" @Ferro Vida: The difference is that Kalndicar was willing to throw the characters he likes under the bus for the characters he likes more. Like Domino/X-23. "Ya that was great
Dr. Doom vs. Batman
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" @Undergroundgod said:" @Ferro Vida said:I wasn't even referring to that with the second point! You eluded to that when you said you can't picture Joker as a protagonist, despite the fact that he has his own award-winning mini series. "" @Undergroundgod: 1) ... Protagonist =/= hero. Seriously. Pay attention in English class. 2) Reed Richards? Bruce Banner? Tony Stark? 3) I'm not even dignifying this with sarcasm. "What are you talking about? These guy's are Hero's/Protagonists, yeah I know! When did I lead on that I didn't understand what portagonist means? "
They had to change alot about the character in that mini series. In order to change a villian to a hero, you have to make changes, that was all I was saying! I might have misunderstood your question. All I know right now, is I feel like I am under attack for thinking Batman would win, which is never cool.
" @Undergroundgod: Read my above statement and stop this nonsense "
Yes I understood and ageed, with what you said.
" @Lance Uppercut: Oh f@ck, that still gives me nightmares. He was actually arguing that it was an omega level chicken. "Haha don't forget when he was trying to explain that genetics and cloning
@Son_of_Magnus said:
" @Lance Uppercut said:" @Ferro Vida: The difference is that Kalndicar was willing to throw the characters he likes under the bus for the characters he likes more. Like Domino/X-23. "Ya that was great "
We had to convince him for what, thirty minutes before he started using the chicken scan he tried so hard to argue against in another thread
" @Undergroundgod: You always think Batman would win. I have never seen you admit that he won't win, despite the fact that all of your arguments have been dismantled. "
How? If you are telling me that Doom would have really won every time he lost, and Batman would have lost every time he won, over the years... I am sorry, I just don't agree with that.
" @Ferro Vida said:No ones ever said any of those things." @Undergroundgod: You always think Batman would win. I have never seen you admit that he won't win, despite the fact that all of your arguments have been dismantled. "How? If you are telling me that Doom would have really won every time he lost, and Batman would have lost every time he won, over the years... I am sorry, I just don't agree with that. "
" @Ferro Vida said:When did I say anything about Batman? I'm saying that there are numerous instances where Doom had to lose because if he won the story would lose its protagonist. I said nothing about Batman other then that if he faced Doom in his own book he would have to win because it is his book." @Undergroundgod: You always think Batman would win. I have never seen you admit that he won't win, despite the fact that all of your arguments have been dismantled. "How? If you are telling me that Doom would have really won every time he lost, and Batman would have lost every time he won, over the years... I am sorry, I just don't agree with that. "
" @Lance Uppercut: Using Wikipedia to back himself up, no less. One of these days I might just track down his "medical practice" (COUGH Mother's basement). "
Your right he sounds bad, who uses Wikipedia? They have a lot of wrong, LOL.
I am a Batman fan your right. But no more than a Captain America fan, or a Iron Man fan. I just don't see Bruce not being able to deal with Victor, knowing what I know about him. Knowing the names who have took him down over the years, I think Batman is more than qualified to take him down too. Why do you feel the need to put him bellow Marvel heros, because he is human, because he can't fly without aid, what is it?
" Y'know, it's times like these, reminiscing when I almost miss Klandicars zany antics. "Ya he was great when you had nothing to do but surf the web. He could kill hours like it was nothing
" @Undergroundgod said:" @Ferro Vida said:When did I say anything about Batman? I'm saying that there are numerous instances where Doom had to lose because if he won the story would lose its protagonist. I said nothing about Batman other then that if he faced Doom in his own book he would have to win because it is his book. "" @Undergroundgod: You always think Batman would win. I have never seen you admit that he won't win, despite the fact that all of your arguments have been dismantled. "How? If you are telling me that Doom would have really won every time he lost, and Batman would have lost every time he won, over the years... I am sorry, I just don't agree with that. "
In a legitimate Batman kind of fashion, that was all I was saying.
" @Ferro Vida said:You also thought Batman was going to do him in with knockout gas, and your only argument for Batman winning is "look at who Doom fights and loses to". Comparing Dooms rogues gallery to Batmans is like comparing apples to a fruit no ones heard of because it sucks." @Lance Uppercut: Using Wikipedia to back himself up, no less. One of these days I might just track down his "medical practice" (COUGH Mother's basement). "
Your right he sounds bad, who uses Wikipedia? They have a lot of wrong, LOL.
I am a Batman fan your right. But no more than a Captain America fan, or a fan. I just don't see Bruce not being able to deal with Victor, knowing what I know about him. Knowing the names who have took him down over the years, I think Batman is more than qualified to take him down too. Why do you feel the need to put him bellow Marvel heros, because he is human, because he can't fly without aid, what is it? "
" @Ferro Vida said:No, only because it was his own book. It's the same way Bruce has killed Superman in his own book." @Undergroundgod said:In a legitimate Batman kind of fashion, that was all I was saying. "" @Ferro Vida said:When did I say anything about Batman? I'm saying that there are numerous instances where Doom had to lose because if he won the story would lose its protagonist. I said nothing about Batman other then that if he faced Doom in his own book he would have to win because it is his book. "" @Undergroundgod: You always think Batman would win. I have never seen you admit that he won't win, despite the fact that all of your arguments have been dismantled. "How? If you are telling me that Doom would have really won every time he lost, and Batman would have lost every time he won, over the years... I am sorry, I just don't agree with that. "
"Seriously. If they made a fruit from donkeys balls, that would be Batmans rogues gallery.LMFAEIOU and sometimes Y "Comparing Dooms rogues gallery to Batmans is like comparing apples to a fruit no ones heard of because it sucks.
" @Lunacyde said:You don't like Batman's Rogue Gallery?"Seriously. If they made a fruit from donkeys balls, that would be Batmans rogues gallery. "LMFAEIOU and sometimes Y "Comparing Dooms rogues gallery to Batmans is like comparing apples to a fruit no ones heard of because it sucks.
" @Son_of_Magnus said:Ok you got me on escape and angry and controlling but being Bruce's oldest son he currently has the entire Wayne fortune" Tim Drake is better than Batman in everything but fighting and building sh!t "How about escape artistry? and being angry and controlling and being rich. "
" @Undergroundgod said:" @Ferro Vida said:You also thought Batman was going to do him in with knockout gas, and your only argument for Batman winning is "look at who Doom fights and loses to". Comparing Dooms rogues gallery to Batmans is like comparing apples to a fruit no ones heard of because it sucks."" @Lance Uppercut: Using Wikipedia to back himself up, no less. One of these days I might just track down his "medical practice" (COUGH Mother's basement). "
Your right he sounds bad, who uses Wikipedia? They have a lot of wrong, LOL.
I am a Batman fan your right. But no more than a Captain America fan, or a fan. I just don't see Bruce not being able to deal with Victor, knowing what I know about him. Knowing the names who have took him down over the years, I think Batman is more than qualified to take him down too. Why do you feel the need to put him bellow Marvel heros, because he is human, because he can't fly without aid, what is it? "
No I was not the one who brought up the gas! I only said it sounded like something that would happen in a comic. I said durring one of Dooms listen to me talk about how awsome I am, speeches, Batman would just let himself out, or take Doom out, or throw a Bat a rang into the computer consel that Doom was going to use to destroy everyone. I was making a joke!
" @Lance Uppercut: He has some stinkers, but so does everyone. As a whole Batman's Rogue Galleries is one of the best IMO. "Same Batman and Flash at a close second are my favorites
" @Lunacyde said:" @Lance Uppercut: He has some stinkers, but so does everyone. As a whole Batman's Rogue Galleries is one of the best IMO. "Same Batman and Flash at a close second are my favorites "
Mine too!
Dr. Doom. Bats is all that and everything. But Doom is a sorcerer, master tactician, and a genius. I guarantee he has everything Bats does. Plus some. I mean, he has been said to have been in the running for Sorcerer Supreme. Plus, he has some awesome toys and is the third smartest. (Valerie Richards takes the 1/2 spot. Said to be as smart as Reed or smarter.)
" @Lance Uppercut said:" @Lunacyde: El Sombrero and Maxwell Lord are pretty cool, but most of his rogues seem trivial IMO "Well he is mainly a street level hero. "
And his rogues work for the level he's on.
honestly the only one i think batman could win is the one with no prep time doom may be stronger but Bat's taken out alot stronger guys than him but doom with prep would win
Dr. Doom easily...Batman doesn´t stand a chance. What´s he going to do? Throw batarangs? Gas? Explosives? One blaster ray of Dr. Doom's enough to close the deal.
" Dr. Doom easily...Batman doesn´t stand a chance. What´s he going to do? Throw batarangs? Gas? Explosives? One blaster ray of Dr. Doom's enough to close the deal. "This.
Did any one out of 10 pages pic batman.. for ANY of the scenarios? haha... Maybe if Batman can use the Justice League.. Then he wins one...
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