Dr Doom vs Cable
What equipment and versions of each character?
Doom can slaughter him if he has his full magics. He might not even need it.
Doom´s prep will always be superior to Cable´s prep."
everybody always saying doom is some kind of god with prep well tell me something...how come that with all his prep he always gets his ass and his so called plans handed to him by the freakin fantastic four? Lol
" @texasdeathmatch said:yeah, well Michael Jackson tried that, look at what happened to him" @ckal: poor Cable. And he thought he was so cool with his super powers... "He was trying to send a message to everyone around the world.
If this were Savior Cable, he could defeat Doom with raw and concentrated psionic power alone. Otherwise, normal Cable and normal Doom would be interesting. Doom has knowledge of magic as well as his armor tech, Cable has an arsenal of resources for weaponry. Unless Cable could use his militant strategy and manage to take down Doom by somehow negating the armor tech, Doom would win.
" @progenitor said:" If this were Savior Cable, he could defeat Doom with raw and concentrated psionic power alone.? "
Savior Cable alone was able to hold up an island using TK and as well as briefly put up a show of power against the Surfer. Even though he ended up getting knocked down, I still think that kind of power focused on one enemy would overwhelm Doom. I mean, let's face it, Doom was at The Sentry's mercy when Sentry just physically grabbed him.
" @progenitor: No. Please read the arguments in this thread: http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/dr-doom-vs-shaman-x-man-and-sersi/533322/ "
I'll be sure to look into it.
It was already stated from the people of Marvel that he was a tad too powerful, so they were just going to depower him back to the way he originally was before displaying his powers. X man is basically Cable without the Techno organic virus to hold back his powers, when he was in the Burnt Offering he had the power of the X man. Read the X man's biography, its stated that he is more powerful than the Dark Phoenix. When Rachel Summers was was using the Phoenix force she beat Galactus, this is said in her biography. Like I said before Cable is better than his sister because he saved her from someone named Gaunt in Cable 85-86. I know for a fact that Dr Doom can't beat Galactus and I could post that battle between them a hundred times. How does he just get his techno organic arm ripped off, when it doesn't affect him anymore? He was at full power. This was Marvel's way of securing future story lines by having Cable being depowered in a retarted way. Marvel does this. They had Cyclops beat Apocalypse just to make more future story lines. On top of that Dr Doom got beat by squirrel girl. Cable without his powers could have beaten squirrel girl, Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan and even me could have beaten squirrel girl.
@Mr Golden Rod said:
It really doesn't matter what their biographies say, X-Man is not more powerful than the Phoenix Force or Galactus." It was already stated from the people of Marvel that he was a tad too powerful, so they were just going to depower him back to the way he originally was before displaying his powers. X man is basically Cable without the Techno organic virus to hold back his powers, when he was in the Burnt Offering he had the power of the X man. Read the X man's biography, its stated that he is more powerful than the Dark Phoenix. When Rachel Summers was was using the Phoenix force she beat Galactus, this is said in her biography.
- X-Man is not Cable.
- Cable did not have the power of X-Man. He had the power of Cable.
- X-Man has the same level that Dark Phoenix displayed. Not more.
- Rachel Summers was more powerful than Dark Phoenix.
- Rachel Summers did not have access to her Phoenix powers when Cable saved her. Gaunt enslaved Rachel with devices, he did not overpower her. There is no reason to think that Cable would have or could have overcome the devices either.
- Your logic about depowering Cable is only an opinion and nothing more.
- Squirrel Girl is a parody character. She beats everyone.
This will explain everything between X man and Cable.
Relationship to Cable
Nate Grey (X-Man) is the Age of Apocalypse version of Nathan Christopher Summers ( Cable). Both are descended from the genetic material of Scott Summers and Jean Grey: Nate was grown in a laboratory in an alternate dimension by Mr. Sinister from the genes of Scott and Jean, and Cable was born to Scott and Madelyne Pryor (a clone of Jean Grey also created by Mr. Sinister). Due to their genetic similarities, Nate and Cable have identical psychic profiles, resulting in a painful feedback to both parties when they are in close proximity to each other. Both are physically quite similar, with the same glowing left eye and blanched hair (though to different degrees due to age). Moreover, when Cable was de-aged in Cable and Deadpool, he greatly resembled Nate Grey.
However, Nate and Cable are distinct in a number of ways. First, Nate, having done no time traveling, is much younger than Cable. Second, Nate is much more powerful than Cable, due to Cable's techno-virus infection which requires continuous use of Cable's power to keep at bay. Finally, Cable possesses extensive military and weapons skills as a result of being raised in a war torn future ruled by Apocalypse, while Nate primarily relies on his considerable mutant powers.
The juxtaposition of the two characters allowed writers to address issues of identity and nature versus nurture and explore the complex nature of family relationships in the X-Men world.
That is completely wrong. X-Man was created using genetic material from Jean and Scott. Cable is born of Scott and Madelyne. They are genetically similar, not equal. X-Man is just as genetically similar to Cable as he is to Rachel. In other words, they are more like siblings than copies of one another. Also, using wikipedia as your source generally ruins your argument. It is an unreliable source.
Hey erik, where are you getting your information from? Your right about X man having power equal to the Dark Phoenix. But your wrong about everything else. I looked up Rachel Summers on Wikipedia where they have information from a vast number of sources.Rachel Summers isn't more powerful than the Dark Phoenix. Your information about Gaunt isn't right at all, I have both comics with me. The information I have above comes from comics I personally own and Wikipedia. You lose, sign off, game over.
Hey everyone check out how big erik's ego is. I have given valuable information and even sources. I have even perfectly explained it. He still wants to argue because Dr Doom is his role model. He probably dresses up as him on Halloween. Most likely he wears Dr Doom pajamas, he even got a tattoo called I heart Dr doom.
" Hey erik, where are you getting your information from? Your right about X man having power equal to the Dark Phoenix. But your wrong about everything else. I looked up Rachel Summers on Wikipedia where they have information from a vast number of sources.Rachel Summers isn't more powerful than the Dark Phoenix. Your information about Gaunt isn't right at all, I have both comics with me. The information I have above comes from comics I personally own and Wikipedia. You lose, sign off, game over. "Hey look, the wikipedia expert. Where I could just edit the page to read that Nate's a homo. But hey, it's on wikipedia, so obviously it's true.
"@Edamame: Cable fully powered is more powerful than the Phoenix. His sister Rachel Summers beat Galactus using the Phoenix Force, Cable is better than his sister who did this. "
Nope, the man couldn't even handle the Surfer who steamrolled him across the planet, so I have my doubts he can match up with the Phoenix.
"@Mr Golden Rod said:you say that like if SS i some school yard bitch. But hey!!!! if you cant even handle the Surfer, you mind aswell not even have superpowers, cause your pretty weak!!!"@Edamame: Cable fully powered is more powerful than the Phoenix. His sister Rachel Summers beat Galactus using the Phoenix Force, Cable is better than his sister who did this. "Nope, the man couldn't even handle the Surfer who steamrolled him across the planet, so I have my doubts he can match up with the Phoenix. "
"you say that like if SS i some school yard bitch. But hey!!!! if you cant even handle the Surfer, you mind aswell not even have superpowers, cause your pretty weak!!! "
He certainly isn't weak by fictional standards, problem is his boss gets knocked around by Phoenix Avatars and they should likely be too much for the Surfer to handle.
dude its your wording that gets me...i mean, fictional standards!??!?!?!? as opposed to um lets say, verified science using the scientific method, in the real world......................
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