Dr. Manhattan (movie) vs. Vision w/Mjolnir (MCU)

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#1  Edited By rickythanos

The watchmen vs. avengers street leveler fight got me thinking about what IMO are the two most OP members of their teams.

-Vision has the mind gem, obviously, and it can be used in any way it has been used in the MCU thus far (to include how it was used as Loki's sceptre)

-Vision IS WORTHY, and has Mjolnir.

-Feats from the movies only; fight to incap or death (are either of these guys even mortal?), in-character, no BFR.

EDIT

Since Vibranium hasn't been thoroughly explored in the movies, let's allow comic feats/stats for the VIBRANIUM ITSELF (only) that Vision is made of.

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#2 nwname  Moderator  Online

Dr manhattan deatomizes vision.

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#3  Edited By rickythanos

Dr manhattan deatomizes vision.

I modified the terms of the fight a bit.

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#5 nwname  Moderator  Online

@leo-343: Why can't he just destroy vision on an atomic scale for insta win ?

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Dr Manhattan never destroyed anything or anyone on the atomic scale... He just made people explode

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#8  Edited By MisterGuyMan

I think Manhattan or stalemate. He doesn't need his body so Vision can destroy it over and over and there's no benefit.

Manhattan should be able to fry the internal circuitry or whatever is inside vision or else TP the mind gem to him. I don't think Vision is completely made of vibranium just his outer body.

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I know manhattan is a tad featless but come on. Hes still a reality warping god

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I think it could go either way, but I'm leaning towards Dr. Manhattan because of his atomizing powers.

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Stalemate.

Vision hasn't shown anything that could defeat Dr Manhattan and we don't know if Dr Manhattan's powers would work on Vision.

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#13  Edited By TheNaughtyTitan

@leo-343 said:

@nwgzsjuwhm96y2: Because destroying tanks and normal humans doesn't mean you can do the same to one of the most durable materials in fiction.

Yeah but attacks on an atomic scale are very different than other forms of attacks. Just being durable isn't enough, a character needs feats of resisting one of these attacks to say they could.

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let's allow comic feats/stats for the VIBRANIUM ITSELF (only) that Vision is made of.

Just saw this. Dumb rule.

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#14 nwname  Moderator  Online

@kute: yeah he is. Dr manhattan is underrated on comicvine. Also it is said that manhattan is connected to the universe itself. Somebody must be a universe buster to destroy him completely

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@thenaughtytitan said:

Just saw this. Dumb rule.

Why's that?

Because this is "MCU" Vision. Why give him an amp that's outside of the MCU?

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@leo-343 said:

Stalemate or Vision. Manhattan can't harm him.

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@nwgzsjuwhm96y2:

Yea they didnt flesh him out that great but this is extreme lowballing. I can think of a bunch of ways for him to win just from what was shown in the movie

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#19  Edited By DSTREET45

@rickythanos said:
@thenaughtytitan said:

Just saw this. Dumb rule.

Why's that?

Because this is "MCU" Vision. Why give him an amp that's outside of the MCU?

I think it was so people wouldn't say that Manhattan destroys Vison by messing with his intrinsic fields or something like that.

I only say that because of this.

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@misterguyman said:

I think Manhattan or stalemate. He doesn't need his body so Vision can destroy it over and over and there's no benefit.

Manhattan should be able to fry the internal circuitry or whatever is inside vision or else TP the mind gem to him. I don't think Vision is completely made of vibranium just his outer body.

This.

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#21  Edited By rickythanos

@the_caped_crusader said:
@misterguyman said:

I think Manhattan or stalemate. He doesn't need his body so Vision can destroy it over and over and there's no benefit.

Manhattan should be able to fry the internal circuitry or whatever is inside vision or else TP the mind gem to him. I don't think Vision is completely made of vibranium just his outer body.

This.

I'm curious as to what the Mind Gem could do to Manhattan. he doesn't experience time (or anything) the way humans do. I wonder if that would hold a bearing on how suseptible he'd be to mind r*pe.

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#22  Edited By stl9997

Mismatch of titanic proportions.

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#23  Edited By ManInTheMountain

Vision via TP

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What did vision do in the movie that was so impressive? I feel like on taking crazy pills here. Remind me of his feats

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@leo-343 said:

Stalemate or Vision. Manhattan can't harm him.

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Dr. Manhattan

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If anyone thinks Dr Manhattan is doing anything to comic vibranium, just go live you beautiful creature. The guy made normal humans and a tank explode... Wow. He didn't even de-atomise anything lol

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What was the mechanics of him imploding objects? Cant he just teleport stuff anyways? A reality warper who can walk on the sun and see the future and disintigrate things vs a featless android with a magic hammer

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He didn't disintegrate anything...

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Dr Manhattan has no feats to suggest he could harm Vision.

Either vision wins, or it's a stalemate.

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Dr. Manhattan has a few ways he could try to take down Vision. Vision has no ways to even attempt to take down Manhattan.

Manhattan could mess with the non-adamantium portions of Vision's body. He could teleport the soul gem away from Vision. He could teleport Vision into the sun or some other place. By contrast Manhattan doesn't even need a body. Nothing Vision can do will put Manhattan down.

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#37  Edited By Pokeysteve

Vision can't do anything to the Doc who doesn't need a body to survive. He's unbeatable here.

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@stl9997 said:

Mismatch of titanic proportions.

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The mcu wank is real this is a stalemate what is vision going to do to a guy who regenerated from being de atomized in seconds

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@superhumangod:

He could very well use the Hammer to atomize Dr. Manhattan

based on what? when did vision atomize someone with the hammer? thor's feats aren't vision's feats

even then manhattan can rebuild himself from nothing. mcu vision has nothing on dr manhattan

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Manhattan. Literally nothing vision could do. Tons of things Manhattan could do to Vision