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#1 Posted by lordofthebrocean (657 posts) - - Show Bio
#2 Edited by The Mjolnir Wielder (7906 posts) - - Show Bio

Current Molecule Man is an absolute joke (Daken actually managed to fight back against his molecular manipulation), but he still could probably beat Manhattan.
#3 Posted by Goenitz (2064 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Mjolnir Wielder said:
" Current Molecule Man is an absolute joke (Daken actually managed to fight back against his molecular manipulation), but he still could probably beat Manhattan. "
Agree
#4 Posted by JediXMan (29675 posts) - - Show Bio
@Goenitz said:
" @The Mjolnir Wielder said:
" Current Molecule Man is an absolute joke (Daken actually managed to fight back against his molecular manipulation), but he still could probably beat Manhattan. "
Agree "
Agreed.
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#5 Posted by SlimJ87D (9355 posts) - - Show Bio

Don't people argue here that Dr. M > Sentry?
 
And recently Sentry > Molecule Man?

#6 Posted by Decoy Elite (30041 posts) - - Show Bio
@JediXMan said:
" @Goenitz said:
" @The Mjolnir Wielder said:
" Current Molecule Man is an absolute joke (Daken actually managed to fight back against his molecular manipulation), but he still could probably beat Manhattan. "
Agree "
Agreed. "
Yeah, this.
#7 Posted by CosmicSpiral (5471 posts) - - Show Bio
@SlimJ87D said:
" Don't people argue here that Dr. M > Sentry?  And recently Sentry > Molecule Man? "
Well, it was the Void side that displayed molecular manipulation. 
#8 Posted by SlimJ87D (9355 posts) - - Show Bio
@CosmicSpiral said:
" @SlimJ87D said:
" Don't people argue here that Dr. M > Sentry?  And recently Sentry > Molecule Man? "
Well, it was the Void side that displayed molecular manipulation.  "
So Void and Sentry working together > Dr. M? If people think MM > Dr. M
#9 Posted by gobstakid777 (1815 posts) - - Show Bio

Owen should be able to take this one

#10 Posted by Surge2477 (1101 posts) - - Show Bio

owen reece
#11 Posted by Hellos (8898 posts) - - Show Bio
@SlimJ87D said:
"Don't people argue here that Dr. M > Sentry?  And recently Sentry > Molecule Man? "

I argued he couldn't even harm the Sentry long before he was ripping Molecule Man to pieces, atleast I think I did. :P 
Manhattan doesn't have the feats to say he could kill anything as durable as the Sentry, since then Void / Sentry > easily Manhattan. 
 
Now for this, MM seems to have superior output than Manhattan, he was doing all sorts of interesting things to the Dark Avengers, not sure he lacks a method of completely getting rid of Manhattan, so either Stalemate or MM wins.
#12 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio

Molecule Man.

#13 Posted by capall (8278 posts) - - Show Bio

has owen been seriously down graded by marvel or is it just ppl making funny threads?

#14 Posted by pooty (10838 posts) - - Show Bio
@capall: Owen had one bad showing and now people think he's a punk.
#15 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio
@pooty said:
" @capall: Owen had one bad showing and now people think he's a punk. "
Agreed.
#16 Posted by gobstakid777 (1815 posts) - - Show Bio
@Static Shock said:
" @pooty said:
" @capall: Owen had one bad showing and now people think he's a punk. "
Agreed. "
double agreed
#17 Posted by SlimJ87D (9355 posts) - - Show Bio

What about Dr. Manhattans genius IQ? He is a pretty smart dude. I would say he is almost as smart as Mr. Fantastic, but can do some much quicker because he can will any invention he wants. 
 
Can Dr. M analyze MM and figure out a way to stop him?

#18 Posted by lordraiden (6957 posts) - - Show Bio
@Static Shock said:
" @pooty said:
" @capall: Owen had one bad showing and now people think he's a punk. "
Agreed. "

What was the bad showing?
#19 Edited by Hellos (8898 posts) - - Show Bio
@lordraiden said:

"What was the bad showing? "


Think they are referring to Sentry / Void taking him down, which I always took as just a really good showing for the Sentry, not a bad one for Owen.
#20 Posted by lordraiden (6957 posts) - - Show Bio
@Hellos said:
"@lordraiden said:
"What was the bad showing? "
Think they are referring to Sentry / Void taking him down, which I always took as just a really good showing for the Sentry. "

Exactly.  I wouldn't call that a bad showing, considering how powerfull Sentry/Void is atm.  And MM isn't gone, he'll be back. 
#21 Edited by Goenitz (2064 posts) - - Show Bio

 

Wins here
#22 Edited by Casket (311 posts) - - Show Bio

A normal Molecule Man should stomp, he wrecked planets, 
can mess with reality, beat the friggin Silver Surfer (who is above Dr M)
Molecule Man had all the elder cosmic entities bowing before him
and he went one on one with the Beyonder who was basically the total supreme unbeatable, all knowing God of Marvel universe
 
Then Bendis came along shook things up and had Molecule Man tripping over his own shoelaces

#23 Posted by Push (1552 posts) - - Show Bio

MM was retconned loooooong before Bendis came along.  Bendis didn't do anything to change the character other than how's been portrayed for some time.
#24 Edited by Casket (311 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah but post SecretWars Molecule Man was at least skyfather and could still beat Surfer.
He did silly things and had confidence issues but when push came to shove post Secret Wars still had some respectable level of power
 
 That power was there until Bendis depowered him even more into a guy who just does a party trick or two with molecules. The new Molecule Man has problems beating Daken and suffers a humiliating loss to Sentry 
 
Molecule Man is wrote with the worst level of continuity, either that 
or writers like Bendis just never understood the characters he wrote

#25 Edited by gobstakid777 (1815 posts) - - Show Bio
@Casket said:

" Yeah but post SecretWars Molecule Man was at least skyfather and could still beat Surfer. He did silly things and had confidence issues but when push came to shove post Secret Wars still had some respectable level of power   That power was there until Bendis depowered him even more into a guy who just does a party trick or two with molecules. The new Molecule Man has problems beating Daken and suffers a humiliating loss to Sentry   Molecule Man is wrote with the worst level of continuity, either that  or writers like Bendis just never understood the characters he wrote "

I absolutely agree with this. I always considered Post Retcon MM at least skyfather level, and like you said, he had a respectable level of power until Bendis fucked him hard. We should come up with a new category for MM when using him in battles= Pre Bendis
#26 Posted by FLCL1 (9580 posts) - - Show Bio

i dont think current MM can beat any one right about now -_-
#27 Posted by capall (8278 posts) - - Show Bio
@lordraiden said:
" @Hellos said:
"@lordraiden said:
"What was the bad showing? "
Think they are referring to Sentry / Void taking him down, which I always took as just a really good showing for the Sentry. "
Exactly.  I wouldn't call that a bad showing, considering how powerfull Sentry/Void is atm.  And MM isn't gone, he'll be back.  "
i would consider that bad writing since owen was at one point probably top 5 most powerful being and gets handled by sentry/void
#28 Posted by Bart Simpson (536 posts) - - Show Bio
@lordraiden said:
" @Hellos said:
"@lordraiden said:
"What was the bad showing? "
Think they are referring to Sentry / Void taking him down, which I always took as just a really good showing for the Sentry. "
Exactly.  I wouldn't call that a bad showing, considering how powerfull Sentry/Void is atm.  And MM isn't gone, he'll be back.  "
Agreed. Plus Owen killed Sentry 3 times in that fight before the Void finally finished off Owen. Not to mention in the New Avengers stories the combined might of SHIELD, the Fantastic Four,  the X-men, the New Avengers and Dr. Strange couldn't take down the Void, so why is Owen suddenly a loser because he got taken down by it too?
#29 Posted by xan84 (4286 posts) - - Show Bio

MM stomps ... M best feat is what blowing up a tank ? :P
#30 Posted by gobstakid777 (1815 posts) - - Show Bio

Any version of Owen, including the one that just lost to Sentry, would absolutely pawn

#31 Posted by Waffle Fries (884 posts) - - Show Bio

MM

#32 Posted by Ragnarokabyss (29 posts) - - Show Bio

MM should win here his power is on multiversal scale and Dr.M just on planetary scale ( maybe)

#33 Posted by Postacrat (496 posts) - - Show Bio

WTF is going on here?  Dr Manhattan easily stop playing ok?  He had a bad showing lol let's make this about power and not fans.  Matter fact I stand behind his showing and his powers may be limitless.  He can create I don't know how many duplicates of himself just as powerful.  People argue about his set opponents abilities to control molecules and matter like molecule man or Galactus.  What makes any of you think he's not as good at controlling his molecular powers as they are?  Is he not also an energy being forged by his own will?  How do you know he can't just make 10 duplicates the size of Galactus or bigger?  How do you know Galactus can absorb him or MM can do this guy in so easily?

#34 Posted by ssejllenrad (12847 posts) - - Show Bio

IMO  
 
PR MM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dr Manhattan >>> Current MM 
 
Just my 2 cents...

#35 Posted by JediXMan (29675 posts) - - Show Bio
@Postacrat: 
 
Molecule actually has good feats. Manhattan's best feat is blowing up a tank; in the movie, his best feat wasn't him, it was Ozy's machine (nuking a few cities).
 
Molecule Man has better feats. Speculation on how powerful Manhattan could be is worthless without feats to back it up; sorry. 
 
Dr. Manhattan is a low-medium tier matter manipulator. Nothing more.
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#36 Posted by daak1212 (7901 posts) - - Show Bio
@Casket said:
"A normal Molecule Man should stomp, he wrecked planets,  can mess with reality, beat the friggin Silver Surfer (who is above Dr M) Molecule Man had all the elder cosmic entities bowing before him and he went one on one with the Beyonder who was basically the total supreme unbeatable, all knowing God of Marvel universe  Then Bendis came along shook things up and had Molecule Man tripping over his own shoelaces "

Bendis is an asshole who nerfs people.  BEyonder, Molecule Man, amongst others
#37 Posted by Achilles. (3847 posts) - - Show Bio

dr m

#38 Posted by Wyldsong (5169 posts) - - Show Bio
@JediXMan said:
" @Postacrat:   Molecule actually has good feats. Manhattan's best feat is blowing up a tank; in the movie, his best feat wasn't him, it was Ozy's machine (nuking a few cities).  Molecule Man has better feats. Speculation on how powerful Manhattan could be is worthless without feats to back it up; sorry.   Dr. Manhattan is a low-medium tier matter manipulator. Nothing more. "
QFT
#39 Posted by Matezoide2 (15994 posts) - - Show Bio
@Wyldsong said:
" @JediXMan said:
" @Postacrat:   Molecule actually has good feats. Manhattan's best feat is blowing up a tank; in the movie, his best feat wasn't him, it was Ozy's machine (nuking a few cities).  Molecule Man has better feats. Speculation on how powerful Manhattan could be is worthless without feats to back it up; sorry.   Dr. Manhattan is a low-medium tier matter manipulator. Nothing more. "
QFT "
#40 Posted by Thepowercosmic (940 posts) - - Show Bio

MM

#41 Posted by Postacrat (496 posts) - - Show Bio
@JediXMan:  If that's the case the battles involving manhattan are a irrelevant since his feats don't surpass one book.  Why even battle him at all? Low tier matter manipulator is highly contrary to his skill and power set in All Data Bases including this ones and DC's, these are facts.  That feat with the tank was just that "a feat" not his only feet.  He can manipulate all matter and energy around him, in the watchmen's world when has he needed to do a MM feat?  My point is it's a dumb battle if you base it solely off feats with so little showings of manhattan, you would have to go off his data powerset and his tells me he can win. 
 
 Power over time and space,
Regeneration,
Energy and matter manipulation,
Flight,
Immortality,
Superhuman strength, speed and durability,
Intangibility,
Precognition,
Teleportation,
Self-duplication,
Superhuman growth  
--I'm done with this..
#42 Posted by Erik (31695 posts) - - Show Bio
@Static Shock said:
" @pooty said:
" @capall: Owen had one bad showing and now people think he's a punk. "
Agreed. "
I agree as well. But I do not think either really have a way to hurt one another.
#43 Posted by JediXMan (29675 posts) - - Show Bio
@Postacrat: 
 
I've read Watchmen. I've seen the movie (which I didn't think was as bad as some people say).
 
I know all of his feats. 
 
So you're saying that we should be allowed to speculate, huh? Okay. I speculate that Molecule Man is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent. 
 
There. Speculation isn't that fruitful, is it now?
 
PS: For the record, Molecule Man was pretty much omnipotent before his retcon.
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#44 Edited by Postacrat (496 posts) - - Show Bio
@JediXMan: your confusing constructive speculation with opinionated..in truth none of it's fruitful
#45 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio
@Postacrat: Molecule Man has fought Pre-Retcon Beyonder (who is more powerful than Dr. Manhattan) and has recreated a galaxy. All of Dr. Manhattan's abilities don't matter at this point.
#46 Posted by JediXMan (29675 posts) - - Show Bio
@Postacrat said:
" @JediXMan: your confusing constructive speculation with opinionated..in truth none of it's fruitful "
Actually, what I stated Molecule Man to be wasn't far from what he really was. He really was that powerful at one point.
 
So no, it's not opinionated. I certainly have more proof backing me.
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#47 Posted by Erik (31695 posts) - - Show Bio
@Static Shock said:
" @Postacrat: Molecule Man has fought Pre-Retcon Beyonder (who is more powerful than Dr. Manhattan) and has recreated a galaxy. All of Dr. Manhattan's abilities don't matter at this point. "
Except perhaps that he cannot be killed.
#48 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio
@Postacrat said:
" @JediXMan: your confusing constructive speculation with opinionated..in truth none of it's fruitful "
You aren't doing any better than he is. You're assuming Dr. Manhattan has what it takes to defeat Molecule Man, when there isn't enough evidence to support that he can win.
#49 Posted by JediXMan (29675 posts) - - Show Bio
@erik said:
" @Static Shock said:
" @Postacrat: Molecule Man has fought Pre-Retcon Beyonder (who is more powerful than Dr. Manhattan) and has recreated a galaxy. All of Dr. Manhattan's abilities don't matter at this point. "
Except perhaps that he cannot be killed. "
Nobody ever tried before. Ozy's machine, as Manhattan himself said, is the same thing that created him in the first place. Makes perfect sense that it wouldn't kill him.
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#50 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio
@erik said:
" Except perhaps that he cannot be killed. "
He could always dimension dump him somewhere else. LOL.