goku and Beerus shook the universe which is above anything anyone from GT has ever done, according to your logic (example of what your saying) I can state my power level is a trillion yet I do nothing as impressive as the person who's power level is billion but blows up a planet. Anyone can state a power level.

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@dawnone said:

@pr0d1gy: it was a city not a bauildingttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oT0w8h3fMlc he was struggling with a building in his base form he then wen't ss4 to lift the whole city which is a better lifting feat than goku in z has evr displayed i have no opinion to who wins this match just pointing otu your'e wrong as usual.

Goku SSJG shook the universe.

Universe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Galaxy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Solar System >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Earth >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> City > Building