DR. manhattan vs Rune thor

"If you were comprehending, then you would know "reversing entropy" is not a small feat. "

"@forze said:

"If you were comprehending, then you would know "reversing entropy" is not a small feat. "

I'm just not seeing how that helps him win this fight, like at all. "

I'm trying to figure out the view on feats on this site, a lot of you contradict yourselves.  How does not knowing what somebody can do justify a loss for them?  just because you don't know "if" a person can do some things, does not mean they "Can't".  I think a lot of these threads are perpetuated by people who either is a fan of one of the aforementioned combatants or is a non-fan.  I love Thor he's a powerful character and he has done great things, but Dr. Manhattan is clearly on another level at least from the Movie Standpoint.  Sometimes basing battles from comic appearance is unfair especially when one of the characters has only been in one book.  He would lose every battle that way.  From what I gathered in the Novel and film Dr. Manhattan is still trying to figure himself out, and the little pieces he has figured out is more than enough to beat Thor come on. His power and skill set is far more "Godly" even he doesn't know what he can do, no Runes or Hammer needed....

Magic generally beats science and Dr. Manhattan is a science based character. Both are on god-like levels with the versions used but RK Thor is magic based. He wins. Dr. Manhattan might not be able to be killed by RK Thor, but at the very least he would be dumbfounded by the laws of physics that RK Thor would shatter. 

" @Postacrat:   Once again: speculation is worthless without feats to back it up.  I'm sorry but that's just how it is. "

@JediXMan said:

" @Postacrat:   Once again: speculation is worthless without feats to back it up.  I'm sorry but that's just how it is. "

Jedi to the rescue. I couldn't agree more. "

" RKT, beyond easily "

" I'm trying to figure out the view on feats on this site, a lot of you contradict yourselves.  How does not knowing what somebody can do justify a loss for them?  just because you don't know "if" a person can do some things, does not mean they "Can't"."

" @Postacrat said:

" I'm trying to figure out the view on feats on this site, a lot of you contradict yourselves.  How does not knowing what somebody can do justify a loss for them?  just because you don't know "if" a person can do some things, does not mean they "Can't"."

Well, you don't know if I can read minds, but I am fairly certain I can't.  You see, good arguments aren't won with "if".  You need facts to back up your case, and feats, or the characters showings in the comics are what we have to go on.  That is what justifies losses and wins in these theoretical debates, because if not, then the "ifs" go on forever.  "Well just because you haven't seen Dr. Manhattan do so and so, doesn't mean he can't." "Well just because Dr. Manhattan might be able to do so and so, then RKT might be able to do so, disabling DMs so and so." "But just because you haven't seen DM do so and so, and RKT might be able to do so and so, doesn't mean DM couldn't do so and so, beating RKT." Etc., etc., so forth and so on.  This is why people work hardcore with feats, because those are actual benchmarks we have to work with, the facts as it were.  Regardless of whether or not the character was in 2 or 200 issues, those issues are what we have to work with.  It might not be fair, but that is an issue you need to take up with the publishers and writers.  Like any good scientist, you need proof to prove your theories.  The proof doesn't lie in "ifs" and "buts". "

*claps hands* Well said! Very well said! "

I'm going with Dr M

Stop bumping +4 year old Doctor Manhattan mismatch threads just to say Doctor Manhattan wins.

He has literally 0% of a chance. Not even a fraction of a percentage, but LITERALLY zero.

Dr. Manhattan powers has become so great. He was confused with the Presence.

manhattan wins

Bump

Manhattan

How exactly you can beat something that doesn't exist? Dr. Manhattan can kill RKT but RKT can't kill Manhattan since there is nothing to kill other than he's manifested body look dode has complete control over matter which is to much for RKT matter minipulation resistance not to mention Manhattan can negate Thors magic but that's not all he can basically erase RKT with using time itself

@dean1: This thread is 11 years old. Up until recently, Manhattan wasn't very impressive