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#1  Edited By rabidrage

I thought someone might have done this, and I only skimmed the re-cap thread, so sorry if it's been done!  It seems like a pretty logical match-up, although I think a lot of you will tell me Doc Manhattan wins it.  He does seem like he can do more, but one can never tell...

We'll give 'em an entire deserted galaxy to fight in, no prep, and see what happens!

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#2  Edited By Son Of Storm

End of everything!!!!!!!

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#3  Edited By rabidrage

Well sure, but who wins?

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#4  Edited By Larfleeze

Dr. Manhattan pretty easily...

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#5  Edited By Ferro Vida

Dr. M

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#6  Edited By Th3 FlAsH 123

The Doc, hard to vote against him.

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#7  Edited By Alberic

Stalemate

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#8  Edited By Son_of_Magnus

I swear to god ............. STOP USING WATCHMEN IN BATTLE FORUMS!!!!!!!!!!! That book was all talking they have basically zero feats or character development to back them up in any fight. Using them against characters with pages of feats and character development is the absolute DUMBEST thing I have seen Sentry wins due to sheer number of feats

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#9  Edited By thatguy

Sentry, now atleast.

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#10  Edited By OhTru

  Sentry has greater molecular manipulation ability  

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If you go but the recent events in the Dark Avengers
They can't really beat each other

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#12  Edited By Superparody
@OhTru said:
"   Sentry has greater molecular manipulation ability   "
so sentry is greater at controlling particles then DR.M?
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#13  Edited By OhTru
@Superparody said:
" @OhTru said:
"   Sentry has greater molecular manipulation ability   "
so sentry is greater at controlling particles then DR.M? "
He beat Galactus and Molecule Man
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#14  Edited By AtPhantom
@OhTru said:
" @Superparody said:
" @OhTru said:
"   Sentry has greater molecular manipulation ability   "
so sentry is greater at controlling particles then DR.M? "
He beat Galactus and Molecule Man "
He never beat Galactus.
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#15  Edited By Alberic
@AtPhantom said:
" @OhTru said:
" @Superparody said:
" @OhTru said:
"   Sentry has greater molecular manipulation ability   "
so sentry is greater at controlling particles then DR.M? "
He beat Galactus and Molecule Man "
He never beat Galactus. "
he stalemate galactus
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#16  Edited By Son_of_Magnus
@Alberic said:
" @AtPhantom said:
" @OhTru said:
" @Superparody said:
" @OhTru said:
"   Sentry has greater molecular manipulation ability   "
so sentry is greater at controlling particles then DR.M? "
He beat Galactus and Molecule Man "
He never beat Galactus. "
he stalemate galactus "
Off panel with no proof it happening besides Spider-Man saying he remembered it
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#17  Edited By TGalinsky

ARE YOU SERIOUS!? I HATE WHEN PEOPLE THINK STUFF LIKE THIS THAT SENTRY CAN BEAT DR. M!!!! MANHATTAN STOMPS!  
wave hand, sentry pieces everywhere.

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#18  Edited By FLCL1

dr.M
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#19  Edited By Superparody
@TGalinsky said:
" ARE YOU SERIOUS!? I HATE WHEN PEOPLE THINK STUFF LIKE THIS THAT SENTRY CAN BEAT DR. M!!!! MANHATTAN STOMPS!  wave hand, sentry pieces everywhere. "
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#20  Edited By OhTru
@TGalinsky said:
"  wave hand, sentry pieces everywhere. "
Yet Molecule Man did this TWICE and Sentry still came back to beat him
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#21  Edited By AtPhantom
@OhTru said:
" @TGalinsky said:
"  wave hand, sentry pieces everywhere. "
Yet Molecule Man did this TWICE and Sentry still came back to beat him "
A third time should suffice then.
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#22  Edited By Harlekin

Draw.

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#23  Edited By Alberic
@AtPhantom said:
" @OhTru said:
" @TGalinsky said:
"  wave hand, sentry pieces everywhere. "
Yet Molecule Man did this TWICE and Sentry still came back to beat him "
A third time should suffice then. "
no
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#24  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
Ridiculousness knows no bounds.
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#25  Edited By AtPhantom
@Alberic said:
" @AtPhantom said:
" @OhTru said:
" @TGalinsky said:
"  wave hand, sentry pieces everywhere. "
Yet Molecule Man did this TWICE and Sentry still came back to beat him "
A third time should suffice then. "
no "
Then throwing a giant anvil over his head would do the trick. Because if you hadn't noticed, the seemingly all powerful master of a million suns isn't really good at taking punches.
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#26  Edited By OhTru
@Harlekin said:
" Draw. "
Yeah it could be a stalemate
 
it depends if Sentry pulls of the same feat against Molecule Man then maybe Sentry can finally get rid of Manhattan
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#27  Edited By thedarkgodzz

when sentry ever beat galactus ?? i never hear that !!! Dr.Manhattan is superior in every aspect and power and ability except molecule manipulation. Sentry may able to control molecule but Dr.manhattan able to control the Time so even Sentry destroy Dr.manhattan molecule, Dr manhattan was able to reform his molecule again and Dr. manhattan was an Immortal being too

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#28  Edited By OhTru

It was rumored the Sentry had the same degree of immortality, in one issue his wife took out an alien gun and blew off the Sentry's face.
Next issue?
Sentry is back in action as if nothing ever happened
 
 
In his fight vs Molecule Man we actually got to see the Sentry reform himself, this was after Molecule Man ATOMIZED him, he comes back out of nothing all angered up with an attitude like the Void

 I think the Sentry can win this, he has Manhattan beat on the speed department 

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#29  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

Sentry.Easily.

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#30  Edited By AtPhantom

Let's get something straight. No matter if Sentry is normal or classic or a better molecule manipulator than molecule man, there is no way he can beat Manhattan. Manhattan is a non-corporeal entity. that means no matter what Sentry does to his body, he cannot harm the entity controlling it. The best Sentry can do is stalemate.

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#31  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@AtPhantom said:
" Let's get something straight. No matter if Sentry is normal or classic or a better molecule manipulator than molecule man, there is no way he can beat Manhattan. Manhattan is a non-corporeal entity. that means no matter what Sentry does to his body, he cannot harm the entity controlling it. The best Sentry can do is stalemate. "
Dr.Manhattan can't be hurt at all? He's invincible? Untouchable? Because I thought Sentry could just give him the old Carnage....
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#32  Edited By AtPhantom
@Vance Astro said:
" @AtPhantom said:
" Let's get something straight. No matter if Sentry is normal or classic or a better molecule manipulator than molecule man, there is no way he can beat Manhattan. Manhattan is a non-corporeal entity. that means no matter what Sentry does to his body, he cannot harm the entity controlling it. The best Sentry can do is stalemate. "
Dr.Manhattan can't be hurt at all? He's invincible? Untouchable? Because I thought Sentry could just give him the old Carnage.... "
That's the point. You can destroy his body and he'll just make another one. You can destroy a million of his bodies and he'll just make a million more. His bodies are like tools to him. He's a puppet master. You can't hurt him by killing his puppets.
 
Despite the fact that he has no feats on par with Sentry, the nature of his powers makes him impervious to blunt force or molecular manipulation. It takes magic, reality warping, or a soul attack to put him down.
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#33  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@AtPhantom said:
" @Vance Astro said:
" @AtPhantom said:
" Let's get something straight. No matter if Sentry is normal or classic or a better molecule manipulator than molecule man, there is no way he can beat Manhattan. Manhattan is a non-corporeal entity. that means no matter what Sentry does to his body, he cannot harm the entity controlling it. The best Sentry can do is stalemate. "
Dr.Manhattan can't be hurt at all? He's invincible? Untouchable? Because I thought Sentry could just give him the old Carnage.... "
That's the point. You can destroy his body and he'll just make another one. You can destroy a million of his bodies and he'll just make a million more. His bodies are like tools to him. He's a puppet master. You can't hurt him by killing his puppets.  Despite the fact that he has no feats on par with Sentry, the nature of his powers makes him impervious to blunt force or molecular manipulation. It takes magic, reality warping, or a soul attack to put him down. "
I didn't pay much attention to him in Watchmen so I wasn't fully aware of his abilities.I was assuming that he wasn't durable enough to take a hit from Sentry. 
I don't get why he's impervious to Blunt force and molecular manipulation? Is he not made up of molecules? 
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#34  Edited By AtPhantom
@Vance Astro said:
" I didn't pay much attention to him in Watchmen so I wasn't fully aware of his abilities.I was assuming that he wasn't durable enough to take a hit from Sentry. I don't get why he's impervious to Blunt force and molecular manipulation? Is he not made up of molecules?  "
No, that's what I'm saying. His body is made out of molecules, but he is in essence a non-corporeal entity. Like Eternity or Chronos or the Shadow king (If I understand the shadow king). He is a disembodied consciousness. He uses a body to interact with others, but he doesn't need his body to survive. 
He is an entity. You can destroy his body through blunt force or MM, but you cannot harm the entity itself with it. you need some higher tier abilities for that.
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#35  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@AtPhantom said:
" @Vance Astro said:
" I didn't pay much attention to him in Watchmen so I wasn't fully aware of his abilities.I was assuming that he wasn't durable enough to take a hit from Sentry. I don't get why he's impervious to Blunt force and molecular manipulation? Is he not made up of molecules?  "
No, that's what I'm saying. His body is made out of molecules, but he is in essence a non-corporeal entity. Like Eternity or Chronos or the Shadow king (If I understand the shadow king). He is a disembodied consciousness. He uses a body to interact with others, but he doesn't need his body to survive.  He is an entity. You can destroy his body through blunt force or MM, but you cannot harm the entity itself with it. you need some higher tier abilities for that. "
Oooooh ok.Thanks for the info AtPhantom.
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#36  Edited By AtPhantom

No prob. : )

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#37  Edited By GhostPool

I hate Sentry fans so much what do you think that Sentry is going to stand a chance against Dr.M geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez DR.M is ridcously Powerfull.

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#38  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@GhostPool said:
" I hate Sentry fans so much what do you think that Sentry is going to stand a chance against Dr.M geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez DR.M is ridcously Powerfull. "
I hate you too.
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#39  Edited By GhostPool
@Vance Astro said:
" @GhostPool said:
" I hate Sentry fans so much what do you think that Sentry is going to stand a chance against Dr.M geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez DR.M is ridcously Powerfull. "
I hate you too. "

No surprise thier you one Hell of a Sentry dont blame you for hateing me.Ok let me make you a deal if you can give me one way of how Sentry can beat Dr.M i will bow down and give you ur reasons but damn man you gotta admit some Sentry fans are just hard headed even if they know they are wrong they just keep going (not referring to you) i had my past arguements with you && i still disagree with you that Sentry beats the Rider but lets juts leave it at that but you actually make an arguement 75% of Sentry fans don't thats what i hate.Tell me one wayy excluding stalemate Sentry can beat Dr.M and i'll give you my grtitudes.
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#40  Edited By King Quisling
@Alberic said:
" Stalemate "
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#41  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@GhostPool said:
" @Vance Astro said:
" @GhostPool said:
" I hate Sentry fans so much what do you think that Sentry is going to stand a chance against Dr.M geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez DR.M is ridcously Powerfull. "
I hate you too. "
No surprise thier you one Hell of a Sentry dont blame you for hateing me.Ok let me make you a deal if you can give me one way of how Sentry can beat Dr.M i will bow down and give you ur reasons but damn man you gotta admit some Sentry fans are just hard headed even if they know they are wrong they just keep going (not referring to you) i had my past arguements with you && i still disagree with you that Sentry beats the Rider but lets juts leave it at that but you actually make an arguement 75% of Sentry fans don't thats what i hate.Tell me one wayy excluding stalemate Sentry can beat Dr.M and i'll give you my grtitudes. "
Well first of all I don't know anything about Dr.Manhattan.That's first of all. 
Second of all if you actually read my posts you would see I already conceded that Sentry can't beat Dr.Manhattan based on what AtPhantom has told me. 
Why even bring up Sentry beating Ghost Rider..you're b#tching about Sentry fans being unreasonable when that's exactly what you were doing for Ghost Rider and surprise surprise you name is GHOSTpool and you have a GHOST Rider avatar.You're the unreasonable fanboy..not me.I don't even like Sentry that much.I was just baiting someone to tell me what Dr.Manhattan can do.
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#42  Edited By capall
@AtPhantom said:
"Let's get something straight. No matter if Sentry is normal or classic or a better molecule manipulator than molecule man, there is no way he can beat Manhattan. Manhattan is a non-corporeal entity. that means no matter what Sentry does to his body, he cannot harm the entity controlling it. The best Sentry can do is stalemate. "

this is correct, only thing is tho what kind of offence can dr manhattan bring here
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#43  Edited By GhostPool
@Vance Astro said:
" @GhostPool said:
" @Vance Astro said:
" @GhostPool said:
" I hate Sentry fans so much what do you think that Sentry is going to stand a chance against Dr.M geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez DR.M is ridcously Powerfull. "
I hate you too. "
No surprise thier you one Hell of a Sentry dont blame you for hateing me.Ok let me make you a deal if you can give me one way of how Sentry can beat Dr.M i will bow down and give you ur reasons but damn man you gotta admit some Sentry fans are just hard headed even if they know they are wrong they just keep going (not referring to you) i had my past arguements with you && i still disagree with you that Sentry beats the Rider but lets juts leave it at that but you actually make an arguement 75% of Sentry fans don't thats what i hate.Tell me one wayy excluding stalemate Sentry can beat Dr.M and i'll give you my grtitudes. "
Well first of all I don't know anything about Dr.Manhattan.That's first of all. Second of all if you actually read my posts you would see I already conceded that Sentry can't beat Dr.Manhattan based on what AtPhantom has told me. Why even bring up Sentry beating Ghost Rider..you're b#tching about Sentry fans being unreasonable when that's exactly what you were doing for Ghost Rider and surprise surprise you name is GHOSTpool and you have a GHOST Rider avatar.You're the unreasonable fanboy..not me.I don't even like Sentry that much.I was just baiting someone to tell me what Dr.Manhattan can do. "

I am unreasonablle when it comes to DeadPool i admit it but when it comes to Rider i can argue.Well im a i argue alot by The Rider coz if you actually read who is the current Rider you'll know he powerfull.
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#44  Edited By AtPhantom
@capall said:
" @AtPhantom said:
"Let's get something straight. No matter if Sentry is normal or classic or a better molecule manipulator than molecule man, there is no way he can beat Manhattan. Manhattan is a non-corporeal entity. that means no matter what Sentry does to his body, he cannot harm the entity controlling it. The best Sentry can do is stalemate. "
this is correct, only thing is tho what kind of offence can dr manhattan bring here "
I think it's clear so far that molecular manipulation indeed can't do much to Sentry, so I'm calling a stalemate.
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#45  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@GhostPool said:
I am unreasonablle when it comes to DeadPool i admit it but when it comes to Rider i can argue.Well im a i argue alot by The Rider coz if you actually read who is the current Rider you'll know he powerfull. "
<-----doesn't care.
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#46  Edited By capall
@AtPhantom said:
" @capall said:
" @AtPhantom said:
"Let's get something straight. No matter if Sentry is normal or classic or a better molecule manipulator than molecule man, there is no way he can beat Manhattan. Manhattan is a non-corporeal entity. that means no matter what Sentry does to his body, he cannot harm the entity controlling it. The best Sentry can do is stalemate. "
this is correct, only thing is tho what kind of offence can dr manhattan bring here "
I think it's clear so far that molecular manipulation indeed can't do much to Sentry, so I'm calling a stalemate. "

i can agree with this, now this new powers of sentry, is this confirmed by marvel that it'll be permanent or just a temporary power set that he'll eventually lose?
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#47  Edited By Carolina574

Gotta go with Manhattan on this one, mainly because I think that he was designed to be god-like. Invincible, indestructible and all that of that mess. Plus the Sentry doesn't quite have it all together up-stairs and Dr. M doesn't really have to worry about his emotions getting in the way.

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#48  Edited By glforthewin

doctor manhattan. sentry would run away screaming because he doesn't like naked blue men. 

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#49  Edited By AtPhantom
@capall said:
" i can agree with this, now this new powers of sentry, is this confirmed by marvel that it'll be permanent or just a temporary power set that he'll eventually lose? "
No idea. In fact I doubt Marvel has any idea either. My guess is it'll never show up again, just like all of his other plot device feats.
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#50  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@glforthewin said:
sentry would run away screaming because he doesn't like naked blue men.  "
You do.