#1 Posted by Cosmic Mancer (195 posts) - - Show Bio


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#2 Posted by King Saturn (224210 posts) - - Show Bio
Dr. Manhattan would take down Superman.  Manhattan is a high cosmic level being
#3 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio

Dr. Manhattan, by a wide margin.

#4 Posted by Avantar (385 posts) - - Show Bio

Well whatever the outcome of this fight, ask Dr Manhattan. He would both know and be unable to change it....lol

#5 Posted by lordraiden (7144 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"Dr. Manhattan would take down Superman.  Manhattan is a high cosmic level being
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Yeah, bit hard for someone like Superman to take down someone like Manhattan, on another whole different molecular level! Whatever Superman can/will do, gets undone by Manhattan, and just tells Superman to go back to Metropolis in the end :-)
#6 Posted by the creator (8577 posts) - - Show Bio

Manhatten can see ahead in the timestream. Admittedly his actions are already predetermined (and he cannot change them) but he should be able to overcome Superman as Superman's speed will have little impact on this battle.
Should Superman destroy Manhatten's body, Manhatten can still reform.

#7 Edited by Triumphant (2316 posts) - - Show Bio

Yep. This fight goes to Manhattan.

#8 Posted by Nerx (15088 posts) - - Show Bio

Doc Manhattan FTW ,but superman could try a kick to the crotch because the Doc is not properly 'protected'

#9 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio

Manhattan

#10 Posted by King Saturn (224210 posts) - - Show Bio
lordraiden said:
"King Saturn said:
"Dr. Manhattan would take down Superman.  Manhattan is a high cosmic level being
"

Yeah, bit hard for someone like Superman to take down someone like Manhattan, on another whole different molecular level! Whatever Superman can/will do, gets undone by Manhattan, and just tells Superman to go back to Metropolis in the end :-)"
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#11 Posted by Yoshimitsu (185 posts) - - Show Bio
Manhattan kicks Superman's head in.
#12 Posted by Braiden (104 posts) - - Show Bio

Hmmmmm. Dr manhattans only weekness is Tachyon so lets say superman finds this out befor hand finds a way to harniss it, sure the dr will see it coming being able to see the future and all but he can not interfear so dr manhattan takes it like a bitch and superman is victorias just as he is over anyone

#13 Posted by Matezoide2 (15994 posts) - - Show Bio
Braiden said:
"Hmmmmm. Dr manhattans only weekness is Tachyon so lets say superman finds this out befor hand finds a way to harniss it, sure the dr will see it coming being able to see the future and all but he can not interfear so dr manhattan takes it like a bitch and superman is victorias just as he is over anyone
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this dont make sense

Mannhantan ftw
#14 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio
Braiden said:
"Hmmmmm. Dr manhattans only weekness is Tachyon so lets say superman finds this out befor hand finds a way to harniss it, sure the dr will see it coming being able to see the future and all but he can not interfear so dr manhattan takes it like a bitch and superman is victorias just as he is over anyone"
Superman 1) doesn't have prep time and 2) isn't smart enough to set up the tech necessary to generate tachyons that would throw Manhattan off anyway. Superman gets deconstructed.
#15 Posted by The_MVPs (84694 posts) - - Show Bio
Korg said:
"Braiden said:
"Hmmmmm. Dr manhattans only weekness is Tachyon so lets say superman finds this out befor hand finds a way to harniss it, sure the dr will see it coming being able to see the future and all but he can not interfear so dr manhattan takes it like a bitch and superman is victorias just as he is over anyone"
Superman 1) doesn't have prep time and 2) isn't smart enough to set up the tech necessary to generate tachyons that would throw Manhattan off anyway. Superman gets deconstructed.
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I think your underestimating Superman's intelligence. He's above normal human intelligence. He's created machines more complicated then a Nuclear Weapon before. But your right about him not having prep so its a moot point.
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#16 Edited by King Saturn (224210 posts) - - Show Bio
Wouldnt Manhattan be able to see that Superman is plotting against him even if Kal-El had prep time ?
#17 Posted by High Revolutionary (3166 posts) - - Show Bio

Manhattan would give it to Superman like no one ever has.  And he'd make Lois watch.

#18 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio
Gambler said:
"I think your underestimating Superman's intelligence. He's above normal human intelligence. He's created machines more complicated then a Nuclear Weapon before. But your right about him not having prep so its a moot point."
I know Supes is a smart cookie, I just don't think he could conceive of and create 16 tachyon generators, 8 of which are satellites. There are probably easier routes to victory than that anyway (round up some other high-tier heroes, or someone who would be able to synthesize tachyons without a machine).

King Saturn said:
"Wouldnt Manhattan be able to see that Superman is plotting against him even if Kal-El had prep time ?"
It doesn't matter. Manhattan cannot change his future. So if he sees Superman somehow beating him in the future, that is what will happen.
#19 Posted by The_MVPs (84694 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"Wouldnt Manhattan be able to see that Superman is plotting against him even if Kal-El had prep time ?
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No idea. I guess, but he wasn't able to see Oz creating the machine that blocked his ability to see into the future.
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#20 Posted by The_MVPs (84694 posts) - - Show Bio
Korg said:
"Gambler said:
"I think your underestimating Superman's intelligence. He's above normal human intelligence. He's created machines more complicated then a Nuclear Weapon before. But your right about him not having prep so its a moot point."
I know Supes is a smart cookie, I just don't think he could conceive of and create 16 tachyon generators, 8 of which are satellites. There are probably easier routes to victory than that anyway (round up some other high-tier heroes, or someone who would be able to synthesize tachyons without a machine).
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I agree with the second part of your post. But as for the first, Superman deals with Kryptonian tech daily. I don't think creating Tachyon Generators would be much effort for him at all. In I personally believe he could come up with something more advance and just as effective.
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#21 Posted by King Saturn (224210 posts) - - Show Bio
Korg said:

King Saturn said:
"Wouldnt Manhattan be able to see that Superman is plotting against him even if Kal-El had prep time ?"
It doesn't matter. Manhattan cannot change his future. So if he sees Superman somehow beating him in the future, that is what will happen.
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  I was talking about Manhattan being able to see Superman plotting against him in the future... not the outcome of the battle itself...
#22 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
I was talking about Manhattan being able to see Superman plotting against him in the future... not the outcome of the battle itself..."
No, not unless it involved Manhattan directly. He can only see his own future. Technically Superman plotting would just be Superman's future.
#23 Posted by King Saturn (224210 posts) - - Show Bio
Korg said:
"King Saturn said:
I was talking about Manhattan being able to see Superman plotting against him in the future... not the outcome of the battle itself..."
No, not unless it involved Manhattan directly. He can only see his own future. Technically Superman plotting would just be Superman's future.
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Oh Okay...
#24 Posted by Vance Astro (91237 posts) - - Show Bio

Manhattan.Easily.

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#25 Posted by Kataklysmo (859 posts) - - Show Bio
Manhattan with a mere wave of his hand.
#26 Edited by Braiden (104 posts) - - Show Bio

yes but what you all are forgetting is that Dr Manhattan has 2 weaknesses tychon and accelerated particles, now superman moved faster then the speed of light when he span the world around to go back in time.... If something is moving that fast it becomes an accelerated particle, When superman moves that fast he becomes a bunch of accelerated particles and each one is heading straight for the good Dr. After he hits him dr is down and loses his powers for about 10 seconds and that's all the time superman needs to finish the job. But superman wouldn't kill him. But the fact is he could if he wanted to, and don't say about superman going back in time when he hits the speed of light cause he doeskin need to be moving that fast to become an accelerated particle........ Superman wins (I wish  you would all get over it)

#27 Posted by lagoon_boy (10954 posts) - - Show Bio
Braiden said:
yes but what you all are forgetting is that Dr Manhattan has 2 weaknesses tychon and accelerated particles, now superman ... [more]
wtf!!! you think dr m cant see that cming huh.... huh
#28 Posted by Braiden (104 posts) - - Show Bio
lagoon_boy said:
Braiden said: yes but what you all are forgetting is that Dr Manhattan has 2 weaknesses tychon and accelerated particles, ... [more]
no he cant becuse he is an accelerated particle omfg thats his weekness. and plus he can see his future but cant change it so if he sees superman doin that in the future thats whats gonna happen. OK
#29 Posted by mira (1541 posts) - - Show Bio

Dr. Manhattan

#30 Posted by lagoon_boy (10954 posts) - - Show Bio
Braiden said:
lagoon_boy said: Braiden said: yes but what you all are forgetting is that Dr Manhattan has 2 weaknesses tychon and ... [more]
dr. m can win against  ur boy
#31 Posted by xan84 (4286 posts) - - Show Bio

Neah sups wins, he calls Bats for help then bats get's a anti-dr.m. gadget out of his belt ...
Now realy Superman can't win this unless he has some prep time to come up with something OR get realy lucky with a plot device and dr. m ends up somehow affected with 1 of his weaknesses.

#32 Posted by WindCloud (2678 posts) - - Show Bio

Dr. M would abuse pooperman in his poopy-hole with his big blue "little brother" before sending him off to another part of the galaxy.

#33 Posted by Braiden (104 posts) - - Show Bio
lagoon_boy said:
Braiden said: lagoon_boy said: Braiden said: yes but what you all are forgetting is that Dr Manhattan has 2 weaknesses ... [more]
Give me a valid reason why, so far evry senario ive looked at superman wins because of the Doctor's weaknesses so BAM!!. You and your Dr lose 
#34 Posted by Braiden (104 posts) - - Show Bio
lagoon_boy said:
Braiden said: lagoon_boy said: Braiden said: yes but what you all are forgetting is that Dr Manhattan has 2 weaknesses ... [more]
No he cant, give me a valid reason why. every scenario iv ran through my head superman still wins. So YOU and YOUR BOY lose. =)
#35 Posted by lagoon_boy (10954 posts) - - Show Bio
y would i like a guy that has a cosmic pimple in his forhead??? braiden ( 10 ) vs wat king saurn with wat 29,410 posts
#36 Posted by reaper2923 (2778 posts) - - Show Bio
#37 Edited by Ferro Vida (34678 posts) - - Show Bio
Braiden said:
yes but what you all are forgetting is that Dr Manhattan has 2 weaknesses tychon and accelerated particles, now superman ... [more]
1) Tachyons are acclerated particles.

2) Dr. M stated himself that reforming his body was the first trick he learned.

If you're reading this, Warkiller, this is basically what a fanboy is.
#38 Posted by Braiden (104 posts) - - Show Bio
lagoon_boy said:
y would i like a guy that has a cosmic pimple in his forhead??? braiden ( 10 ) vs wat ... [more]

u still dont get it, i may have better things to do than stay on here and post shit..... but this time its unfair. the other guy may have 20,000 posts but that dont mean shit. I am willing to bet that i no more about superman and Dr M then he does so..... cmon then tell me how he would win....... thats right u cant so you lose get ova it.
#39 Posted by Ferro Vida (34678 posts) - - Show Bio
Braiden said:
lagoon_boy said: y would i like a guy that has a cosmic pimple in his forhead??? braiden ( 10 ) ... [more]
He would win because Superman can't do anything to him, while Dr. Manhattan can disassemble Supes molecule by molecule.
#40 Posted by Braiden (104 posts) - - Show Bio
Ferro Vida said:
Braiden said: lagoon_boy said: y would i like a guy that has a cosmic pimple in his forhead??? braiden ( ... [more]
now as for superman not winning he would.... read the rest of the posts b4 posting random crap. Superman travelling that fast he becomes and accelerated particle actually a bunch of them and they hit the dr. he loses his powers for 10 seconds and in that time im willing to bet my life that superman could wipe every molecule of the good dr b4 he gets his powers back so yer.... =)
#41 Posted by Ferro Vida (34678 posts) - - Show Bio
Braiden said:
Ferro Vida said: Braiden said: lagoon_boy said: y would i like a guy that has a cosmic pimple in his ... [more]
What are you basing him losing his powers on? What evidence do you have that that is what would happen? How can you possibly expect Superman's first reaction to be to fly faster than light? He would never do that while they were on Earth, because it would cause to much collateral damage.
#42 Posted by lagoon_boy (10954 posts) - - Show Bio
Braiden said:
lagoon_boy said: y would i like a guy that has a cosmic pimple in his forhead??? braiden ( 10 ) ... [more]
hes cosmic he would win cuz most attacks of supes would not work wat would supes do, oh having more post makes you more logical
#43 Posted by Braiden (104 posts) - - Show Bio
Ferro Vida said:
Braiden said: Ferro Vida said: Braiden said: lagoon_boy said: y would i like a guy that has a cosmic pimple ... [more]
superman wouldnt just rush into a fight with the dr anyway he would learn these things b4  hand so yer
#44 Posted by Braiden (104 posts) - - Show Bio
lagoon_boy said:
Braiden said: lagoon_boy said: y would i like a guy that has a cosmic pimple in his forhead??? braiden ( ... [more]
superman would become a bunch of ccelerated particles and bam u lose. and with the post thing ok thas fair enough but dont question my info plz
#45 Posted by Ferro Vida (34678 posts) - - Show Bio
Braiden said:
Ferro Vida said: Braiden said: Ferro Vida said: Braiden said: lagoon_boy said: y would i like a guy that has ... [more]
The OP doesn't state that he has any prep time whatsoever. Even if he did, I doubt it would alter the outcome.
#46 Posted by Braiden (104 posts) - - Show Bio

superman has incredable speed yes...... so he could wip up the machine in like half a second. i cant beleve im even aguing with someone who wont change their mind no matter what i say...... i cant win. but neitehr can you =)

#47 Posted by Braiden (104 posts) - - Show Bio
Ferro Vida said:
Braiden said: Ferro Vida said: Braiden said: Ferro Vida said: Braiden said: lagoon_boy said: y would i like a guy ... [more]
read my comment above i forgot to quote
#48 Posted by Ferro Vida (34678 posts) - - Show Bio
Braiden said:
superman has incredable speed yes...... so he could wip up the machine in like half a second. i cant beleve ... [more]
He's smart, but not that smart. He's fast, but not that fast. Especially not when Dr. M can make him cease to exist with a blink of his blue eye.
#49 Posted by Braiden (104 posts) - - Show Bio
Ferro Vida said:
Braiden said: superman has incredable speed yes...... so he could wip up the machine in like half a second. i ... [more]
actually superman is that smart as proven countless times in the comics, and superman is actually that fast. he traveled to Saturn in 4 seconds and goin at the speed of light it would take like 4 minutes, he also escaped a black hole with his incredable speed. so DR. M can blink all he want because for that split second when he does blink superman will have the machinery up and running and mid way through firering. so im sorry but you lose again =)
#50 Posted by Ferro Vida (34678 posts) - - Show Bio
Braiden said:
Ferro Vida said: Braiden said: superman has incredable speed yes...... so he could wip up the machine in like half ... [more]
...Kobashi? Is that you?

When has Superman's first tactic EVER been to build a machine?