They're almost the same thing. Who wins?
Dr. Destiny vs. Freddy Krueger vs. Nightmare
"Do the others have any chance of winning?I dont think so. Freddy's enhanced magical powers in the real world via the Necronimicon makes him the sure winner here
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Doctor Destiny actually had Lobo in deep distress and scared in the Nightmare special. Overall id give it to freddy because hes more relentless but Doctor Destiny is definately the most effective in terms of emotional distress. He has left Batman, Zatanna and other Justice Leaguers extremely depressed as a result of his dreams not to mention he managed to bring RED TORNADO!! (An Android) into the dream realm.
Nightmare slightly below Eternity
Eternity >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> times 1 trillion >>>>>>>> Freddy Krugar
@IZZR said:
@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:Since when????????????????Nightmare slightly below Eternity
Eternity >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> times 1 trillion >>>>>>>> Freddy Krugar
No body here remembers the two arcs where Nightmare kidnaps Eternity in a dream?????
No but thats failed logic, Dr. Doom has stolen Galactus's powers but he is an insect compared to Galactus.@IZZR said:
@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:Since when????????????????Nightmare slightly below Eternity
Eternity >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> times 1 trillion >>>>>>>> Freddy Krugar
No body here remembers the two arcs where Nightmare kidnaps Eternity in a dream?????
@IZZR said:
@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:No but thats failed logic, Dr. Doom has stolen Galactus's powers but he is an insect compared to Galactus.@IZZR said:
@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:Since when????????????????Nightmare slightly below Eternity
Eternity >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> times 1 trillion >>>>>>>> Freddy Krugar
No body here remembers the two arcs where Nightmare kidnaps Eternity in a dream?????
It's not failed logic. Nightmare is powerful... Way beyond the three demon sprites that possess Freddy Krugar.
inside is the1st battle between nightmare and dr. strange
now the 2nd time eternity has been captured by nightmare; strange lost!
now both eternity AND dr. strange are victims of nightmare
now that both dr. strange and eternity are under the mercy of nightmare, dr. strange has no choice but to summon the most powerful being he believes can stop nightmare...
the unstoppable J-J-JUGGERNAUT!
nightmare has no choice now but to fight the juggernaut since the juggernaut is the only thing that stands between him and multiversal conquest.
nightmare is surprised at the shere might of the juggernaut and even with the powers of his and eternity's combined, HE CAN NOT STOP THE JUGGERNAUT!
juggernaut sucks him up using the power of the crimson cosmos, where nightmare is made an example of. this weakened nightmare's control over his containment of the eye of agamotto, eternity and strange.
after strange was free, he uses the power of watoomb to regain his belongings and free eternity once more.
But neither have the level of perception of the dream world like Krueger and Dee do.@IZZR said:
@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:No but thats failed logic, Dr. Doom has stolen Galactus's powers but he is an insect compared to Galactus.@IZZR said:
@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:Since when????????????????Nightmare slightly below Eternity
Eternity >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> times 1 trillion >>>>>>>> Freddy Krugar
No body here remembers the two arcs where Nightmare kidnaps Eternity in a dream?????
It's not failed logic. Nightmare is powerful... Way beyond the three demon sprites that possess Freddy Krugar.
inside is the1st battle between nightmare and dr. strange
now the 2nd time eternity has been captured by nightmare; strange lost!
now both eternity AND dr. strange are victims of nightmare
now that both dr. strange and eternity are under the mercy of nightmare, dr. strange has no choice but to summon the most powerful being he believes can stop nightmare...
the unstoppable J-J-JUGGERNAUT!
nightmare has no choice now but to fight the juggernaut since the juggernaut is the only thing that stands between him and multiversal conquest.
nightmare is surprised at the shere might of the juggernaut and even with the powers of his and eternity's combined, HE CAN NOT STOP THE JUGGERNAUT!
juggernaut sucks him up using the power of the crimson cosmos, where nightmare is made an example of. this weakened nightmare's control over his containment of the eye of agamotto, eternity and strange.
after strange was free, he uses the power of watoomb to regain his belongings and free eternity once more.
@IZZR said:
But neither have the level of perception of the dream world like Krueger and Dee do.
Yes, he (Nightmare) does. He controls all dreams and nightmares in the Marvel Universe. Any sentient being that dreams such as Eternity is subjects of Nightmare. This was even displayed during the Chaos War, when Chaos King absorbed Nightmare, giving him the power over perception. If it wasn't for Nightmare's powers, Mikaboshi wouldn't have the ability to find Eternity. Nightmare was actually one of the big players of the event of the Chaos War.
freddy stomps both and wins... Freddys king of kings in Dream World... No one will ever be greater than him in the dream world.
No you misunderstood... i meant Strange and Eternity dont have the level of perception. Dr. Destiny wields the ruby of dreams which belongs to DC's equivalent to Nightmare (Morpheus) so he has the same level of power, but i feel that with him he leaves his victims with a completely shattered mental state as his realities are very sinister, i havent seen too much of nightmare but i did see him get killed real quick by Mikaboshi not that its a bad showing.@IZZR said:
But neither have the level of perception of the dream world like Krueger and Dee do.Yes, he (Nightmare) does. He controls all dreams and nightmares in the Marvel Universe. Any sentient being that dreams such as Eternity is subjects of Nightmare. This was even displayed during the Chaos War, when Chaos King absorbed Nightmare, giving him the power over perception. If it wasn't for Nightmare's powers, Mikaboshi wouldn't have the ability to find Eternity. Nightmare was actually one of the big players of the event of the Chaos War.
@IZZR said:
@Moonchilde said:Torturing JLA>>>>Torturing The Avengers>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Torturing high school kidsNightmare stomps.
While I'm sure there's a few issues out there that exist, I can't recall Nightmare going against the Avengers. He's really more a Dr. Strange villain, and we're talking Classic deus ex machina Strange, not current. Torturing classic Strange is much more impressive then torturing Lobo. I agree that Freddy is dead last though, he often gets beat by high school kids that have no idea what they're doing.
Depends on who you see as a tougher character, we all know Classic Strange would wipe the floor with Lobo but power isnt always the determining factor in a fight, its willpower, and like Strange, i dont think there is much that Lobo hasn't seen in the universe so to have him shook up is a big feat. In terms of power Nightmare definately takes it hands down.@IZZR said:
@Moonchilde said:Torturing JLA>>>>Torturing The Avengers>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Torturing high school kidsNightmare stomps.
While I'm sure there's a few issues out there that exist, I can't recall Nightmare going against the Avengers. He's really more a Dr. Strange villain, and we're talking Classic deus ex machina Strange, not current. Torturing classic Strange is much more impressive then torturing Lobo. I agree that Freddy is dead last though, he often gets beat by high school kids that have no idea what they're doing.
freedy is overrated the dream warriors have beaten him and there just regular kids. Dr destiny hasn't really mindrapped any that nightmare couldn't i say nightmare wins since hes tortured more powerful creatures than either of these 2 combined
@mylittlefascist: You'll find all sort of absurd answers in older threads, I guess people had more variated opinions back then.
I mean, users still do today, but the more extreme ones usually come from trolls.
@mylittlefascist: You'll find all sort of absurd answers in older threads, I guess people had more variated opinions back then.
I mean, users still do today, but the more extreme ones usually come from trolls.
When Neongamewave made this thread:
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/freddy-krueger-debunked-1771380/
I thought he was just being salty...
@mylittlefascist: Maybe both, who knows? Lol.
It has some reasonable arguments either way.
@mylittlefascist: Maybe both, who knows? Lol.
It has some reasonable arguments either way.
Yea, his arguments were reasonable, I just didn't think they needed to be made. xD
@mylittlefascist: I guess that's not the case now, right? Heh.
@mylittlefascist: I guess that's not the case now, right? Heh.
Yea, I can see why he made the thread.
Freddy curbstomps he has the necronomicon that makes him a multiversal reality warper in the real world.
@manmadeofhunter: He's a troll. Ignore him lol.
That being said, BIG spite. Destiny beats all of these dudes.
@professorrespect: Yeah but he just keeps making alt accounts. I count at least 12 alt accounts
@rac95: Because Freddy is "supposedly" multiversal in his dream realm and can beat Lucifer Morningstar, Michael, and Darkseid at the same time
@smokernaruto: Nightmare can't beat a guy that contended with Dream of the Endless, sorry.
That and Destiny has a bunch of other stuff that frankly makes him beyond Nightmare's reach (lack of fear, the effects of the Materioptikon messing up his powers, etc)
@rac95: Because Freddy is "supposedly" multiversal in his dream realm and can beat Lucifer Morningstar, Michael, and Darkseid at the same time
Yeah, the good old "Multiversal, omnipotent Freddy in the dream world". The Freddy who gets his as kicked by teens in his own realm were he is "omnipotent". Guess those teens must be omnipotent+ then....
Seriously sometimes he is more wanked than Kaguya and Yhwach together
@soratoumiga: Destiny and Dream fought for a good bit tho
@rac95: Because Freddy is "supposedly" multiversal in his dream realm and can beat Lucifer Morningstar, Michael, and Darkseid at the same time
Yeah, the good old "Multiversal, omnipotent Freddy in the dream world". The Freddy who gets his as kicked by teens in his own realm were he is "omnipotent". Guess those teens must be omnipotent+ then....
Technically speaking, none of those dreams are actually "his realm". The dreams belong to the people he's invading. Until he actually beats an experienced and skilled lucid dreamer, particularly one with a sufficiently aggressive personality (because the level of emotion behind the attack seems to effect how much pain Freddy actually feels), I have no reason to believe that a normal human couldn't potentially take back control and stomp Freddy.
@rac95: Especially by these new trolls who are just alts, posting weird things against Marvel/DC.
"He never will be considered multiversal". He isn't even town level yet wow. Just wow.
Just LTG.
Low Tier Garbage.
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