Dr. Doom Vs Apocalypse!!!

Maybe it has been done, because its a classic showdown, just want to verify something. First with 24 hours prep time, second fight random encounter.

Apocalypse easily win. Apocalypse absorbed part of celestial's pwoer in their spaceship. And apocalypse already defeated avengerse and x-men. moreover, apocalypse can alter a reality when he absorbed twelve mutant's power.

K-AOTIC says:

"do you know how powerfull is apocalypse hes a match for the hulk.doom on the other hand no match for the hulk nor apocalypse."

24 hours prep time, Doom could make Hulk his bitch.

Considering Doom = Reed Richards, and Reed Richards has defeated Glactacus... 24-hour prep time is enough for Doom to devise a method of destroying Apocalypse.

Doom 7/10

Bump. Haven't heard any real reasons, for either one to claim victory.

Apocalypse. He doesn't even really need prep time. The guy has been alive for millennia. He has contingency plans for all types of things. He has access to Celestial technology, and is an incredible genius in his own right. The only thing that kept him from taking over the world was the emergence of Charles Xavier onto the mutant world stage. If not for that, Doom would still be just another member of the Human High Council =P

Korg says:

"Apocalypse. He doesn't even really need prep time. The guy has been alive for millennia. He has contingency plans for all types of things. He has access to Celestial technology, and is an incredible genius in his own right. The only thing that kept him from taking over the world was the emergence of Charles Xavier onto the mutant world stage. If not for that, Doom would still be just another member of the Human High Council =P"

Well, he has had access to Celestial technology for a long time and couldn't conquer the world with it. Dr Doom is the master of contingency plans so nothing there either, and Apoc can be a genius but is not smarter than Doom. I don't think any of this points, are really overwhelming evidence against Doom, he has enough raw power and magical abilities to hold his own in direct confrontation. Thanks for the answer.

Warlock360 says:

"spekqj says:

"Apocalypse easily win. Apocalypse absorbed part of celestial's pwoer in their spaceship. And apocalypse already defeated avengerse and x-men. moreover, apocalypse can alter a reality when he absorbed twelve mutant's power."

oh yeah wait, nothing doom hasn't done several times"

Exactly.

apocalypse definitely

lionheart says:

"apocalypse definitely"

I just love this answers.

Korg says:

"Apocalypse. He doesn't even really need prep time. The guy has been alive for millennia. He has contingency plans for all types of things. He has access to Celestial technology, and is an incredible genius in his own right. The only thing that kept him from taking over the world was the emergence of Charles Xavier onto the mutant world stage. If not for that, Doom would still be just another member of the Human High Council =P"

Agreed...

I know Doom is the 2nd smartest man on Earth... But against Apocalypse!? THE SMARTEST MUTANT ON EARTH? Doom can not beat that.

Perfect Cell says:

"Korg says:

"Apocalypse. He doesn't even really need prep time. The guy has been alive for millennia. He has contingency plans for all types of things. He has access to Celestial technology, and is an incredible genius in his own right. The only thing that kept him from taking over the world was the emergence of Charles Xavier onto the mutant world stage. If not for that, Doom would still be just another member of the Human High Council =P"

Agreed...

I know Doom is the 2nd smartest man on Earth... But against Apocalypse!? THE SMARTEST MUTANT ON EARTH? Doom can not beat that.

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Doom cannot beat what? Please explain...

Perfect Cell says:

"Korg says:

"Apocalypse. He doesn't even really need prep time. The guy has been alive for millennia. He has contingency plans for all types of things. He has access to Celestial technology, and is an incredible genius in his own right. The only thing that kept him from taking over the world was the emergence of Charles Xavier onto the mutant world stage. If not for that, Doom would still be just another member of the Human High Council =P"

Agreed...

I know Doom is the 2nd smartest man on Earth... But against Apocalypse!? THE SMARTEST MUTANT ON EARTH? Doom can not beat that.

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Doom cannot beat what? Please explain...

Bump!!!

Slight says:

"Apocolypse. Why is every one putting worth while characters up against Dr.Doom he is basicly useless. Even in Fantastic Four comics the Skrulls give them more problems than doom ever did. He is a genius, but you cant win like that alone. Apocolypse has had experience with every type of power there is and survived not to mention his power and strenght"

I would like to know, what people are thinking when they, post things like this.

Apoc survived several millenia and is destined for more, where is Doom in the future. The celestials run the whole show, I doubt mysticizm can trump that. A mind swap is no good, they can both do it. Physically Apocalypse wins. I'd have to say Apocalypse wins all around. I know alot about Apoc but not too much of Doom, but Doom once said that he had more power in his one glove than the entire scheme of Onslaught, and was a key factor in Onslaughts destruction. I'm lost, I say they destroy each other and everyone around them.

Apocalypse.  Doom loses to the freaking Fantastic Four.

It takes huge groups of X-Men that far outpower the Fantastic Four to beat Apocalypse.

The only Doom that would even have a chance against him is Unthinkable Doom.

Apocalypse both fights

The only thing I see Apocalypse having trouble with is Doom's mystic abilities. I don't know enough about them to say how they'd factor into the fight, but I do know they are quite formidable (second to Doc Strange?). Anyone else?

"clayton said:

"Apoc survived several millenia and is destined for more, where is Doom in the future. The celestials run the whole show, I doubt mysticizm can trump that. A mind swap is no good, they can both do it. Physically Apocalypse wins. I'd have to say Apocalypse wins all around. I know alot about Apoc but not too much of Doom, but Doom once said that he had more power in his one glove than the entire scheme of Onslaught, and was a key factor in Onslaughts destruction. I'm lost, I say they destroy each other and everyone around them."

President of the United States with cyberpathy and adimantium armor. LOL.

Seriously. Apocalypse, with Celestial technology, has NEVER conquered the world. Doom has conquered the world twice. He beat Galactus, Silver Surfer, Thor, Pre-Retcon Beyonder.

Doom for the win."

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En Sabah Nur

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If you compare how they have faired when fighting powerful opponents Dooms record is far more impressive. Also Doom has had much more success even though he wasnt born with any mutant powers. Doom had to work for everything and he conquered the world twice, as well as having his own country and even ruling his own planet at one time.

Apocalypse overall has not had as much success even though he is basically indestructable and has had millenia to do it.

Apocalypse is the ultimate underrachiever

Doom is the ultimate overachiever

"Kimikirai said:

"clayton said:

"Apoc survived several millenia and is destined for more, where is Doom in the future. The celestials run the whole show, I doubt mysticizm can trump that. A mind swap is no good, they can both do it. Physically Apocalypse wins. I'd have to say Apocalypse wins all around. I know alot about Apoc but not too much of Doom, but Doom once said that he had more power in his one glove than the entire scheme of Onslaught, and was a key factor in Onslaughts destruction. I'm lost, I say they destroy each other and everyone around them."

President of the United States with cyberpathy and adimantium armor. LOL.

Seriously. Apocalypse, with Celestial technology, has NEVER conquered the world. Doom has conquered the world twice. He beat Galactus, Silver Surfer, Thor, Pre-Retcon Beyonder.

Doom for the win."

Did doom ever rule the universe and give it up out of boredom, or was that Thanos."

"Doom"

Doom has a time machine....he goes back into time and kills Apocalyspe before he gets his advanced technology....there easy

Step on him.

Lets be honest.  Doom gets beaten by the Fantastic Four.  The only member of the Fantastic Four that could even scratch Apocalypse is Sue.

Step on him.

Lets be honest.  Doom gets beaten by the Fantastic Four.  The only member of the Fantastic Four that could even scratch Apocalypse is Sue.

There is no way he should ever lose to Fantastic Four....ohh wait fantastic Four are the heroes...they are supposed to win....ohh geez who would have thunk it?

You can't tell me that he doesnt usually lose becaus eof plot devices intended to let Reed (the hero) win. Besides that doesnt really matter to this fight.

"Zoom said:

"Step on him.

Lets be honest.  Doom gets beaten by the Fantastic Four.  The only member of the Fantastic Four that could even scratch Apocalypse is Sue."

If we're to play that way, Apocalypse has got his butt kicked by the X-men numerous times.

How about this.. let's be honest. How many times has Apocalypse conquered Earth in the 616 continuum? And Dr. Doom? Who does Thanos consider a threat? Doom or Apocalypse? (hint: http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/...ct02TheEnd1.jpg) Who has never been beaten by Magneto and who has been beaten by Magneto? Who is considered a universal threat?
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En'Sabah'Nur, Tyler, heck any incarnation of Apoc wins this, only 616 villains of Earth I think could really beat Apocalypse with ease are Onslaught and Charnel

Doom wins...we have already explained why.