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#1 Posted by jsav777 (658 posts) - - Show Bio

Mephisto requests Dormammu's aid in getting revenge on Galactus and his herald. Galactus has just fed but the battle takes place in neutral space without any planets. All characters are at full power. Who takes it?

Dormammu & Mephisto

vs Galactus & Silver Surfer

#2 Posted by ChaosBlazer (3930 posts) - - Show Bio

Surfer defeats Mephisto. Galactus defeats Dormammu.

#3 Posted by nickthedevil (11647 posts) - - Show Bio

Dormammu Curb stomps. Dorms>>>>>>>>> Mephisto = Galactus >>>>>>> Silver Surfer.

#4 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

Dormammu just destroys Eternity, the home of which countless of Galacti live in.

#5 Posted by Spartan101 (2290 posts) - - Show Bio

team evil takes this.

#6 Posted by capall2 (1428 posts) - - Show Bio

iirc Surfer has already defeated Mephisto before and in neutral realm Galactus should be able to defeat Dormmy here...altho in dark realm it could be interesting...

#7 Posted by ShootingNova (15706 posts) - - Show Bio

Dormammu stomps Silver Surfer, and in his realm, Mephisto has stalemated Galactus. Though he would be defeated eventually, Dormammu would have stomped SS by then and the two proceed to own Galactus.

#8 Edited by Sufferthorn (1734 posts) - - Show Bio

@ShootingNova:

I feel like Surfer would take Mephisto, or at least hold him off for QUITE some time, and Dormammu would have an epic battle with Galactus.

Since the location isn't specified, it takes place in an unpopulated city. >_>....the city is obliterated of course, but that isn't the point. This is not Mephisto's realm.

....Only issue i'm seeing here, is that Galactus is a pillar of the universe or something. So wouldn't destroying him = everyone losing? .....but then again, i suppose Dormammu's goal is to destroy everything anyway.

#9 Posted by ShootingNova (15706 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sufferthorn said:

@ShootingNova:

I feel like Surfer would take Mephisto, or at least hold him off for QUITE some time, and Dormammu would have an epic battle with Galactus.

Since the location isn't specified, it takes place in an unpopulated city. >_>....the city is obliterated of course, but that isn't the point. This is not Mephisto's realm.

....Only issue i'm seeing here, is that Galactus is a pillar of the universe or something. So wouldn't destroying him = everyone losing? .....but then again, i suppose Dormammu's goal is to destroy everything anyway.

I dunno. In his realm, Mephisto has stalemated Galactus. This is out-of-realm, but Mephisto is still quite powerful.

The location was specified as empty space with no nearby planets.

Not really. There's all your abstracts (Death, Eternity, Oblivion, Infinity), Living Tribunal, Celestials, the Fulcrum, In-Betweener, Vishanti, Beyonder and TOAA and so on.

#10 Posted by ghost_rider1 (3422 posts) - - Show Bio

Dormammu and mephisto

#11 Edited by mrtrickster (2307 posts) - - Show Bio

surfer doesn't matter here, Big G solos
 
@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning
Eternity is the biggest cosmic jobber there is, that was hardly impressive, also one Galactus per universe

#12 Posted by ShootingNova (15706 posts) - - Show Bio

@mrtrickster said:

surfer doesn't matter here, Big G solos

Seriously? Mephisto in his realm stalemated Galactus, Dormammu is much, much more powerful. Mephisto stomps SS and Dormammu beats Galactus, or, if fast enough, Mephisto and Dormammu together stomp Galactus.

#13 Edited by mrtrickster (2307 posts) - - Show Bio
@ShootingNova said:

@mrtrickster said:

surfer doesn't matter here, Big G solos

Seriously? Mephisto in his realm stalemated Galactus, Dormammu is much, much more powerful. Mephisto stomps SS and Dormammu beats Galactus, or, if fast enough, Mephisto and Dormammu together stomp Galactus.


Actually Galactus threatened to eat Mephisto's realm which caused Mephisto to call a truce and give him his Herald back. That's not stalemating
Dormammu has been kind of a disappointment these days, if it's decades ago sure, but nowadays, Big G ain't gonna have to much trouble
#14 Posted by ChaosBlazer (3930 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickthedevil said:

Dormammu Curb stomps. Dorms>>>>>>>>> Mephisto = Galactus >>>>>>> Silver Surfer.

Didn't Surfer defeat Mephisto before?

#15 Posted by ShootingNova (15706 posts) - - Show Bio

@mrtrickster said:

@ShootingNova said:

@mrtrickster said:

surfer doesn't matter here, Big G solos

Seriously? Mephisto in his realm stalemated Galactus, Dormammu is much, much more powerful. Mephisto stomps SS and Dormammu beats Galactus, or, if fast enough, Mephisto and Dormammu together stomp Galactus.

Actually Galactus threatened to eat Mephisto's realm which caused Mephisto to call a truce and give him his Herald back. That's not stalematingDormammu has been kind of a disappointment these days, if it's decades ago sure, but nowadays, Big G ain't gonna have to much trouble

That's a different one, then. I meant stalemating in a battle, which I haven't seen you mention.

Dormammu is still really powerful, and especially in the Dark Dimension. He beats G.

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

Dormammu just destroys Eternity, the home of which countless of Galacti live in.

This could potentially happen.

#16 Posted by nickthedevil (11647 posts) - - Show Bio

Horrible to see all this.... Dormammu beat Gaia in her home turf. How? He showed the ability to tap directly into his own realm, and amp himself at will. Something No one else has. Mephisto is just a big Jobber.

#17 Posted by mrtrickster (2307 posts) - - Show Bio
@ShootingNova said:

@mrtrickster said:

@ShootingNova said:

@mrtrickster said:

surfer doesn't matter here, Big G solos

Seriously? Mephisto in his realm stalemated Galactus, Dormammu is much, much more powerful. Mephisto stomps SS and Dormammu beats Galactus, or, if fast enough, Mephisto and Dormammu together stomp Galactus.

Actually Galactus threatened to eat Mephisto's realm which caused Mephisto to call a truce and give him his Herald back. That's not stalematingDormammu has been kind of a disappointment these days, if it's decades ago sure, but nowadays, Big G ain't gonna have to much trouble

That's a different one, then. I meant stalemating in a battle, which I haven't seen you mention.

Dormammu is still really powerful, and especially in the Dark Dimension. He beats G.


no the same fight you were mentioning
read the scans again, pretty far from stalemating if you ask me
1. http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/3055/ssjd528cx.jpg
2. http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/7980/ssjd537rq.jpg
3. http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/5105/ssjd545jv.jpg
4. http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/5108/ssjd552bj.jpg
5. http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/3257/ssjd566zs.jpg
6. http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/8522/ssjd573qq.jpg
7. http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/4230/ssjd585gn.jpg
8. http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/7769/ssjd596qq.jpg
9. http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/4460/ssjd602nf.jpg
10. http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/1284/ssjd617ye.jpg

 
as for dormammu, he's too much of a jobber, come back when he doesn't have trouble with dr strange
#18 Posted by ShootingNova (15706 posts) - - Show Bio

@mrtrickster: Still, Mephisto beats SS. How do even know what I was talking about, anyways?

And Dormmamu beat Gaia in her home dimension and even captured her.

@nickthedevil said:

Horrible to see all this.... Dormammu beat Gaia in her home turf. How? He showed the ability to tap directly into his own realm, and amp himself at will. Something No one else has. Mephisto is just a big Jobber.

Exactly.

#19 Posted by mrtrickster (2307 posts) - - Show Bio
@ShootingNova:

How do even know what I was talking about, anyways?

 
lol?
#20 Posted by nickthedevil (11647 posts) - - Show Bio

Hold on, let me go get the moment in which Dormammu murdered Eternity solo.... Or maybe when he chained Zom? Both these feats trump anything Galan has.

#21 Posted by mrtrickster (2307 posts) - - Show Bio
@nickthedevil:

Or maybe when he chained Zom? 

 
he and eternity you mean
#22 Posted by nickthedevil (11647 posts) - - Show Bio

No, Dorms did it solo. Even Zom said so himself. I got the scan bro. Somewhere in my thousand picture gallery... Hold on...

#23 Edited by mrtrickster (2307 posts) - - Show Bio
@nickthedevil said:

No, Dorms did it solo. Even Zom said so himself. I got the scan bro. Somewhere in my thousand picture gallery... Hold on...

oh you mean just cuffed him, yeah dorms did that solo, but that's only after he and eternity took him down
#24 Posted by nickthedevil (11647 posts) - - Show Bio

Yup. Still strong enough to keep him down, which was more than Galan can do.

#26 Edited by mrtrickster (2307 posts) - - Show Bio
@nickthedevil said:

Yup. Still strong enough to keep him down, which was more than Galan can do.

tbh that feat was like decades ago, marvel cosmics wasn't really that well established back then.
dormammu isn't anywhere near this level nowadays
even back in that classic era, dormammu admitted he's equal to odin and zeus which is skyfather level
#27 Posted by TERMINATORXX (3899 posts) - - Show Bio

@ChaosBlazer said:

Surfer defeats Mephisto. Galactus defeats Dormammu.

Nope..........Galactus beats Mephisto, Galactus and Dor

#28 Posted by ShootingNova (15706 posts) - - Show Bio

@TERMINATORXX said:

@ChaosBlazer said:

Surfer defeats Mephisto. Galactus defeats Dormammu.

Nope..........Galactus beats Mephisto, Galactus and Dor

Not.

#29 Posted by TERMINATORXX (3899 posts) - - Show Bio

@ShootingNova:

* sigh * you again??? LOL

You're titled to your opinion buddy.

#30 Posted by ShootingNova (15706 posts) - - Show Bio

@TERMINATORXX: Yes, its me again :D

No, I was asking because your thing sounds funny:

Galactus beats Mephisto, Galactus, and Dormammu.

So Galactus beats Mephisto, Dormammu and himself?

#31 Posted by niBBit (718 posts) - - Show Bio

@ShootingNova: HAHAHA I can see it now... reminds me of a Southpark Episode http://southpark-zone.blogspot.nl/2008/01/s7-lil-crime-stoppers.html skip to 19.50 :)

#32 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

Dormammu at his Best Trump Galan at his Best. Mephisto at his best Trump SS at his best.

So all reality Mephisto and Dormammu should rock this match.

#33 Edited by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

@mrtrickster said:

@ShootingNova said:

@mrtrickster said:

@ShootingNova said:

@mrtrickster said:

surfer doesn't matter here, Big G solos

Seriously? Mephisto in his realm stalemated Galactus, Dormammu is much, much more powerful. Mephisto stomps SS and Dormammu beats Galactus, or, if fast enough, Mephisto and Dormammu together stomp Galactus.

Actually Galactus threatened to eat Mephisto's realm which caused Mephisto to call a truce and give him his Herald back. That's not stalematingDormammu has been kind of a disappointment these days, if it's decades ago sure, but nowadays, Big G ain't gonna have to much trouble

That's a different one, then. I meant stalemating in a battle, which I haven't seen you mention.

Dormammu is still really powerful, and especially in the Dark Dimension. He beats G.

no the same fight you were mentioning
read the scans again, pretty far from stalemating if you ask me
1. http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/3055/ssjd528cx.jpg
2. http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/7980/ssjd537rq.jpg
3. http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/5105/ssjd545jv.jpg
4. http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/5108/ssjd552bj.jpg
5. http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/3257/ssjd566zs.jpg
6. http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/8522/ssjd573qq.jpg
7. http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/4230/ssjd585gn.jpg
8. http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/7769/ssjd596qq.jpg
9. http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/4460/ssjd602nf.jpg
10. http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/1284/ssjd617ye.jpg as for dormammu, he's too much of a jobber, come back when he doesn't have trouble with dr strange

Mephisto over powered Galactus and Galactus had to ponder a strategy to turn the tables so while Mephisto was bragging about his victory, Galactus sensed that Mephisto's realm was flourished with energy that he needed and started to devourer the souls which Mephisto cherished. Mephisto could have continued to fight and stopped Galactus from feeding, but not without sacraficing his precious trophies so he allowed Galactus to take back his Herald because one soul doesn't make up for loosing countless of other ones. Galactus won via PIS.

#34 Edited by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

@mrtrickster said:

@nickthedevil said:

Yup. Still strong enough to keep him down, which was more than Galan can do.

tbh that feat was like decades ago, marvel cosmics wasn't really that well established back then. dormammu isn't anywhere near this level nowadays even back in that classic era, dormammu admitted he's equal to odin and zeus which is skyfather level

Um, Marvel WAS more established and consistent "back then" for 40 years straight... You're saying that they are more consistant now that they are bought up by Disney? I don't think so.... 40 years of consistent history > 6 years of what they write now - which are by the way, reimaged edited versions than what the dedicated writers used to write "back the". Not to mention, DC writers right for Marvel now, so that's pretty inconsistent within itself.

#35 Posted by Man_of_Miracles (1525 posts) - - Show Bio

This is in neutral territory, Dorm and Mephisto are not going to be as powerful.

So neither of them are going to be at their best.

Taking that into account a could definitely see Galactus and SS taking this one in a tough fight.

#36 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

@Man_of_Miracles said:

This is in neutral territory, Dorm and Mephisto are not going to be as powerful.

So neither of them are going to be at their best.

Taking that into account a could definitely see Galactus and SS taking this one in a tough fight.

That's because if Dormammu and Mephisto "did their best", Galactus team wouldn't stand a chance at all. At least now that it is in a neutral realm, Galactus still has a chance of surviving longer. Don't forget that despite Dormammu's personal power be not his all, he still has all the conjuring power he needs to easily destroy Galactus.

#37 Posted by Man_of_Miracles (1525 posts) - - Show Bio

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

@Man_of_Miracles said:

This is in neutral territory, Dorm and Mephisto are not going to be as powerful.

So neither of them are going to be at their best.

Taking that into account a could definitely see Galactus and SS taking this one in a tough fight.

That's because if Dormammu and Mephisto "did their best", Galactus team wouldn't stand a chance at all. At least now that it is in a neutral realm, Galactus still has a chance of surviving longer. Don't forget that despite Dormammu's personal power be not his all, he still has all the conjuring power he needs to easily destroy Galactus.

Did you just say the phrase easily destroy and Galactus in the same sentence?

In a neutral zone there is no way that Dormammu is easily defeating Galactus, or probably defeating him at all.

#38 Posted by ShootingNova (15706 posts) - - Show Bio

@niBBit: LOL.

@Man_of_Miracles said:

This is in neutral territory, Dorm and Mephisto are not going to be as powerful.

So neither of them are going to be at their best.

Taking that into account a could definitely see Galactus and SS taking this one in a tough fight.

It doesn't matter if they aren't in home turf. Dormammu has shown he can tap into his own realm. He has beaten Gaea before.

#39 Posted by Man_of_Miracles (1525 posts) - - Show Bio

@ShootingNova:

Yes by being able to directly tap the power of his realm, there is nothing to say he will be able to do that again.

And isn't Gaea an Earth god? despite being an elder god, her power is from Earth if I am not mistaken, so I wouldn't consider that and overly impressive feat.

#40 Posted by ShootingNova (15706 posts) - - Show Bio

@Man_of_Miracles said:

@ShootingNova:

Yes by being able to directly tap the power of his realm, there is nothing to say he will be able to do that again.

And isn't Gaea an Earth god? despite being an elder god, her power is from Earth if I am not mistaken, so I wouldn't consider that and overly impressive feat.

What? Why? He has done it before, why wouldn't he be able to do so again?

Gaea is still much more powerful than beings like Odin and Zeus, or any skyfather for that matter.

Her power isn't just from Earth, its just that she's the embodiment of all life on Earth.

Defeating an Elder God isn't an impressive feat? Gaea has telekinetically lifted Thor's hammer Mjolnir with a thought and so on. She is very powerful, that's an impressive feat, defeating her.

#41 Posted by Freefa11 (2337 posts) - - Show Bio

Silver Surfer is not a match for Mephisto, even out of his realm. He has "beaten" him once, but I believe that was one of those events that was retconned into Mephisto only letting him think he'd won (something he has done with Thor as well). I've seen at least two battles between them outside of Mephisto's realm. This is one, and from what I recall, the other was similarly one-sided. Incidentally, these scans are from the same graphic novel where Mephisto battled Galactus.

#42 Posted by Man_of_Miracles (1525 posts) - - Show Bio

@ShootingNova:

It isn't something he has done with regularity

How do you figure she is more powerful than Odin?

You say she is powerful, do you have any scans of her power? because there are lots of people who have moved Thor's hammer.

#43 Posted by ShootingNova (15706 posts) - - Show Bio

@Man_of_Miracles said:

@ShootingNova:

It isn't something he has done with regularity

How do you figure she is more powerful than Odin?

You say she is powerful, do you have any scans of her power? because there are lots of people who have moved Thor's hammer.

Because he never had to.

Really? Elder gods were stated to be far more powerful than gods, even in their prime. Gaea's power over mother nature is theoretically limitless, plus, she appears in different forms to other beings, for example, a person with African heritage would view her as an African person, while an Asian person would see her as an Asian person, even if they were both standing there at the same time. She is the embodiment of all life on Earth.

Of course heaps of people have moved Thor's hammer. I meant she telekinetically moved Thor's hammer with a thought. Although Gaea doesn't have many combat feats. When she amped Hercules, he was fighting against abstracts like Amatsu-Mikaboshi.

However, this is getting more off-topic. Defeating an Elder Goddess is impressive enough.

#44 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

@Man_of_Miracles said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

@Man_of_Miracles said:

This is in neutral territory, Dorm and Mephisto are not going to be as powerful.

So neither of them are going to be at their best.

Taking that into account a could definitely see Galactus and SS taking this one in a tough fight.

That's because if Dormammu and Mephisto "did their best", Galactus team wouldn't stand a chance at all. At least now that it is in a neutral realm, Galactus still has a chance of surviving longer. Don't forget that despite Dormammu's personal power be not his all, he still has all the conjuring power he needs to easily destroy Galactus.

Did you just say the phrase easily destroy and Galactus in the same sentence?

In a neutral zone there is no way that Dormammu is easily defeating Galactus, or probably defeating him at all.

Ok, let's see what Dr. Strange has done to Galactus.

Let's look at what Ancient One done to Eternity

Let's look at what Dormammu has done with Ancient One

Let's look what Dormammu has done to Eternity

Let's see what Dormammu does to one of Dr. Strange's clones.

#45 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

@Man_of_Miracles said:

@ShootingNova:

It isn't something he has done with regularity

How do you figure she is more powerful than Odin?

You say she is powerful, do you have any scans of her power? because there are lots of people who have moved Thor's hammer.

If it wasn't for Gaea, there would be no Thor, Odin, Zeus, Mikaboshi, etc.... She pretty much created all the Pantheon godlings and also created Demogorge. She is far more powerful than Odin. If it wasn't for Gaea, Mikaboshi would have already destroyed 100% of the multiverse.

#46 Posted by BigCimmerian (7863 posts) - - Show Bio

Dormammu beats all three of them.

#47 Posted by fondofpacman (567 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1...by far.

#49 Posted by Cregan_Stark (1273 posts) - - Show Bio

This is a joke, none of them are any match for Big G, in a neutral field he solos thus without much trouble. As stated time and again on panel and by other Marvel sources Dormammu = Odin, his fans like to try to build him up higher but this is where he us. Not to mention Surfer has already beaten Mephisto.

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#50 Posted by XiiX (7478 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2.