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#1 Posted by ulitmateninjagaidenx (2064 posts) - - Show Bio

Battle: a very smart mad man dr doom vs the man of steel superman

#2 Posted by King Saturn (223985 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman is too fast and strong for Doom. Doom's magic wont have any power against Superman either.

#3 Posted by ulitmateninjagaidenx (2064 posts) - - Show Bio

King Saturn says:

"Superman is too fast and strong for Doom. Doom's magic wont have any power against Superman either. "

yeah superman can easy take out doom but dr doom have a history of stealing people powers like silver surfer, and odin he can do the same with superman.

#4 Posted by Dormammu (1248 posts) - - Show Bio

Odin and Surfer's powers are different from Superman's.

#5 Posted by Dormammu (1248 posts) - - Show Bio

Odin's is mystical and Surfer's is cosmic, whereas Superman's is due to absorbtion of Solar Radiation + his Kryptonian physiology.

#6 Posted by ulitmateninjagaidenx (2064 posts) - - Show Bio

Dormammu says:

"Odin's is mystical and Surfer's is cosmic, whereas Superman's is due to absorbtion of Solar Radiation + his Kryptonian physiology."

it don't matter if superman powers are different from odin and surfer it don't really mean any thing to doom , superman maybe powerful, but sups is soft he's very nice and that's his weakness, dr doom would not take on superman with out any plans to win againet superman, doom will just trick superman and steal his powers.

#7 Posted by Dormammu (1248 posts) - - Show Bio

The thing is Doom knows nothing of Superman, Superman's powers, or weaknesses.

#8 Posted by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio

The thing is that half of Dooms default attacks are magical which just happens to be Superman's weakness.

As often as I hear the phrase "Superman is too fast for so and so to hit" thrown around on varius boards, Superman gets tagged by people with no super speed whatsoever all the time.

Dr. Doom ftw.
Post Edited:2008-02-03 18:34:01

#9 Posted by ulitmateninjagaidenx (2064 posts) - - Show Bio

yeah your right but doom will end up spy on superman and see what he can do and know his weakness before planing anything if it was a crossover he did same to surfer when he flrst came to earth

#10 Posted by Dormammu (1248 posts) - - Show Bio

He could just steal Surfer's powers and beat Superman with them.

#11 Posted by Ms. Invisible (3292 posts) - - Show Bio

Colt Python says:

"Dormammu says:
"The thing is Doom knows nothing of Superman, Superman's powers, or weaknesses."

He doesn't have to know,he's Doom..he'll find out."

As Dormammu said, Dr. Doom doesn't have a plan unless he knows what he's up against. So he may be Dr. Doom - he's smart and intelligent and he's got the attacks to defeat Superman - but then what does that mean? He doesn't know what he's up against. Explain how he would find a way. Saying that he's Doom and saying he'll simply find out isn't good enough.

#12 Posted by Dormammu (1248 posts) - - Show Bio

Colt Python says:

"Ms. Invisible says:
"Colt Python says:
"Dormammu says:
"The thing is Doom knows nothing of Superman, Superman's powers, or weaknesses."
He doesn't have to know,he's Doom..he'll find out."
As Dormammu said, Dr. Doom doesn't have a plan unless he knows what he's up against. So he may be Dr. Doom - he's smart and intelligent and he's got the attacks to defeat Superman - but then what does that mean? *He doesn't know what he's up against*. Explain how he would find a way. Saying that he's Doom and saying he'll simply find out isn't good enough."
Ok how about this? Dr.Doom comes to the battle unaware of what Superman can do.He takes the first hit from Supes and it doesn't do much because his armor is really durable.Supes hits him with half of his full potential and breaks a large portion of the armor.Doom calls the Doombots.He hides amongst them while Superman rips through them one by one as he comes up with a plan.He may need to leave and return to the bettle with extra weaponry or he could just use his magic seeing as how Doom is an excellent sorcerer and Supes is a school girl against Magic."

Doom would probably retreat while Superman fights his Doombots. Considering that Superman is fighting Doom, it means the universes merged (I assume). So Doom would find someone with the common interest-defeating Superman. So Doom learns all about Superman's characteristics and weaknesses from Lex Luthor, and knowing Doom he would be able to devise a plan to defeat and steal Superman's powers. But right after stealing his powers, the Fantastic 4 come in and join up with Superman, getting his powers back and defeating Doom.

#13 Posted by Dormammu (1248 posts) - - Show Bio

Well how would Doom win then? Knowing no weaknesses or characteristics of Superman, how would Doom win?

#14 Posted by ulitmateninjagaidenx (2064 posts) - - Show Bio

Colt Python says:

"Ms. Invisible says:
"Colt Python says:
"Dormammu says:
"The thing is Doom knows nothing of Superman, Superman's powers, or weaknesses."
He doesn't have to know,he's Doom..he'll find out."
As Dormammu said, Dr. Doom doesn't have a plan unless he knows what he's up against. So he may be Dr. Doom - he's smart and intelligent and he's got the attacks to defeat Superman - but then what does that mean? *He doesn't know what he's up against*. Explain how he would find a way. Saying that he's Doom and saying he'll simply find out isn't good enough."
Ok how about this? Dr.Doom comes to the battle unaware of what Superman can do.He takes the first hit from Supes and it doesn't do much because his armor is really durable.Supes hits him with half of his full potential and breaks a large portion of the armor.Doom calls the Doombots.He hides amongst them while Superman rips through them one by one as he comes up with a plan.He may need to leave and return to the bettle with extra weaponry or he could just use his magic seeing as how Doom is an excellent sorcerer and Supes is a school girl against Magic."
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#15 Posted by POHOCOM (807 posts) - - Show Bio

Dr Doom would be able to beat Superman a million different ways. Doom easily conquered the Earth numerous times. Doom only loses when the challenge is gone. Like Batman, Dr Doom knows everything about his opponents, but he is 10 times smarter than Batman. Evidence suggests that he is the smartest human in the Marvel universe. Combine that with mastery of all sciences and the mystic arts...It takes entire teams to beat Doom, not one Superman.

#16 Posted by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio

POHOCOM says:

"Doom only loses when the challenge is gone."

Or when it comes to not putting scalding metal plate on your face.

#17 Posted by cpt_linger (2902 posts) - - Show Bio

cant see dr doom having the power to defeat supes.

#18 Posted by warlock360 (28050 posts) - - Show Bio

Hand 2 hand doom would get owned faster then he could breath, but with prep time... he could make it

#19 Posted by Vance Astro (91191 posts) - - Show Bio

cpt_linger says:

"cant see dr doom having the power to defeat supes."

Doom potentially can beat anyone who isn't on comic level.If they have a weakness and aren't smarter than him which is way less then half of the Marvel U.They're f#cked.

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#20 Posted by Supreme Marvel (11263 posts) - - Show Bio

If your saying Superman will lose, because of Doom knows magic well...

He can resist it. From experienced battling it.

#21 Posted by warlock360 (28050 posts) - - Show Bio

Dr. Doom is Second in Sorcerer Supreme and in another reality he IS Sorcerer Supreme... i say he can but doesnt have to

#22 Posted by Vance Astro (91191 posts) - - Show Bio

Supreme Marvel says:

"If your saying Superman will lose, because of Doom knows magic well... He can resist it. From experienced battling it."

That's all you got?

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#23 Posted by ULTRAstarkiller (6097 posts) - - Show Bio

doom hes the marvel equivalent to lex luther... i think

#24 Posted by justleader (1708 posts) - - Show Bio

superman should win this

#25 Posted by Dextersinister (5922 posts) - - Show Bio

@ULTRAstarkiller said:

doom hes the marvel equivalent to lex luther... i think

Lex Luthor is considered the smartest man on Earth so is effectively Reed with the same ego and sense of entitlement as Doom. Superman has this fight in the bag as although Doom would be smarter he is not fighting a super powered dullard, Doom and Luthor are both very intelligent but they both know the only reason there still breathing is because heroes don't kill.

#26 Posted by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

No prep? Superman.

With prep? Doom.

#27 Posted by MisterWhisper (1863 posts) - - Show Bio

How about this....

Superman is not bloodlusted, fo he is not going to fly in at light speed and splatter someone. He talks first.

In the 10 seconds that he talks Doom's armor scans him, notices his extreme levels of power.

Doom raises his hands to give up... Ovoid Mind Switch.

Now Doom has a nice kryptonian body to play around in.

Or If Superman does not talk first and just goes in swinging. He slams into a powerful shield and Doom's automatic defenses and shields buy him a second or 2 for him to screw Superman's world.

#28 Posted by Dextersinister (5922 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackadamFTW said:

No prep? Superman.

With prep? Doom.

I would give it to Superman 9/10 with prep. Doom makes his own stuff but Superman has a much better starting advantage and a better pool of resources and contacts.

#29 Posted by RoninOmega (27 posts) - - Show Bio

The thing is Dr. Doom never takes on a fight without knowing his opponent, he'll eventually find a way to subdue Superman!

#30 Posted by Dextersinister (5922 posts) - - Show Bio

@RoninOmega said:

The thing is Dr. Doom never takes on a fight without knowing his opponent, he'll eventually find a way to subdue Superman!

That's the same as the majority of Superman's villains.99% of Doom's fights are prep on his part just goes with being a genius villain and he stands a chance if he has prep and Superman doesn't but when Superman has prepared for fights the results have been frightening.

#31 Posted by Onemoreposter (4006 posts) - - Show Bio

For me this is the ultimate hero vs the ultimate villain. I don't even know. Morals on, this would be an epic EPIC battle.

#32 Posted by MisterWhisper (1863 posts) - - Show Bio

Let me add something to my previous point.

Superman would trash him like a joke if he was bloodlusted. Superman's biggest problem in his fights is the fact that he fights like Superman. He is his own biggest weakness, it hurts him much more than kryptonite.

#33 Posted by DarkScarecrow (363 posts) - - Show Bio

Su-pa-man.

#34 Posted by Delta1938 (480 posts) - - Show Bio

The vast majority of people here arguing for Doom are arguing Doom with Prep. But the OP didn't say with Prep, just said Doom is pissed off(and didn't specify a reason), so this is just a standard fight with the slight change of Doom is emo-raging for some reason. The others are arguing, "MAGICK MAGICK MAGICK!!! DOOM FTW!!! LULZ!!!" Which is completely inaccurate.

@MisterWhisper said:

How about this....

Superman is not bloodlusted, fo he is not going to fly in at light speed and splatter someone. He talks first.

In the 10 seconds that he talks Doom's armor scans him, notices his extreme levels of power.

Doom raises his hands to give up... Ovoid Mind Switch.

Now Doom has a nice kryptonian body to play around in.

Or If Superman does not talk first and just goes in swinging. He slams into a powerful shield and Doom's automatic defenses and shields buy him a second or 2 for him to screw Superman's world.

Does Doom normally do that? If not, I can just say Superman speed-blitzes him before it happens. And considering Superman's broken GL constructs rather easily, I think he can get through Doom's shields with a few punches.

@MisterWhisper said:

Let me add something to my previous point.

Superman would trash him like a joke if he was bloodlusted. Superman's biggest problem in his fights is the fact that he fights like Superman. He is his own biggest weakness, it hurts him much more than kryptonite.

Tell that to Major Force.

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#35 Posted by Sylvain (1640 posts) - - Show Bio

No Preps Superman

Preps Doctor Doom

#36 Posted by XImpossibruX (5170 posts) - - Show Bio

Still going with Dr. Doom

#37 Posted by Supermanwithatan01 (3594 posts) - - Show Bio

Doctor Doom no contest.

#38 Posted by mobsters (140 posts) - - Show Bio

@POHOCOM: doom looks like he suffers mental problems compared to bats

#39 Posted by jobbernos (1420 posts) - - Show Bio

@King Saturn said:

Superman is too fast and strong for Doom. Doom's magic wont have any power against Superman either.

#40 Posted by Pwok21 (2253 posts) - - Show Bio

Doom shields prevent Superman from hitting him, and he uses his magic to take him out.

Yes, that is without prep.

#41 Posted by dondave (35990 posts) - - Show Bio

Doom shields prevent Superman from hitting him, and he uses his magic to take him out.

Yes, that is without prep.

This

#42 Posted by Reignmaker (2235 posts) - - Show Bio

Most recent thread was killed so I'm bringing back the 5-year old one.

#43 Posted by UltraSuperTrooper (676 posts) - - Show Bio

Doom has handled more than superman. He takes this

#44 Posted by AlteredBeast (149 posts) - - Show Bio

With any amount of prep, Dr. Doom wins this. If this were a random encounter Super Man wins.

#45 Edited by rod1949us (90 posts) - - Show Bio

Doom Stomps. No way...Doom just doesn't stomp...Doom CURBSTOMPS.

Anybody that knows Doom's history should know Doom has defeated opponents stronger than Superman. No need to go any further. The end...

#46 Posted by Bezza (3455 posts) - - Show Bio

..makes me laugh when people say things like "doom curb-stomps!" So, Doom has beaten stronger opponents than Superman, so yes he is dangerous, but hasn't Superman defeated Darkseid and Doomsday before? I mean they are kinda out of Doom's league. I go for Superman to eventually edge a tight battle.

#47 Posted by spaceghost77 (29 posts) - - Show Bio

fine then...DOOM murderstomps..is that k with u...

#48 Posted by DarkRaiden (6895 posts) - - Show Bio

Doom wins via shields blocking Supes's attacks and magic putting him down for good.

#49 Posted by schism_79 (2 posts) - - Show Bio

Whenever I see Batman vs soandso, it always ends up with people saying "Batman with prep". No reason Doom can't have it as well

#50 Edited by nedawesome (11 posts) - - Show Bio

@king_saturn: Yes it will. Superman has always had trouble with magic. I think a better fight would be doom vs shazam or black adam.