"I'm gessin juggs got his ass kicked by Cytorrak ?"yes.
Dr. Strange vs Juggernaut
"the human Juggernaut said:no, there have been other juggernauts in the past."ecsnclr said:Is juggernaut the only one Cytorrak gave that power to ?""I'm gessin juggs got his ass kicked by Cytorrak ?"yes."
"ecsnclr said:"the human Juggernaut said:no, there have been other juggernauts in the past.""ecsnclr said:Is juggernaut the only one Cytorrak gave that power to ?""I'm gessin juggs got his ass kicked by Cytorrak ?"yes."
Can i find info on them @ CV if not where ?
"Alpha said:"Why would three vastly powerful beings be afraid of Cytorrak?because those 3 beings are not as powerful as him."
They are not part of his relm where he is all-powerful. Doesn't seem likely.
And Cytorrak himself has imprisoned once by powerful magic, why wouldn't his avator be acceptable to the Sorcerer Supreme?"
Who says they are not?
He is only at his greatest level of power in his own relm. These beings are cosmic entities who are not subject to just mastery of a certain relm like Cytorrak, Mephisto and Dormammu.
I can see if they went to his dimension, many would be wise to fear him (and others like him), but why would they outside of that?
"the human Juggernaut said:before the onslaught "retcon", cytorrak stayed in his realm by choice, because he didn't care about the "outside" universe. Then chuck austen introduced that idiocy about some wizards trapping him there."Alpha said:"Why would three vastly powerful beings be afraid of Cytorrak?because those 3 beings are not as powerful as him."
They are not part of his relm where he is all-powerful. Doesn't seem likely.
And Cytorrak himself has imprisoned once by powerful magic, why wouldn't his avator be acceptable to the Sorcerer Supreme?"
Who says they are not?
He is only at his greatest level of power in his own relm. These beings are cosmic entities who are not subject to just mastery of a certain relm like Cytorrak, Mephisto and Dormammu.
I can see if they went to his dimension, many would be wise to fear him (and others like him), but why would they outside of that?"
"Alpha said:"the human Juggernaut said:before the onslaught "retcon", cytorrak stayed in his realm by choice, because he didn't care about the "outside" universe. Then chuck austen introduced that idiocy about some wizards trapping him there.""Alpha said:"Why would three vastly powerful beings be afraid of Cytorrak?because those 3 beings are not as powerful as him."
They are not part of his relm where he is all-powerful. Doesn't seem likely.
And Cytorrak himself has imprisoned once by powerful magic, why wouldn't his avator be acceptable to the Sorcerer Supreme?"
Who says they are not?
He is only at his greatest level of power in his own relm. These beings are cosmic entities who are not subject to just mastery of a certain relm like Cytorrak, Mephisto and Dormammu.
I can see if they went to his dimension, many would be wise to fear him (and others like him), but why would they outside of that?"
Ok but that's where him and the others are most powerful. That's how Marvel make these type of characters. Even Odin is at his most powerfu level in Asgard. Mephisto, Dormammu, Belisto, and all the others who have dominion over an entire relm or live outside of the relm of earth.
"the human Juggernaut said:Odin also fears cyttorak. He can use his power anywhere he wants, he pulled dr. strange and nova out of Galactus's ship once."Alpha said:"the human Juggernaut said:before the onslaught "retcon", cytorrak stayed in his realm by choice, because he didn't care about the "outside" universe. Then chuck austen introduced that idiocy about some wizards trapping him there.""Alpha said:"Why would three vastly powerful beings be afraid of Cytorrak?because those 3 beings are not as powerful as him."
They are not part of his relm where he is all-powerful. Doesn't seem likely.
And Cytorrak himself has imprisoned once by powerful magic, why wouldn't his avator be acceptable to the Sorcerer Supreme?"
Who says they are not?
He is only at his greatest level of power in his own relm. These beings are cosmic entities who are not subject to just mastery of a certain relm like Cytorrak, Mephisto and Dormammu.
I can see if they went to his dimension, many would be wise to fear him (and others like him), but why would they outside of that?"
Ok but that's where him and the others are most powerful. That's how Marvel make these type of characters. Even Odin is at his most powerfu level in Asgard. Mephisto, Dormammu, Belisto, and all the others who have dominion over an entire relm or live outside of the relm of earth."
"Alpha said:"the human Juggernaut said:Odin also fears cyttorak. He can use his power anywhere he wants, he pulled dr. strange and nova out of Galactus's ship once.""Alpha said:"the human Juggernaut said:before the onslaught "retcon", cytorrak stayed in his realm by choice, because he didn't care about the "outside" universe. Then chuck austen introduced that idiocy about some wizards trapping him there.""Alpha said:"Why would three vastly powerful beings be afraid of Cytorrak?because those 3 beings are not as powerful as him."
They are not part of his relm where he is all-powerful. Doesn't seem likely.
And Cytorrak himself has imprisoned once by powerful magic, why wouldn't his avator be acceptable to the Sorcerer Supreme?"
Who says they are not?
He is only at his greatest level of power in his own relm. These beings are cosmic entities who are not subject to just mastery of a certain relm like Cytorrak, Mephisto and Dormammu.
I can see if they went to his dimension, many would be wise to fear him (and others like him), but why would they outside of that?"
Ok but that's where him and the others are most powerful. That's how Marvel make these type of characters. Even Odin is at his most powerfu level in Asgard. Mephisto, Dormammu, Belisto, and all the others who have dominion over an entire relm or live outside of the relm of earth."
Ok this is getting crazy. I have check 2 sources (Marvel Encyclopedia and Marvel.com) and there is nothing that describes this guy as being that powerful outside its dimension. It seems that you are going off of some writers story plot that doesn't stay true to the character. If so, why was Juggernaut able to resist him during the 7th day story line. Deosn't seem like the all-powerful entity that writer is trying to suggest. he is just another elder-god that may be powerful at home but not in someone else house.
@ShootingNova said:
Seriously, what was the point of this bump?
Classic Strange would win.
Current Strange can win.
Current Strange can win against Classic Juggernaut though? I highly doubt it. Classic Juggernaut's magic was better than some of Classic Strange's. Wait a minute? Oh yes, no wonder Classic Strange likes to summon Classic Juggernaut in tight situations.
@Magethor said:
@ShootingNova said:
Seriously, what was the point of this bump?
Classic Strange would win.
Current Strange can win.
Current Strange can win against Classic Juggernaut though? I highly doubt it. Classic Juggernaut's magic was better than some of Classic Strange's. Wait a minute? Oh yes, no wonder Classic Strange likes to summon Classic Juggernaut in tight situations.
BFR.
@ShootingNova said:
@Magethor said:
@ShootingNova said:
Seriously, what was the point of this bump?
Classic Strange would win.
Current Strange can win.
Current Strange can win against Classic Juggernaut though? I highly doubt it. Classic Juggernaut's magic was better than some of Classic Strange's. Wait a minute? Oh yes, no wonder Classic Strange likes to summon Classic Juggernaut in tight situations.
BFR.
For how long though? If I'm not mistaken Classic Juggernaut can teleport. He not a master of it, but he can still do it. Or he just ask Cyttorak to bring him back to the battle field even though that's out of character if he must do that.
@battinson: you should look at more Hulk villains. He has plenty of extremely dangerous ones. Strange beats all the ones who depend on punches easy, but ALL? That's wank.
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