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#1 Posted by oldmagic (5295 posts) - - Show Bio

who wins?

#2 Posted by Vance Astro (91071 posts) - - Show Bio

Should be Strange...

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#3 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
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#4 Posted by King Saturn (223746 posts) - - Show Bio
Strange can win here... but I would be a bit more confident in him if it was the Classic Doctor Strange...
#5 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio

he's beaten strange in the comics...

#6 Posted by King Saturn (223746 posts) - - Show Bio
the human Juggernaut said:
"he's beaten strange in the comics..."
Ooohhh... and that scan you shown was of Classic Doc Strange correct ?
#7 Posted by Vance Astro (91071 posts) - - Show Bio
the human Juggernaut said:
"he's beaten strange in the comics..."
That is horrible writing then.I want scans though....
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#8 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"he's beaten strange in the comics..."
Ooohhh... and that scan you shown was of Classic Doc Strange correct ? "
yea, it was like from 20 -30 years ago.
#9 Posted by King Saturn (223746 posts) - - Show Bio
the human Juggernaut said:
"King Saturn said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"he's beaten strange in the comics..."
Ooohhh... and that scan you shown was of Classic Doc Strange correct ? "
yea, it was like from 20 -30 years ago."
Oh Wow
#10 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"he's beaten strange in the comics..."
That is horrible writing then.I want scans though...."
yea, but then again, who does dr. strange actually beat nowadays?
#11 Posted by Vance Astro (91071 posts) - - Show Bio
the human Juggernaut said:
"Vance Astro said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"he's beaten strange in the comics..."
That is horrible writing then.I want scans though...."
yea, but then again, who does dr. strange actually beat nowadays?"
The Hood's entire gang which included the wrecking crew.
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#12 Posted by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio
the human Juggernaut said:
"Vance Astro said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"he's beaten strange in the comics..."
That is horrible writing then.I want scans though...."
yea, but then again, who does dr. strange actually beat nowadays?"

In fairness, he's being written by Bendis on a monthly basis.  That right there will tell you he's not going to be anything like usual.
#13 Posted by nathandan1222 (1807 posts) - - Show Bio

could strange even harm juggs

#14 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
nathandan1222 said:
"could strange even harm juggs"
of course he can, he has magic.
#15 Posted by Vance Astro (91071 posts) - - Show Bio
nathandan1222 said:
"could strange even harm juggs"
The real question is...can Juggernaut even land a hit on him.
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#16 Posted by oldmagic (5295 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm pretty sure that Dr. Strange would have found a way to beat Juggs. With his kind of magical power, seemingly endless artifacts and other various objects that power him, he could beat Juggs. 

#17 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
oldmagic said:
"I'm pretty sure that Dr. Strange would have found a way to beat Juggs. With his kind of magical power, seemingly endless artifacts and other various objects that power him, he could beat Juggs. "
lol, whats he going to do, use the crimson bands on him? :p
#18 Posted by oldmagic (5295 posts) - - Show Bio

lol he destroyed a planet, he clogged a black hole and put it in a jar? he beat shamu gauma or something like that. I'm pretty sure he could find a way to beat Juggs. 

#19 Posted by Rapist (182 posts) - - Show Bio

i think strange could win this

#20 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio

actually they fought very briefly in Dr.Strange:Sorceror Supreme #44. A weakened Juggernaut floored him and was going to bash Dr.Strange's head with a gem while he was down, but the gem was knocked out of his hand. And that was it.

#21 Posted by Scarlet Thor (1112 posts) - - Show Bio

The doc

#22 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
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#23 Posted by Vance Astro (91071 posts) - - Show Bio
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This makes absolutely no sense.
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#24 Posted by Daffy Duck (438 posts) - - Show Bio

"just like YOU'RE going to, when I --" .......

??????

#25 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
Daffy Duck said:
""just like YOU'RE going to, when I --" .......

??????"
then cytorrak steps in.  FIght's over.
#26 Posted by Daffy Duck (438 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh.

#27 Posted by Vance Astro (91071 posts) - - Show Bio

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#28 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
This makes absolutely no sense."
how so?
#29 Posted by Fresh Prince (4977 posts) - - Show Bio

strange

#30 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
Fresh Prince said:
"strange"
look at the scans.  Juggernaut beat him with the crimson gem.
#31 Posted by Vance Astro (91071 posts) - - Show Bio
the human Juggernaut said:
"Vance Astro said:
This makes absolutely no sense."
how so?"
Strange has so many powers...not avoiding attacks from someone as slow as Juggernaut when he can teleport and be intangible and invisible is ridiculous.
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#32 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"Vance Astro said:
This makes absolutely no sense."
how so?"
Strange has so many powers...not avoiding attacks from someone as slow as Juggernaut when he can teleport and be intangible and invisible is ridiculous."
he did kinda sucker punch him in the beginning.  Well, sucker kick him.
#33 Posted by HalJordan1986x (4760 posts) - - Show Bio

strange via bfr

#34 Posted by Lance Bastro (4744 posts) - - Show Bio

good fight.

#35 Posted by Alpha (7322 posts) - - Show Bio

Strange's magic is powerful enough to defeat Dormammu in his own dimension, he can can defeat Juggernaut.

#36 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
Alpha said:
"Strange's magic is powerful enough to defeat Dormammu in his own dimension, he can can defeat Juggernaut."
even though he said his magic can't affect juggernaut.
#37 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio
the human Juggernaut said:
"Alpha said:
"Strange's magic is powerful enough to defeat Dormammu in his own dimension, he can can defeat Juggernaut."
even though he said his magic can't affect juggernaut."
Could he go into the crimson cosmos and beat Cytorak thus depowering juggernaut?
#38 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
AtPhantom said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"Alpha said:
"Strange's magic is powerful enough to defeat Dormammu in his own dimension, he can can defeat Juggernaut."
even though he said his magic can't affect juggernaut."
Could he go into the crimson cosmos and beat Cytorak thus depowering juggernaut?"
he can't beat him, he usually ends up begging cyttorak to give him what he needs whenever he's there.
#39 Posted by Alpha (7322 posts) - - Show Bio
the human Juggernaut said:
"Alpha said:
"Strange's magic is powerful enough to defeat Dormammu in his own dimension, he can can defeat Juggernaut."
even though he said his magic can't affect juggernaut."

Who said this?
#40 Posted by The Man of Yesteryear (5502 posts) - - Show Bio
Alpha said:
"Strange's magic is powerful enough to defeat Dormammu in his own dimension, he can can defeat Juggernaut."
When was his magic shown to be this powerful? I remember him fighting Dormammu with mystic pincers and Dormammu saying "Though I possess enough magical power to erase you from existence in an instant, I prefer to continue our battle as before -- using only our physical weapons."
#41 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
Alpha said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"Alpha said:
"Strange's magic is powerful enough to defeat Dormammu in his own dimension, he can can defeat Juggernaut."
even though he said his magic can't affect juggernaut."

Who said this?"
dr. strange said it.
#42 Posted by Alpha (7322 posts) - - Show Bio
The Man of Yesteryear said:
"Alpha said:
"Strange's magic is powerful enough to defeat Dormammu in his own dimension, he can can defeat Juggernaut."
When was his magic shown to be this powerful? I remember him fighting Dormammu with mystic pincers and Dormammu saying "Though I possess enough magical power to erase you from existence in an instant, I prefer to continue our battle as before -- using only our physical weapons.""

The Watcher asked him why he allowed the Civil War to continue stating that he could have ended with one word. He is powerful enough to have gained and audience with Eternity.
#43 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
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#44 Posted by Alpha (7322 posts) - - Show Bio

So, when did his head gear protect him from magic?

Every bio I've read on him say it protects him from telepathy and Dr Strange doesn't use telepathy.

#45 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
Alpha said:
"So, when did his head gear protect him from magic?

Every bio I've read on him say it protects him from telepathy and Dr Strange doesn't use telepathy."
ask dr. strange that.

His magic also doesn't affect anything that's cyttorak's either, because the vishanti are afraid of him.
#46 Posted by Alpha (7322 posts) - - Show Bio
the human Juggernaut said:
"Alpha said:
"So, when did his head gear protect him from magic?

Every bio I've read on him say it protects him from telepathy and Dr Strange doesn't use telepathy."
ask dr. strange that.

His magic also doesn't affect anything that's cyttorak's either, because the vishanti are afraid of him."

Dr Strange uses the power of Cyttorak so I don't see why he couldn't weaken Juggernaut.

But all in all, based on the power that he has in the relm of earth (Sorcerer Supreme) and Juggernaut being powered by magic, it stands to reason that he can beat him. If you  go by the power bio of the characters and  not what some writer decided to state for his story. 

I'm trying to get away from quoting writers, their opinion varies, while an official bio is fact. So disrgard my statement earlier about tghe Watcher and Eternity. I'm basing my opinion on what I know about the characters.
#47 Edited by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
Alpha said:
"the human Juggernaut said:
"Alpha said:
"So, when did his head gear protect him from magic?

Every bio I've read on him say it protects him from telepathy and Dr Strange doesn't use telepathy."
ask dr. strange that.

His magic also doesn't affect anything that's cyttorak's either, because the vishanti are afraid of him."

Dr Strange uses the power of Cyttorak so I don't see why he couldn't weaken Juggernaut.

But all in all, based on the power that he has in the relm of earth (Sorcerer Supreme) and Juggernaut being powered by magic, it stands to reason that he can beat him. If you  go by the power bio of the characters and  not what some writer decided to state for his story. 

I'm trying to get away from quoting writers, their opinion varies, while an official bio is fact. So disrgard my statement earlier about tghe Watcher and Eternity. I'm basing my opinion on what I know about the characters."
Strange only does with that power what cyttorak allows him to do.  Cyttorak woudn't let strange hurt his own avatar with his own power.

It doesn't stand to reason when the beings that supply most of strange's power are afraid of doing anything to the being that powers juggernaut, or the people he empowers.
#48 Posted by Alpha (7322 posts) - - Show Bio

Why would three vastly powerful beings be afraid of Cytorrak?
They are not part of his relm where he is all-powerful. Doesn't seem likely.

And Cytorrak himself has imprisoned once by powerful magic, why wouldn't his avator be acceptable to the Sorcerer Supreme?

#49 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
Alpha said:
"Why would three vastly powerful beings be afraid of Cytorrak?
They are not part of his relm where he is all-powerful. Doesn't seem likely.

And Cytorrak himself has imprisoned once by powerful magic, why wouldn't his avator be acceptable to the Sorcerer Supreme?"
because those 3 beings are not as powerful as him.
#50 Posted by ecsnclr (4147 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm gessin juggs got his ass kicked by Cytorrak ?