Dr. Doom and Batman vs Marvel and DC universe

Since Dr. Doom is the god of prep in Marvel who can accomplish anything with and Batman is the god of prep in DC who can accomplish anything with can their combined might be enough for :
 
A} Everyone in Marvel and DC excluding cosmic level being
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B} Everyone one in Marvel and DC excluding those above galactus and no one above ion
 
in both instances they get 1 year of prep

Since Dr. Doom is the god of prep in Marvel who can accomplish anything with and Batman is the god of prep in DC who can accomplish anything with can their combined might be enough for :  A} Everyone in Marvel and DC excluding cosmic level being and B} Everyone one in Marvel and DC excluding those above galactus

this is the ultimate stomp. even if they had a decade of prep, there's no way they can take out beings like the spectre, iceman, swamp thing, silver surfer, captain atom, quasar, monarch, thor, wonderwoman, or dr. strange at the same time. hell, the green lantern corps, red lantern corps, agent orange, ALL OF THEM would absolutely stomp them, and they're only a small part of the dc universe. and anything below galactus for the marvel side? that leaves a TON of options for them to come together and destroy them. prep is good, but highly overrated. batman, with prep, could disband a mafia family or stop a prison outbreak, and dr. doom could challenge the avengers with prep, but there's no way they're taking down trillions of beings

Ok how about no one above ion for dc

Doctor Doom and Batman can't beat iceman?

Why is Batman here, he never shown Doom levels of prep.

well i mean, this is basically two prep masters versus 2 entire universes filled with aliens and superbeings and robots and stuff like that. it's basically 2 against 200 trillion(basing this number off of absolutely nothing). they would get taken down by the green lantern corps, they need to build an army first, and they'd need soooo much time to do that. they'd need to gather resources, set up a factory, design their robot army... no just no lol, no way they're gonna be able to come up with a plan to take on 2 universes, even if we are talking about non cosmics and non gods. the u.s. army would give the two of them hell. and batman still has morals... there's a zero percent chance that they'd take over earth, let alone billions of galaxies. and ion is really powerful lol. saying everyone below him is just about everyone in the universe besides other entities, gods, some demons, the presence, and some magic weilders lol
 
@katanalauncher said:

Why is Batman here, he never shown Doom levels of prep.

1 year of prep? Batman can reinstate the Brother Eye project in less than that amount of time, which allows the duo to beat a large chunk of DC superheroes/villains.  Spectre can be beaten a number of ways - messing w/ his human host, easily distracted by other stuff, etc. (plus he was just pwned by Eclipso in the most recent JLA...like super pwned...).  Doom I'm sure w/ 1 year of undisturbed prep could also beat most of the Marvel universe.  The problem is just that there are too many BIG hitters like Galactus, Silver Surfer, Spectre (despite my arguments as to why it's POSSIBLE, it still isn't PROBABLE that either could beat him), Fate, etc. that are just too strong - a solid team w/ 1 year of prep, but still not enough.

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Idk Batman does have some good prep feats and shows unparalleled tenacity and bravery but I don't thin he gets the credit he deserves. If they are working together they could win, single Doom could/would win, Bats would need a plot device whereas Doom would just create his. I just think Batman vs Everyone is out of character so I really can't gauge his power in a prep battle vs good guys (who often get the win just for being the good guy)

Doctor Doom and Batman can't beat iceman?

Doom and Batman could OWN. 1 YEAR OF PREP!!!! Dr. Doom could build destroyer armors, possess Iron Man's suits, Build an army, and amass tons of power to destroy EVERYONE. He could try to get the Infinity Gauntlet in a year...And Batman..well, lets just put it this way: The most dangerous man alive given one year to prepare-DANG. Plus, Doom could steal the power cosmic, and Batman has already set up contingencies, giving him time to plan for the Marvel Universe.

I think they could pull it off.

The second the 'prep' is over they get stomped in an Attosecond by Wally West.

Would be easier if Doom had a partner like Reed, or Hank, or Banner, or Black Panther, or Tony.. but with Batman, i guess they could pull it off. As long as they aren't assaulting everyone at once.

@citizensentry: He would run into a shield so hard he would die.

@kgb725: Oh yeah sorry I completely forgot that Wally West had the ability to phase silly me..........

In a year there's still too many variables for these two, they get severely obliterated.

Unless I read OP wrong, OP says that there are no cosmics involved and that nobody above Galactus or Ion can be used. I'd say that given this all it would take is Doom obtaining the Infinity Gauntlet and it's more or less GG for the duo at that point.

@citizensentry: I forgot how many cosmic objects Doom owns could you remind me?

Regardless, they're still getting stomped by Zoom. Prof. or otherwise. Assuming Batman from the future doesn't time-travel, go back in time, and kill them before that happens anyway.

That would imply that the battle would begin before it is intended to start which nullifies the whole point of prep time. Or are you saying that as soon as the battle begins they go back in time and kill Doom and Batman?

@kgb725: Could you remind what Wally West's top speed is, because I know he's gone over 13 trillion times FTL. So what's stopping Wally from going back in time and stopping Doom & Batman from ever being born?

Also can you remind me how many cosmic objects Reed Richards & Maestro own?

The prep would be moot anyway. At the conclusion of a year, they'd still be statues by Zooms perception. He can literally walk to wherever they are at any point, and snap their necks, vibrate their brains out of their skulls, or any way he chose to kill them because there's pretty much no counter to what Zoom brings to the table, without at the very least being connected to the Speed Force, and I don't see Doom or Bats being able to make that happen, as it seems more, as of the New 52, The Speed Force chooses whom it endows with ability and the scope and power of that ability is completely random, as when Barry's friends came from the Speed Force with different powers that Barry doesn't have and likewise, Zoom's crew seem to have Speed Force based abilities that Barry doesn't.

Outside of that, at the beginning of the battle, a surviving Damian Wayne or anyone smart enough really, could create a device, send an agent back in time to kill Doom and Bruce at the beginning of the battle with the knowledge gained from any losses up until that point. For example, Terry Sloan could send Oliver Queen back, or Mister Terrific could send Deathstroke.

You're saying all of this happens when the battle begins while at the same time Doom has the Infinity Gauntlet?

@citizensentry: It's not like Doom couldn't do the same he does have his own way of time traveling. Are you suggesting that Doom can't beat the Mastro and Richards ? He's already done that and has arguably more cosmic objects than them

@mysticmedivh: @scouterv: I was thinking about people like Zoom, Aquaman, Wonder Woman, the Hulks, Black Bolt, the mutant powerhouses, etc.

But what would they do to Infinity Gauntlet Doom?

@acrokat: Could Zoom not take the gauntlet from Doom? Granted, I don't read much Marvel, so maybe I'm underestimating Doom here. I do know of the Gauntlet for the most part though.

@kgb725:

1: By the time Doom prepares his time machine he would have ceased to exist.

2: Doom may have more cosmic objects, Reed only needs one. A.K.A The Ultimate Nullifier.

@mysticmedivh: I think the mutant Leech can make it not work. The fast people can just take it from him can't they? But like I said there's too many things to think about in moments like these, but the odds are not on Bat/Doom's sides. Too many people with too many powers and uses.

@citizensentry: Infinity Gauntlet >>> ultimate nullifier

Doom will be prepped and ready for that which is why he wouldn't let any flash do that

I don't believe so.

With the Infinity Gauntlet Thanos became omniscient and omnipresent.

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Doom would be everywhere and nowhere at the same time, and know of all things that have happened, are happening, or will happen.

In Thanos Annual #1, Thanos from the past is visited by another Thanos, a mere avatar of the actual Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet, from the future. Thanos told the other counterpart he is well aware he is a god now and that he knows exactly what series of events are going to happen and exactly how he would willingly lose the Infinity Gauntlet before that even took place. In fact, Thanos was evidently already aware of the precise timing and details of the events far into the future the moment he put on the Infinity Gauntlet.

Given the Time and Space Gems, "speed" wouldn't even apply to him, but let's just say it does. Doom would be aware of anything they planned to hatch. They wouldn't be able to take the Gauntlet unless Doom willingly allowed it to come off (which is how Thanos lost the Gauntlet in the first place, he felt unworthy of the power and willingly gave it up), and even then in the instance below we see Thanos letting Mephisto take the Gauntlet off, in which Thanos shows that he can control the Gauntlet without it physically being on his hand.

doom solos

@mysticmedivh: Even still, Speed isn't Zooms factor, but Time and Space are likely the gems in play here. With that said, Thanos created the IG correct? To hold the Gems. Could anyone holding the gauntlet replicate his feets of control with it? Also, if Doom would be destined to lose the gauntlet, hypothetically speaking, would knowing that serve him any purpose?

@kgb725: Scans of Doom prepping for someone who can run faster than 13 trillion times FTL?

Scans of Doom acquiring the Infinity Gauntlet with 1 year prep?

Throw in the cosmic beings and it's still Batman and Doctor Doom. Between them they would destroy everything with Doctor Doom's resources at their command. There's a reason that story would always end with Batman telling Doctor Doom he'd double-crossed him from the beginning.

No, Thanos didn't create the IG. Before the Infinity Gems existed there was a godly being known as Nemesis. Nemesis committed suicide which resulted in her being split into the six Infinity Gems.

Contrary to popular belief, there is no evidence to suggest you have to be somehow worthy or competent to wield the Infinity Gauntlet.

Meet Nebula, a mentally handicapped zombie. Both physically and mentally incompetent.

After Nebula took the Infinity Gauntlet from Thanos (because Thanos willingly gave it up) she went from what I just described above to what she is now capable of as seen in the scans below.

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I'm not sure it's destiny so as much as Thanos personally not feeling worthy of wielding such power as explained here.

Hunter Zolomon and Wally West tag team.