Dormammu vs Alien X

The most powerful Faltine and ruler of the Dark Dimension versus the enenigmatic reality warping Celestialsapien known as Alien X.

Ok, before you start chewing me out about how much of a mismatch this is, hear me out. Me and my friend were arguing about who'd win in a fight before the aforementioned characters. Admitedly being something of a Dormammu fanboy (as one can tell from my backround picture), I said Dormammu would win; but not only does my friend think Alien X would win, he's hardpressed that Alien X is the most powerful fictional character ever created. The only character that he'll acknowledge as being more powerful than him/it is TOAA; yes, he even thinks Alien X could beat Pre-Recton Beyonder. Now i'm well aware that the general public describes Alien X's powers as "Being able to make it's thoughts reality,"

but i'm honestly convinced he's just an very powerful reality warper. If you wish to prove me wrong, please do so (preferibly kindly).

Anyways, enough explanation, on with the battle.

The "personallities" of Alien X are removed for this fight (meaning he's 100% free to use his powers).

Random encounter.

Bloodlusted.

Winner by "death".

No BFR.

Scenario 1: Takes place in an empty galaxy

Scenario: Takes place in the Dark Dimension

So does the badass flame head win like I believe he does? Or is Alien X really as strong as my friend thinks he is? ............ I seriously hope it's the former.

Does Alien X have any legitimate feats? Or is it all hyperbole like characters such as Cyttorak?

This won't end well...

@Illuminatus said:

Does Alien X have any legitimate feats? Or is it all hyperbole like characters such as Cyttorak?

All hyperbole.   I have an extremely hard time siding with a feat-less character,specialy when he is up against a power-house such as Dormammu.

I mean, the idea of "characters in fiction" goes back tens of thousands of years. There is no conceivable way that some featless alien that was created at some point in the last decade is more powerful than the Judeo-Christian god, characters in Marvel and DC, gods and various beings in an incalculable number of mythologies, etc.

@Illuminatus said:

@Matezoide2 said:

@Illuminatus said:

Does Alien X have any legitimate feats? Or is it all hyperbole like characters such as Cyttorak?

All hyperbole.   I have an extremely hard time siding with a feat-less character,specialy when he is up against a power-house such as Dormammu.

So he's completely featless? Dormammu stomps.

I wouldnt say completely,he did stop a flood and the beings inside his head acknowledged they could have stopped Dinossaur's extinction (then again,thats far from impressive)

I'm very aware that my friend's image of Alien X is distorted as holy hell and what he believes Alien X is capable of ( I.E. Removing a solar system by simplying thinking) is pure overhype and hyperbole, and i'll be more than happy to tell him that, but that's beside the point. What i'd like to know is whether or not Dormammu stomps this featless ..... thing, or not.

Dormammu, since he actually has feats.

I believe Dormammu might win. Haven't seen enough of Alien X to decide.

Well, according to Paradox , if Aggregor had absorbed a baby Alien X , he would have become omnipotent .

Since Dormammu has actual feats to back him up here , I'll give the vote to him , but its not going to be some spite stomp in his favor as some posters here have made it out to be .

Him having feats should not give him the win anyway, that is called bad and lazy debating. By this crazy you must have feats and scans logic Dormammu can beat TOAA, as TOAA has no feats only, what was it called? ah yes hyperbole. I don't know when this new trend started here but it's idiotic. Read the rules feats and scans are used to support a debate, they are not used to exclude others from taking place in a fight. Is Alien X all powerful? Not at all compared to many a Marvel character, but in their universe they are even as infants supposedly more powerful than a entire race of reality warpers (the Anodites), even without feats that says something because we know what Anodites can do, and they basically are the Ben 10 versions of the Faltine, as far as being mystical energy beings that can absorb power and become stronger. I'm not saying this is a win for Alien X, only that such things can be debated without an ass load of feats. I guess if a character is from a planet of telepaths but hasn't used telepathy on panel, we are to assume s/he can read minds?

@jashro44 said:

@Matezoide2: @Illuminatus: Dwayne Mcduffie did say if aggregor had absorbed a baby alien x he would have been omnipotent. Assuming that alien x will actually utilize his powers instead of arguing he should win.

Note if the link doesn't work I do apologize in advance.

http://www.dwaynemcduffie.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2104&p=101802&hilit=omnipotent&sid=5d95d165ed5b365a60e551920d195eef#p101802

Interesting is that Dwayne himself in one of his forum said Alien X isnt the most powerful alien in Ben 10's arsenal :) .

In one of the episodes Paradox said if Kevin absorbed its powers he would of became "omnipotent" so they must be powerful.

Alien X curbstomps.

There is actually a whole race of Alien X, not sure how he can be truely omnipotent.

He did re-create the big bang so going with Alien X for now.