Nice turn Kimikirai
Dr. Doom Vs Apocalypse!!!
@Edamame:
I'm no expert on Apocalypse, but on his page, I see the following:
Apocalypse has virtually unlimited strength.
His transmutation ability limits aren’t known.
He has an awesome healing factor.
Technically he can resurrect himself.
He’s got some telepathic, telekinetic, and psionic abilities.
Apocalypse has been known to teleport.
He has transferred his consciousness into other bodies.
I am by NO MEANS counting Doom out of this fight, especially easily. But I don't think that a genius human would defeat the (supposedly) oldest mutant in the world. I just think you might be counting Doom as the winner a little early, my friend. With one hour prep time, Doom MIGHT possibly win it, but I doubt it. Doom is a brilliant genius, but I'm not sure he's one-hour-to-beat-Apocalypse genius. Know what I mean? In a random encounter, ALL my money goes on Apocalypse!!
Apocalypse has virtually unlimited strength. - I don't know that anyone has calculated Doom's strength in armor but I grant that Apocalypse is stronger.
His transmutation ability limits aren’t known. - I believe he has to retain him mass. (I think).
He has an awesome healing factor. - His armor does certainly. Not sure how it stands up to magic.
Technically he can resurrect himself. - I am presuming this is either him transfering his conciousness or using a sarchophagus neither of which is inherent to Apocalypse.
He’s got some telepathic, telekinetic, and psionic abilities. - I think these can be countered with magic and Tech in Dooms Armor.
Apocalypse has been known to teleport. - Not in combat that I am aware of.
He has transferred his consciousness into other bodies. - So can Doom. Both of them have to use Tech to do so.
@Edamame:
Sure! I just can't see Doom (a mortal human) defeating Apocalypse, especially when neither of them know they're going to fight. Sure, Doom's got weapons and genius, but Apocalypse has just as much, if not more. Telepathy, telekinesis, helaing factor, unlimited strength.....NONE of which Doom has. Plus, just as Doom can fly, so can Apocalypse. I'm not an expert on either character, by any means, so I'll ask honestly (because I don't know) what magical powers does Doom have that can take Apocalypse ? (Meaning, how would he use them to defeat Apocalypse ?)
My vote is to the good doctor. For Victor Von Doom shall prevail, though it will be a hard fought battle. That, however, depends on if Apoc has his "I forgot such an such power/resource" factor on or not.
"My vote is to the good doctor. For Victor Von Doom shall prevail, though it will be a hard fought battle. That, however, depends on if Apoc has his "I forgot such an such power/resource" factor on or not. "
Well the man has so many powers its hard to keep track of them. :P
" @Ultimate Joker said:Don't try and mask the truth! Admit it! Apoc has finally gotten Alzheimer's after all these centuries. =p"My vote is to the good doctor. For Victor Von Doom shall prevail, though it will be a hard fought battle. That, however, depends on if Apoc has his "I forgot such an such power/resource" factor on or not. "Well the man has so many powers its hard to keep track of them. :P "
" My vote is to the good doctor. For Victor Von Doom shall prevail, though it will be a hard fought battle. That, however, depends on if Apoc has his "I forgot such an such power/resource" factor on or not. "Well there are no writers in the battle forums sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
It's my opinion for both fights that they'll be hard fought, though mostly on the fight with prep. Random battle I'll give it to Doom with more ease given his immense magical prowess." Why aren't people commenting their opinions on the rules of both fights? "
@geraldthesloth
said:Actually, there are countless threads with "Croc WITHOUT jobber aura" and "Croc WITH Jobber aura" in the title or rules, as well as tweaks done to the abilities of the opponents such as removing Martian Manhunter's psychic talents for a fight, or disallowing speed blitzing or BFR, etc. I don't recall the OP stating what power set Apoc's got for this fight and since his writing can be all over the place on which power he gets whenever, it's kinda in the air from my POV." @Ultimate Joker said:
Well there are no writers in the battle forums sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. "" My vote is to the good doctor. For Victor Von Doom shall prevail, though it will be a hard fought battle. That, however, depends on if Apoc has his "I forgot such an such power/resource" factor on or not. "
" @Ultimate Joker said:" My vote is to the good doctor. For Victor Von Doom shall prevail, though it will be a hard fought battle. That, however, depends on if Apoc has his "I forgot such an such power/resource" factor on or not. "Well there are no writers in the battle forums sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. "
We are the writers of the battle forums, formulating what these characters will do!
Although we don't often include the text or a majority of the details involved in the story line, but hey its free!
" @Edamame: So do you think that Doom could beat Magneto? (I do.) "
He has. A couple of times IIRC
I figured. A lot of people say that Doom would automatically lose because of the whole magnetic thing, but Doom is SOOOO much smarter than that. I think its ridiculous for anyone to think that Doom would go into a battle against Magneto with ANY kind of metal. Whatev.
" @Edamame said:I believe Beyonder let them use his tech in Secret Wars." @Thanos1992: I don't even think that Doom has handled Celestial Technology before. "isnt it at the same level as galactuses technology doom has taken galactuses power before and in any case reed richards could under stand it so that means doom can but in any case doom loses apocalypse is a power house and a prep master "
" @Lance Uppercut said:Beyonders Tech.Celestial tech seems a little outdated in comparison." @Thanos1992 said:beyonders tech or celestials tech? in any case doom most likely appocarch is to steal apocalypses power his usual routine (If you cant beat him with your own power than jack his power) "" @Edamame said:I believe Beyonder let them use his tech in Secret Wars. "" @Thanos1992: I don't even think that Doom has handled Celestial Technology before. "isnt it at the same level as galactuses technology doom has taken galactuses power before and in any case reed richards could under stand it so that means doom can but in any case doom loses apocalypse is a power house and a prep master "
" @Thanos1992 said:And the Beyonders" @Lance Uppercut said:Doom stole Galactus' powers in Secret Wars. "" @Thanos1992: I don't understand the question "what exactly did doom do when he used the beyonder tech? i heard he had taken galactus power by stealing it by some device "
this makes no since. i thought it took the x-men and the brotherhood together and they still couldnt beat apocalypse.
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