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#1 Posted by Zenma (4970 posts) - - Show Bio

who'll win?

#2 Posted by Shanana (52807 posts) - - Show Bio

i think Ds will win because i've seen the full extent of his powers i havent sen dooms

#3 Posted by Zenma (4970 posts) - - Show Bio

Sha says:

"i think Ds will win because i've seen the full extent of his powers i havent sen dooms"

hmmmm....well think about it you said you haven't seen the full extent of Dr. Doom, but has seen sidious, well imagine Dr. Doom's full extent, but sidious is powerful

#4 Posted by Shanana (52807 posts) - - Show Bio

well i dont know!

#5 Posted by Zenma (4970 posts) - - Show Bio

hey!... what if it was on their lightning attacks?

#6 Posted by Vance Astro (91067 posts) - - Show Bio

Doom,by miles.

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#7 Posted by Alexander Anderson (4030 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm going to say Doom, although this is much closer than the Vader versus Doom battle.

#8 Posted by Legendary Bio Vishanti (3333 posts) - - Show Bio

eganthevile1 says:

"Sidious, armor doesnt make a differance when a guy can choke you to death with his mind!"

While being shocked by thousands of volts of electricity...

#9 Posted by EganTheVile1 (6191 posts) - - Show Bio

Sidious, armor doesnt make a differance when a guy can choke you to death with his mind!

#10 Posted by EganTheVile1 (6191 posts) - - Show Bio

Legendary Bio Vishanti says:

"eganthevile1 says:
"Sidious, armor doesnt make a differance when a guy can choke you to death with his mind!"
While being shocked by thousands of volts of electricity..."
I was going to point that out too, but figured someone would say Doom has a lightning rod, lol
#11 Posted by The_Martian (36980 posts) - - Show Bio

Doom.

#12 Posted by King Saturn (223723 posts) - - Show Bio

Dr. Doom puts Sidious to sleep.

#13 Posted by Vrakmul (23398 posts) - - Show Bio

aztek the lost says:

"what you seem to forget is that Dr. Doom is the second most powerful practicer of magic in the Marvel Universe as well as the second most brilliant mind...I say Doom, easy"

Yeah but doom wears metal, not good against someone who uses electricity. Not good at all. Though doom would win 9/10. He won't go out unscathed, he'll get one hell of a nasty shocking. Then get sidious.
Post Edited:2008-03-06 21:09:24

#14 Posted by Alexander Anderson (4030 posts) - - Show Bio

Dreadnaught says:

"aztek the lost says:
"what you seem to forget is that Dr. Doom is the second most powerful practicer of magic in the Marvel Universe as well as the second most brilliant mind...I say Doom, easy"

Yeah but doom wears metal, not good against someone who uses electricity. Not good at all. Though doom would win 9/10. He won't go out unscathed, he'll get one hell of a nasty shocking. Then get sidious.
Post Edited:2008-03-06 21:09:24"

I figure a man as smart have Doom would have electrical insulation built in to his armor. But given how powerful Sidious is, I agree that Doom would take some hits before he pulled off a victory.

#15 Posted by Vrakmul (23398 posts) - - Show Bio

Alexander Anderson says:

"Dreadnaught says:
"aztek the lost says:
"what you seem to forget is that Dr. Doom is the second most powerful practicer of magic in the Marvel Universe as well as the second most brilliant mind...I say Doom, easy"

Yeah but doom wears metal, not good against someone who uses electricity. Not good at all. Though doom would win 9/10. He won't go out unscathed, he'll get one hell of a nasty shocking. Then get sidious.
Post Edited:2008-03-06 21:09:24"

I figure a man as smart have Doom would have electrical insulation built in to his armor. But given how powerful Sidious is, I agree that Doom would take some hits before he pulled off a victory."

Yeah, Doom probably won't be expecting the force Sidious puts behind his Force lightning he sent yoda flying with one shot And the fact that compared to vader, Sidious is a god. Any way I have to go.

#16 Posted by Vance Astro (91067 posts) - - Show Bio

Dreadnaught says:

"aztek the lost says:
"what you seem to forget is that Dr. Doom is the second most powerful practicer of magic in the Marvel Universe as well as the second most brilliant mind...I say Doom, easy"
Yeah but doom wears metal, not good against someone who uses electricity. Not good at all. Though doom would win 9/10. He won't go out unscathed, he'll get one hell of a nasty shocking. Then get sidious.
Post Edited:2008-03-06 21:09:24"

If Johnny Storm who can get as hot as the sun can't beat Doom alone,what makes you think Sidious can?

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#17 Posted by Vance Astro (91067 posts) - - Show Bio

Dreadnaught says:

"Alexander Anderson says:
"Dreadnaught says:
"aztek the lost says:
"what you seem to forget is that Dr. Doom is the second most powerful practicer of magic in the Marvel Universe as well as the second most brilliant mind...I say Doom, easy"
Yeah but doom wears metal, not good against someone who uses electricity. Not good at all. Though doom would win 9/10. He won't go out unscathed, he'll get one hell of a nasty shocking. Then get sidious.
Post Edited:2008-03-06 21:09:24"
I figure a man as smart have Doom would have electrical insulation built in to his armor. But given how powerful Sidious is, I agree that Doom would take some hits before he pulled off a victory."
Yeah, Doom probably won't be expecting the force Sidious puts behind his Force lightning *he sent yoda flying with one shot* And the fact that compared to vader, Sidious is a god. Any way I have to go."

Storm uses lightning too and she couldn't beat Doom.

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#18 Posted by DragonGateAcer (5400 posts) - - Show Bio

i go with doom

#19 Posted by The Iron Spider (580 posts) - - Show Bio

doom. especially when he gets silver surfer's powers by getting the board

#20 Posted by Slinger (7640 posts) - - Show Bio

Lightning probably wouldn't hurt Doom at all, the armor would just ground it right out, the lightning will look for the path of least resistance, which isn't going to be through doom, but the metal armor. The only trouble with lightning would be if he has electronics in his suit, they would get fried by the e.m.p. The choking on the other hand would be problematic, but it looks like it takes a lot of concentration, and Doom wouldn't just gasp for breath and grab his throat. I have to say Doom embarrasses Sidious.

#21 Posted by DOMINIS (138 posts) - - Show Bio

Sidious would win. Lightning is far from being the extent of his power.

#22 Posted by lordraiden (6895 posts) - - Show Bio

Sidiious, way too much raw power at his disposal!

#23 Posted by Iron MK II (203 posts) - - Show Bio

as far as the lightning potential goes i give it to doom easy, but over all sideous could pretty much use doom as his pet monkey, i mean sideous did manage to take out an entire fleet just with the force, all that power on just doom i think is abit much.
this isnt what i like im more a doom fanboy, but somethings just dont go how u want them

#24 Posted by DOMINIS (138 posts) - - Show Bio

What is the most powerful display Doom has done with lightning? I know Sidious once killed three dark prophets at the same time using lightning with one hand, and the only thing left of the dark prophets were charred bones. Sidious also killed an entire legion of storm troopers with lightning.

#25 Posted by Nerx (15088 posts) - - Show Bio

Sidious, call in the death star or send a horde of siths to kill doom

#26 Posted by Iron MK II (203 posts) - - Show Bio
DOMINIS said:
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What is the most powerful display Doom has done with lightning? I know Sidious once killed three dark prophets at the same time using lightning with one hand, and the only thing left of the dark prophets were charred bones. Sidious also killed an entire legion of storm troopers with lightning.

"
lol i would give sidious's lightning more singing bonus for just leaving those pfrofets with chared bones, but doom's would have more power, in the movie fantastic 4 befor he had his armour and was bearly the total potential he is now he put a whole clean through a dude. looked awsome the lighting btw was like some saught of blue beam.
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#27 Posted by DOMINIS (138 posts) - - Show Bio

Doom put a hole in that guys body because he directed it to that one spot. Sidious's lightning went throughout his opponents entire bodies. Doom used his lightning on regular humans, while Sidious used his lightning on powerful force users.

#28 Posted by Iron MK II (203 posts) - - Show Bio

fair point, i didnt know about that. still this doesnt change the fact the in the end sideous still wins, because his powers reach far beyond a simple lightning bolt.

#29 Posted by DOMINIS (138 posts) - - Show Bio

Sidious's powers that i know of:


Powerful force lightning

Telekenetically throw enormous objects

Destroy entire starfleets with a wormhole/force storm

Drain others of their life energy

See deep in the future

Can cast illusions

Can dominate other minds

Can disintegrate metal  objects, such as a lightsaber or over a ton of machinery Leia tried to crush him with

Survive death and inhabit other bodies

#30 Posted by Iron Doom (864 posts) - - Show Bio

DD CURBSTOMP bc he will incinerate sidious before he can even move

#31 Posted by DOMINIS (138 posts) - - Show Bio

Sorry but Sidious is on a whole nother level than Doom. There is no way Doom can win.

#32 Posted by oldmagic (5295 posts) - - Show Bio

Dr. Doom easily. Magic and abilities that are far more powerful then his opponent.  

#33 Posted by Lunacyde (17632 posts) - - Show Bio

Sidious is powerful....no doubt about that but really if doom has prep he will take him down. Doom is quite a bit smarter than Sidious... Sidious is a master persuader and crafty but his overall intelligence is nothing compared to Victor Von Doom. Add in magic and the fact that with time Doom can probably negate most of Sidious's powers and he wins.

#34 Posted by LightBright (4297 posts) - - Show Bio

Dr. Doom by far.

#35 Posted by Lunacyde (17632 posts) - - Show Bio

Doom has taken on being MUCH mor epowerful than Sidious before.....Beyonder.....Galactus.....entire teams of Superheroes....


Besides as I remember Luke was taking lightening for a while and was still alive....and Vader wasnt even phased by it when he threw him down the reactor shaft..of course he felt it afterwards lol but that isnt my point.....I love Star Wars but Doom takes this man.

Not to mention Doom has ridiculously powerful forcefields/shields...I dont think the force lightening does a thing to him

#36 Posted by D34DP001 (73 posts) - - Show Bio

Doom. He probably won't even fight himself. He'd probably use Doombots to toy with him and then when it's all over, gloat and kill Sidious himself.

#37 Posted by Lunacyde (17632 posts) - - Show Bio
D34DP001 said:
"Doom. He probably won't even fight himself. He'd probably use Doombots to toy with him and then when it's all over, gloat and kill Sidious himself."

Right on
#38 Posted by Mr. Wilson (6322 posts) - - Show Bio
Lunacyde said:
"D34DP001 said:
"Doom. He probably won't even fight himself. He'd probably use Doombots to toy with him and then when it's all over, gloat and kill Sidious himself."

Right on"
#39 Posted by Tevnoba (3494 posts) - - Show Bio

Actually Doom wins this.  Sidious Force Lighting and Choke powers aren't going to do anything against Doom's Magically Based Defenses.

#40 Posted by DOMINIS (138 posts) - - Show Bio

Doom smarter than Sidious? I think not. Sidious outsmarted an entire galaxy. He used his superior intellect to create and maintain a galactic empire to where it could not survive without him. Doom can not even conquer earth. The force is all about raw power and magic. Sidious's knowledge of magic comes from over a thousand different worlds.

If they have an all out war, Sidious beats him by far. I don't think Doombots would be a match for over trillions of stormtroopers, dark jedi, thousands of stardestroyers, millions of tie fighters, and numerous different planet destroying superweapons. Jerec alone can take out 100 Doombots.

Don't say Doom would win with prep, because Sidious's specialty is prep. Sidious carefully planned out an entire galactic war, and at the same time hid his true identity from powerful force users in plain site.

#41 Posted by oldmagic (5295 posts) - - Show Bio
DOMINIS said:
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Doom smarter than Sidious? I think not. Sidious outsmarted an entire galaxy. He used his superior intellect to create and maintain a galactic empire to where it could not survive without him. Doom can not even conquer earth. The force is all about raw power and magic. Sidious's knowledge of magic comes from over a thousand different worlds.

If they have an all out war, Sidious beats him by far. I don't think Doombots would be a match for over trillions of stormtroopers, dark jedi, thousands of stardestroyers, millions of tie fighters, and numerous different planet destroying superweapons. Jerec alone can take out 100 Doombots.

Don't say Doom would win with prep, because Sidious's specialty is prep. Sidious carefully planned out an entire galactic war, and at the same time hid his true identity from powerful force users in plain site.

"
lol actually Doom outsmarted omnipotent beings. He did conquer earth. Doom is the next in line after Dr. Strange. 
#42 Posted by DOMINIS (138 posts) - - Show Bio

Sidious was able to defy prophecy. If doom is able to outsmart beings like galactus, than Sidious would be  able to. Conquering one planet  does not compare to conquering millions for over 2 decades. Galactus seems to be outsmarted and overpowered quite often, by numerous of different beings. Its called bad writing.

How can Doom win with prep, when Sidious is able to see into the future(the best tool for prep)? This is how Sidious was a stepahead of the jedi, was because of his uncanny ability to see in the future.

#43 Posted by Lunacyde (17632 posts) - - Show Bio

Can Sidious go back in time? I dont think so. Even though Star Wars tech is supposed to be 1000s of years more advanced Doom has still invented stuff that they can only dream of.

Like I said already Doom has defeated opponents far superior in power and intellect to Sidious...Get real dude....

And since you mentioned how he hid his true identity from powerful force users that is just bad storytelling....within 5 minutes of watching a movie 12 year old kids could tell the guy was a rotten apple....and no one noticed...the Jedi couldnt tell....give me a break...poor writing

#44 Posted by oldmagic (5295 posts) - - Show Bio

You just don't get it do you?This is a one on one battle. And Sedius doesn't pass the test when it comes to raw power comparable to Doom. Tell me one thing, could Sedious penetrate the forcefield that Doom could create? Because so far, the only on who was able to penetrate it was Sentry. 

#45 Posted by Zenma (4970 posts) - - Show Bio

how bout when sidious  uses his light saber?

#46 Posted by oldmagic (5295 posts) - - Show Bio
Zenma said:
"how bout when sidious  uses his light saber?"
It won't work. Light sabers could easily be stopped by force fields or certain types of energy fields. I'm going to use a movie version for example seeing as it's easily then the book. But take the first movie for example. Obi was stuck behind a force field as he was forced to watch the fight between Qui Gon against...i can't remember his name. but anyway, he tested the force field with his light saber and it didn't do anything. Thus, Sedious light sabers are nothing but useless.
#47 Posted by Lunacyde (17632 posts) - - Show Bio

Besides who says Doom would come in close enough to use a lightsaber on...

#48 Posted by Tevnoba (3494 posts) - - Show Bio
Zenma said:
"how bout when sidious  uses his light saber?"
Sidious can not generate forces necessary in his light saber to destroy small moons, Doom's force field has been hit by things that powerful in the past and it did nothing.

Also, saying Sidious has the magic from 1,000's of worlds is not right either.  He understands the Force and forced based ritual magic (to some extent) - Doom plays with spells and forces that dwarf anything that Sidious has done.

Sidious, did not conquer the Galaxy, he conquered the Government - there is a difference.  And even then was opposed by the rebellion.  The only reason Doom has not succeded in doing the same is that he has been challenged by stronger, multiple points of resistance.
#49 Edited by oldmagic (5295 posts) - - Show Bio
Tevnoba said:
"Zenma said:
"how bout when sidious  uses his light saber?"
Sidious can not generate forces necessary in his light saber to destroy small moons, Doom's force field has been hit by things that powerful in the past and it did nothing.

Also, saying Sidious has the magic from 1,000's of worlds is not right either.  He understands the Force and forced based ritual magic (to some extent) - Doom plays with spells and forces that dwarf anything that Sidious has done.

Sidious, did not conquer the Galaxy, he conquered the Government - there is a difference.  And even then was opposed by the rebellion.  The only reason Doom has not succeded in doing the same is that he has been challenged by stronger, multiple points of resistance."
and this causes him to find other ways to succeed those oppositions. 
#50 Posted by The Man of Yesteryear (5502 posts) - - Show Bio

Doom wins, but has he had a major power upgrade or something?

Last time i read anything with him (not including Infinity Gauntlet), Spiderman was giving him a hard time. Spidey even tripped him with a few marbles.