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#1 Posted by WillPayton (9055 posts) - - Show Bio

vs

No prep, standard gear, basic knowledge of each other, to the death. Battle takes place in the middle of an intersection between two large evacuated streets.

Who wins?

#2 Posted by JediXMan (29296 posts) - - Show Bio

Magneto stomps. What kind of question is this? A guy whose skin is completely covered in metal vs a guy who controls metal? Really?

#3 Edited by WillPayton (9055 posts) - - Show Bio

@jedixman said:

Magneto stomps. What kind of question is this? A guy whose skin is completely covered in metal vs a guy who controls metal? Really?

While true, movie Magneto doesnt have the kind of control that comic book Magneto does. Movie Magneto cant snap his finders and instantly kill Doom... whatever he does will take time. That can make a big difference in a fight.

#4 Edited by Illuminatus (9481 posts) - - Show Bio
@willpayton said:

@jedixman said:

Magneto stomps. What kind of question is this? A guy whose skin is completely covered in metal vs a guy who controls metal? Really?

While true, movie Magneto doesnt have the kind of control that comic book Magneto does. Movie Magneto cant snap his finders and instantly kill Doom... whatever he does will take time. That can make a big difference in a fight.

Doom's only real advantage would be his energy projection capabilities. If Doom goes into the encounter knowing (this is being inferred from your parameters) that Magneto can manipulate metallic objects, I would say he has a clear cut idea of how to proceed: kill Magneto quickly before Lensher flattens him. Can he do it? I doubt it. Magneto seems to be able to "sense" or "smell" metal, per his own words from the film, so it stands to reason he has an insurmountable advantage over Doom. I think he would lay into Doom the moment he makes contact with him.

#5 Posted by JediXMan (29296 posts) - - Show Bio

@jedixman said:

Magneto stomps. What kind of question is this? A guy whose skin is completely covered in metal vs a guy who controls metal? Really?

While true, movie Magneto doesnt have the kind of control that comic book Magneto does. Movie Magneto cant snap his finders and instantly kill Doom... whatever he does will take time. That can make a big difference in a fight.

  • He can casually snap his fingers to control Wolverine.
  • He can casually snap his fingers and rip iron from a man who had "too much" in his blood (artificially added, but still a small amount of iron that is less than Doom)
  • Snatched the Black Bird out of the air as it fell to the Earth, repairing it in the process. He did not appear to have any trouble with this feat.
  • The lifted the Golden Gate bridge (read: almost 900 tons)
  • He easily changed the programing of a false Cerebro.
  • He tosses cars with ease.
  • He flipped a large armored truck.

Yes, he most certainly can instantly kill Doom. He's already manipulated heavier things than Doom. At the absolute least, he can immobilize Doom, preventing Doom from doing anything to defend himself and giving Magneto all the time in the world to do whatever he pleases.

There's no way Doom can win this.

#6 Edited by Illuminatus (9481 posts) - - Show Bio

I like how JXM lists the 900 ton bridge-lifting feat, but finishes off with flipping armored trucks. :p

On a side note, how charged up is Doom going into the fight? In the first film, he takes about five to ten seconds of time just siphoning energy from nearby electrical devices. If he's forced to do that here (being at an intersection and all), what's stopping Magneto from just crushing him?

#7 Edited by JediXMan (29296 posts) - - Show Bio

I like how JXM lists the 900 ton bridge-lifting feat, but finishes off with flipping armored trucks. :p

It was in order of when I recalled the feats :P

... except I remembered the Black Bird thing last, and for some reason I just tossed it in the middle.

#8 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (11447 posts) - - Show Bio

Seems like a mismatch to me, unless Doom had the Silver Surfers board he gets stomped

#10 Posted by JediXMan (29296 posts) - - Show Bio

Seems like a mismatch to me, unless Doom had the Silver Surfers board he gets stomped

Wasn't the board actually metal in the movie? Couldn't he get knocked off rather easily?

That movie was so stupid. Even then, Magneto has a shot...

#11 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (11447 posts) - - Show Bio

@jedixman said:

@ancient_0f_days said:

Seems like a mismatch to me, unless Doom had the Silver Surfers board he gets stomped

Wasn't the board actually metal in the movie? Couldn't he get knocked off rather easily?

That movie was so stupid. Even then, Magneto has a shot...

I can't assume it's metal, since it isn't of earth and all and there was nothing to sugest it was....I doubt Victor could get knocked off easily, since it took a lot for Johnny to even knock him out in the first place, he was pretty stuck to it. I agree the movie was pretty bad...Surfer got chumped by Reed so easily, no cosmic awareness to warn him or nothing....Magneto could possibly put up a fight against Doom Surfer, but I doubt he could win

#12 Posted by NorrinBoltagonPrime21 (5399 posts) - - Show Bio

Unless Doom can get a shot in with his electricity, Magneto stomps.

#13 Posted by WillPayton (9055 posts) - - Show Bio

I think people are forgetting that Doom had really good durability in the movie, and Magneto doesnt. All Doom needs is one bolt of electricity to take out Mags, and he doesnt have to point his hand at him or anything like that.

#14 Edited by Uncanny_Doom (360 posts) - - Show Bio

@willpayton said:

@jedixman said:

Magneto stomps. What kind of question is this? A guy whose skin is completely covered in metal vs a guy who controls metal? Really?

While true, movie Magneto doesnt have the kind of control that comic book Magneto does. Movie Magneto cant snap his finders and instantly kill Doom... whatever he does will take time. That can make a big difference in a fight.

Wasn't he flipping cars like they were extensions of his hands in X-Men 3? Everything Magneto ever did in the X-Men trilogy seemed pretty effortless from what I remember.

This is an interesting fight. The potential for a one shot is pretty much there for both sides, Doom's durability and speed makes or breaks the fight.

#15 Edited by JediXMan (29296 posts) - - Show Bio

I think people are forgetting that Doom had really good durability in the movie, and Magneto doesnt. All Doom needs is one bolt of electricity to take out Mags, and he doesnt have to point his hand at him or anything like that.

How's he going to do that if Magneto just freezes him on the spot? He can be as durable as he wants; it won't stop him from being paralyzed. Nobody is saying that Magneto can crush him with objects; he can just crush him, period.

Magneto has very good reaction speed. He fired and caught a bullet at close range to prove a point. While he himself did fire it, the the fact that he caught it the way he did is a good feat.

#16 Posted by dakkad00d (119 posts) - - Show Bio

Magneto stomps, if you add in the feats done in First Class, then much more so (hello flying submarine feat).

#17 Posted by The Stegman (22788 posts) - - Show Bio

As Jedi mentioned

Guy that controls metal>>Guy covered in metal.

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