Dr. Doom Vs Apocalypse!!!

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#151  Edited By warlock360

Nice turn Kimikirai

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#152  Edited By crabtree

 apocalypse wins

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#153  Edited By Son_of_Magnus

Doom absolutely destroy him

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I'm going with Apocalypse.
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@Edamame: 

  I'm no expert on Apocalypse, but on his page, I see the following:

Apocalypse has virtually unlimited strength.

His transmutation ability limits aren’t known.

He has an awesome healing factor.

Technically he can resurrect himself.

He’s got some telepathic, telekinetic, and psionic abilities.

Apocalypse has been known to teleport.

He has transferred his consciousness into other bodies.   
 
I am by NO MEANS counting Doom out of this fight, especially easily.  But I don't think that a genius human would defeat the (supposedly) oldest mutant in the world.  I just think you might be counting Doom as the winner a little early, my friend.   With one hour prep time, Doom MIGHT possibly win it, but I doubt it.  Doom is a brilliant genius, but I'm not sure he's one-hour-to-beat-Apocalypse genius.  Know what I mean?  In a random encounter, ALL my money goes on Apocalypse!!          

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Sorry, man.  I gotta disagree with ya.
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#161  Edited By Griffin_2099
@The Time Keeper:

Apocalypse has virtually unlimited strength. - I don't know that anyone has calculated Doom's strength in armor but I grant that Apocalypse is stronger.

His transmutation ability limits aren’t known. - I believe he has to retain him mass. (I think).

He has an awesome healing factor. - His armor does certainly. Not sure how it stands up to magic.

Technically he can resurrect himself. - I am presuming this is either him transfering his conciousness or using a sarchophagus neither of which is inherent to Apocalypse.

He’s got some telepathic, telekinetic, and psionic abilities. - I think these can be countered with magic and Tech in Dooms Armor.

Apocalypse has been known to teleport. - Not in combat that I am aware of.

He has transferred his consciousness into other bodies. - So can Doom. Both of them have to use Tech to do so.

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@Edamame: 

Sure!  I just can't see Doom (a mortal human) defeating Apocalypse, especially when neither of them know they're going to fight.  Sure, Doom's got weapons and genius, but Apocalypse has just as much, if not more.  Telepathy, telekinesis, helaing factor, unlimited strength.....NONE of which Doom has.  Plus, just as Doom can fly, so can Apocalypse.  I'm not an expert on either character, by any means, so I'll ask honestly (because I don't know) what magical powers does Doom have that can take Apocalypse ?  (Meaning, how would he use them to defeat Apocalypse ?)    

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#163  Edited By geraldthesloth

Apocalypse kills him.

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#164  Edited By Hellos

End with Doom and Apoc 

 
 
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#165  Edited By Ultimate Joker

My vote is to the good doctor. For Victor Von Doom shall prevail, though it will be a hard fought battle. That, however, depends on if Apoc has his "I forgot such an such power/resource" factor on or not.

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#166  Edited By Hellos
@Ultimate Joker said:
"My vote is to the good doctor. For Victor Von Doom shall prevail, though it will be a hard fought battle. That, however, depends on if Apoc has his "I forgot such an such power/resource" factor on or not. "

Well the man has so many powers its hard to keep track of them. :P
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Why aren't people commenting their opinions on the rules of both fights?
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#168  Edited By Ultimate Joker
@Hellos said:
" @Ultimate Joker said:
"My vote is to the good doctor. For Victor Von Doom shall prevail, though it will be a hard fought battle. That, however, depends on if Apoc has his "I forgot such an such power/resource" factor on or not. "
Well the man has so many powers its hard to keep track of them. :P "
Don't try and mask the truth! Admit it! Apoc has finally gotten Alzheimer's after all these centuries. =p
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#169  Edited By Hellos
@The Time Keeper said:
"Why aren't people commenting their opinions on the rules of both fights? "

People haven't been doing that since page one, atleast thats how it looks pages 1-6.
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#170  Edited By geraldthesloth
@Ultimate Joker said:
" My vote is to the good doctor. For Victor Von Doom shall prevail, though it will be a hard fought battle. That, however, depends on if Apoc has his "I forgot such an such power/resource" factor on or not. "
Well there are no writers in the battle forums sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
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#171  Edited By Ultimate Joker
@The Time Keeper said:

" Why aren't people commenting their opinions on the rules of both fights? "

It's my opinion for both fights that they'll be hard fought, though mostly on the fight with prep. Random battle I'll give it to Doom with more ease given his immense magical prowess. 
 

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@Ultimate Joker said: 

" My vote is to the good doctor. For Victor Von Doom shall prevail, though it will be a hard fought battle. That, however, depends on if Apoc has his "I forgot such an such power/resource" factor on or not. "

Well there are no writers in the battle forums sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. "
Actually, there are countless threads with "Croc WITHOUT jobber aura" and "Croc WITH Jobber aura" in the title or rules, as well as tweaks done to the abilities of the opponents such as removing Martian Manhunter's psychic talents for a fight, or disallowing speed blitzing or BFR, etc. I don't recall the OP stating what power set Apoc's got for this fight and since his writing can be all over the place on which power he gets whenever, it's kinda in the air from my POV.
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#172  Edited By Hellos
@geraldthesloth said:
" @Ultimate Joker said:
" My vote is to the good doctor. For Victor Von Doom shall prevail, though it will be a hard fought battle. That, however, depends on if Apoc has his "I forgot such an such power/resource" factor on or not. "
Well there are no writers in the battle forums sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. "

We are the writers of the battle forums, formulating what these characters will do! 
Although we don't often include the text or a majority of the details involved in the story line, but hey its free!
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Dr Doom would OWN Apocalypse!

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@Edamame:
So do you think that Doom could beat Magneto?  (I do.)
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#176  Edited By Lance Uppercut
@The Time Keeper said:
" @Edamame: So do you think that Doom could beat Magneto?  (I do.) "

He has. A couple of times IIRC
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I figured.  A lot of people say that Doom would automatically lose because of the whole magnetic thing, but Doom is SOOOO much smarter than that.  I think its ridiculous for anyone to think that Doom would go into a battle against Magneto with ANY kind of metal.  Whatev.
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#179  Edited By sevennames27

 
 
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Good question. 
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#182  Edited By tunsafun6059
@Korg: After Doctor Strange lost his Sorcerer Surpreme Status and went looking for the new one he admitted that Doom might be far above even his mastery of the magics
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#183  Edited By sevennames27

 
 
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#186  Edited By Lance Uppercut
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Don't use Bendis as an example. Never use Bendis as an example.
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#187  Edited By Lance Uppercut
@Thanos1992 said:
" @Edamame said:
" @Thanos1992: I don't even think that Doom has handled Celestial Technology before. "
isnt it at the same level as galactuses technology doom  has taken galactuses power before and in any case reed richards could under stand it so that means doom can but in any case doom loses apocalypse is a power house and a prep master "
I believe Beyonder let them use his tech in  Secret Wars.
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#189  Edited By Lance Uppercut
@Thanos1992 said:
" @Lance Uppercut said:
" @Thanos1992 said:
" @Edamame said:
" @Thanos1992: I don't even think that Doom has handled Celestial Technology before. "
isnt it at the same level as galactuses technology doom  has taken galactuses power before and in any case reed richards could under stand it so that means doom can but in any case doom loses apocalypse is a power house and a prep master "
I believe Beyonder let them use his tech in  Secret Wars. "
beyonders tech or celestials tech?  in any case doom most likely appocarch is to steal apocalypses power his usual routine (If you cant beat him with your own power than jack his power) "
Beyonders Tech.Celestial tech seems a little outdated in comparison.
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#190  Edited By Lance Uppercut
@Thanos1992: I don't understand the question
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#191  Edited By FLCL1

i like dr.doom more so dr.doom ftw lol

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#192  Edited By sevennames27

Doctor Voodoo: Avenger of the Supernatural #5
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#194  Edited By Lance Uppercut
@Edamame said:
" @Thanos1992 said:
" @Lance Uppercut said:
" @Thanos1992: I don't understand the question "
what exactly did doom do when he used the beyonder tech? i heard he had taken galactus power by stealing it by some device "
Doom stole Galactus' powers in Secret Wars. "
And the Beyonders

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#196  Edited By cascadeking09

this makes no since. i thought it took the x-men and the brotherhood together and they still couldnt beat apocalypse.

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#199  Edited By cascadeking09

but i still dont think doctor doom could take out a whole team of x-men.