Dr Doom (no magic) vs Crimson Dynamo

Random encounter
Win by death/KO
No BFR
Doom does not have his magic
Otherwise standard equipment

Who wins and why

Doom. Tony's acknowledged that Victor's suit is superior to his anyways. It is unknown how much his suit is just tech, but his tech has been enough to survive blasts for IG wearing Thanos, space travel that's KO'd Galactus and withstood the Hulk easily. He's got weapons that are easily more powerful and defenses that CD wouldn't be able to bypass before getting put down for the count.

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Tony never acknowledged Doom's suit as superior to his. In fact, when Tony fought him in his black and gold armor (a suit Tony admitted was a step lower than his Bleeding edge armor), he scanned Doom's armor and concluded that he had the advantage over Victor tech wise. Hell, just look at current events with what Doom did with Tony's armor in Infamous Iron Man. Why steal his tech? Anyway, end rant.

Doom stomps Dynamo. If we go off of ABC logic, Extremis Iron Man was toying with Dynamo while doing three other things at once. Even then, he effortlessly stomped him. It was extremely casual. Now, comparing how Doom did against Extremis Iron Man is much different. He briefly stalemated a serious and pissed off Tony until he had to resort to magic.

Yeah, Doom's armor has been superior, or stated as much, and the converse has also been stated at one point IIRC early on in their continuity, pretty much agree.

Without magic, Doom is still dangerous and I think he still has too much tech wise for Dynamo to deal with. Doom's personal force fields alone are formidable in an initial altercation and his own armor should hold up for a bit under duress from CD. Doom has had so many gadgets over the years, I just think his versatility even without magic is too much for CD. I even seem to recall some minor matter manipulation using his tech alone.

@void-x: I don't think you understood my comment at all.

@noone1996: can tony armor stop time, analyzed,adapt and steal pre retcon beyonder armor?

Can tony stark armor time travel.can his armor teleported to dimension,and far away?does tony stark armor have molecule expander?and not to mention tony stark can't even hack into dr doom armor.

And I'm not even going into dr doom technologies(outside his armor) his techs is far more advance than any toys tony created

@deallsumrock: the majority of what you just said was with prep time. this is a random encounter

@captaincoolade: actually is not.is part of his armor

@deallsumrock: so doom can just stop time when ever he wants on the fly, can he still the beyonders power just like that, is that what your saying?

@captaincoolade: yes.if you want proof I can post it

@deallsumrock: ditto on what he said. Until shown, gotta back dynamo based on feats I'm aware of

Doom

Doom.

Doom sends doombots

Victor wins.

@captaincoolade: Doom can't do any of that in a random encounter. Don't listen to his semi-illiterate posts. He's going to post some out of context scan he found from a respect thread. Even with prep (which is what Doom needs to accomplish any of that) there's still context. Like the fact that Doom needed to steal Galactus' powers and tech just to steal the Beyonders'. Hell, he didn't even use his own technology to steal Galactus' powers.

@noone1996: thank you.

I always viewed Crimson Dynamo as a discount Ironman.

Doom wins.

@noone1996: lmao you know he can and I already prove since everyone here knows you downplay doom and highball iron man I might just post it again.

Doom stop time with his armor https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11128/111287974/5222056-4193067456-DoomD.jpg

Doom adapt beyonder power and steal beyonder power https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/66295/1220283-secret_wars_dr.doom.jpg(yes doom did use Galactus drainng tech but he modified it and later he created his own in his armor)

After doom created his own power stealer(part of his suit). dr doom able to adapt franklin Richard power and steal it https://m.imgur.com/SbK9z1G?r) and many more.whicj prove is universal(no omnipotent include)

Here tony stark failed to hack into doom armor https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11112/111122629/4328872-6598520454-30176.jpg

Dr doom can teleport to dimension with his suit

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11128/111287974/5222074-3381756381-DoomD.jpg

@solo788: I post it .you can go read it

I think you're telling me Doom beats Crimson Dynamo. I was essentially agreeing. And I agree with your comment about the superiority of Tony's armor to Victor's.

@void-x: Okay my mistake. We are on the same page. I was confused when you said, "Doom's armor has bee superior or stated as much" and were talking about Doom vs Iron Man.

That awkward moment when you can't discern between prep gear and standard gear xD

@noone1996: lmao.i prove sin not prep time and you still said it is.if is then prove it

Not at all. I didn't phrase my response very well.

Dr Doom wins

Doom stomps.