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#1 Edited by XiiX (7438 posts) - - Show Bio

-Fight is in a neutral, hellish domain.

-No preperation.

-Win is by all viable methods.

-Surtur has his Twilight Sword.

#2 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17004 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2 thanks to Surtur, IMO.

#3 Posted by winfred (111 posts) - - Show Bio

team one

#4 Posted by rico_3088 (485 posts) - - Show Bio

Satannish is the weak link, however Dormammu is a power house. I want to say team 1 but i believe team two together might be more powerful. i will go with team 2 for now.

#5 Posted by BigCimmerian (7853 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666 said:

Team 2 thanks to Surtur, IMO.
#6 Posted by TheGoldenOne (38849 posts) - - Show Bio
Team 2.
#7 Posted by nickthedevil (11603 posts) - - Show Bio

Team one. by BFR or reinforcementsfrom the Mindless ones.... damn. Probably rip apart the universe. almost likke the battle between Glacatus and mepphisto.

#8 Posted by MagneticShockwave (1244 posts) - - Show Bio

Satannish was created by Dormammu IIRC. Yet Dr. Strange defeated both Satannish and Mephisto at the same time with some effort. Dormammu could likely solo this entire battle.

#9 Posted by Exodu (29 posts) - - Show Bio

Team one.

#10 Posted by Thor_Fanboy (92 posts) - - Show Bio

team 2

#11 Posted by nickthedevil (11603 posts) - - Show Bio

@Thor_Fanboy: How?

#12 Posted by Thor_Fanboy (92 posts) - - Show Bio

surtur is a galaxy buster

#13 Posted by nickthedevil (11603 posts) - - Show Bio

@Thor_Fanboy: And Dormammu conquers entire dimensions.

#14 Posted by rico_3088 (485 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickthedevil said:

@Thor_Fanboy: And Dormammu conquers entire dimensions.

this is why i want to say team one but surtur and Mephisto together might be able to over power Dormammu. good battle.

#15 Edited by nickthedevil (11603 posts) - - Show Bio

@rico_3088:@rico_3088 said:

@nickthedevil said:

@Thor_Fanboy: And Dormammu conquers entire dimensions.

this is why i want to say team one but surtur and Mephisto together might be able to over power Dormammu. good battle.

It's said, known, and shown, that he's on par with Eternity. He's just horribly plagued with Jobber's.

#16 Edited by nickthedevil (11603 posts) - - Show Bio

Dormammu is ABOVE Mephisto. in another league. Dormammu's gone up against way more impressive people (Odin, Eternity, Zom, Mephiso/Hela/Pluto/Daimon Hellstrom, etc..) His fight against Eternity caused worlds to ignite. He's fought Odin himself in Asgard to a standstill. He's chained Zom. It took the combined power of Mephisto/Pluto/Hela/Daimon Hellstrom to drive him off.

#17 Posted by Thor_Fanboy (92 posts) - - Show Bio

and surtur could do the same except eternity maybe your right but if srtur had twilight swords surtur wins

#18 Posted by nickthedevil (11603 posts) - - Show Bio

@Thor_Fanboy: LOL maybe... who knows, but as for whats in the OP, Dormammu can Solo team 2.

#19 Posted by nickthedevil (11603 posts) - - Show Bio

@Thor_Fanboy: Wait, when Surtur has the twilight sword, isn't he on Par with Odin, in asgard?

#20 Posted by Thor_Fanboy (92 posts) - - Show Bio

surtur would beat odin with twilight sword

#21 Posted by nickthedevil (11603 posts) - - Show Bio

@Thor_Fanboy: Would he be equal to Eternity?

#22 Posted by Thor_Fanboy (92 posts) - - Show Bio

did he kill surtur because if he did team 1 wins

#23 Posted by Owie (3621 posts) - - Show Bio

I think about 50/50. Dormammu is the strongest, Satannish the weakest, as stated above. I'm taking "neutral hellish domain" to mean that they're all at their strongest, although that might be a misinterpretation. If that's not what it means, and they all lose power from being out of their domain, I think Mephisto and Satannish lose the greatest percentage of their natural power out of all of them, which would throw the balance off, and team 2 would lose.

#24 Posted by Outside_85 (8145 posts) - - Show Bio

Mephisto seemed to consider them all roughly equal in power, in their own way (since none of them were in any hurry to take the big seat in hell). Like if Surtur could personally destroy a star, Mephisto could technically do the same, in his own way (like tricking someone else to do it for him).
But since this is more of a hell-lord wrestling match...I'll go with the physicals that's on team 2

#25 Edited by nickthedevil (11603 posts) - - Show Bio

@Outside_85:no way in hell are they the same... Mephisto is overestimating himself, or trying to feel better about himself.

Dormammu's stalemated Odin in Asgard (Dorms was weaker in that instance)

Dormammu's killed Eternity. conquered so many dimensions that he can't even remember them all himself.

It took the combined power of Mephisto/Pluto/Hela/Daimon Hellstrom to drive dormammu off.

#26 Posted by nickthedevil (11603 posts) - - Show Bio

@Owie said:

I think about 50/50. Dormammu is the strongest, Satannish the weakest, as stated above. I'm taking "neutral hellish domain" to mean that they're all at their strongest, although that might be a misinterpretation. If that's not what it means, and they all lose power from being out of their domain, I think Mephisto and Satannish lose the greatest percentage of their natural power out of all of them, which would throw the balance off, and team 2 would lose.

Stannish is at mephisto's level.

#27 Posted by Outside_85 (8145 posts) - - Show Bio
@nickthedevil: Equals in status, and i did mention they have different ways about achieving their goals.
#28 Posted by jaywray (631 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickthedevil said:

Dormammu is ABOVE Mephisto. in another league. Dormammu's gone up against way more impressive people (Odin, Eternity, Zom, Mephiso/Hela/Pluto/Daimon Hellstrom, etc..) His fight against Eternity caused worlds to ignite. He's fought Odin himself in Asgard to a standstill. He's chained Zom. It took the combined power of Mephisto/Pluto/Hela/Daimon Hellstrom to drive him off.

He didn't chain Zom, he helped, I'm actually on your side with this argument Domammu stomps if you ask me, but zom is completely out of his league.

Also when did he fight eternity? (I'm not saying he didn't I just cant think of when)

#29 Edited by nickthedevil (11603 posts) - - Show Bio

@jaywray: i can't think of the exact issue off the top of my head, but i remember they fought, it got to a standstill, then he USed ALL of his energy in one focused burst and it killed Eternity... well actually it was so strong he killed himself too (momentarily. both of them can't truly die)

but if you want to know the exact issue, i can find it for you.

EDIT: and as for the chaining of Zom, i did realize yesterday that it wasn't dormammu,. LOL my bad bro, i gotta edit that out of there.

#30 Posted by jaywray (631 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickthedevil said:

@jaywray: i can't think of the exact issue off the top of my head, but i remember they fought, it got to a standstill, then he USed ALL of his energy in one focused burst and it killed Eternity... well actually it was so strong he killed himself too (momentarily. both of them can't truly die)

but if you want to know the exact issue, i can find it for you.

EDIT: and as for the chaining of Zom, i did realize yesterday that it wasn't dormammu,. LOL my bad bro, i gotta edit that out of there.

If its not too much hassle id like to know the issue, but if its any real effort then its sweet :)

And yeah haha, well, he helped, but its still not too bad of a feat considering Eternity was crapping itself cause'a Zom, I just cant stand how Zom's now just a plot device.... Hulk beating strange is crazy PIS... Hulk beating a Zom powered Strange is just bringing ridiculous to new levels.

#31 Posted by nickthedevil (11603 posts) - - Show Bio

@jaywray: almost all of WWH was PIS.

you're a strange fan like myself eh? well glad to finally see a fellow fan. LOL

Sure, i'll get back to you on the issue

#32 Edited by jaywray (631 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickthedevil: I only read a bit of it, stopped straight after the Zom thing....

And yeah I'm a Strange fan :) Its why I'm wondering about the eternity fight really, surprised I haven't read it, but I suppose its easy to miss a few comics here and there!

And Thanks bro :)

#33 Posted by nickthedevil (11603 posts) - - Show Bio

@jaywray: Originally, the fight began with Dormammu and Umar fighting together, but Umar was like on-shotted, and it was up to dormammu. It was Strange Tales #146, and Dormammu went inside Eternity and started blasting him with spells so powerful all the worlds that made up Eternity started exploding and there was extreme chaos, until one vast explosion consumed Dormammu and he didn't exist anymore.

(we all know they did come back) :P

#34 Posted by Nefarious (18764 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2.

#35 Posted by nickthedevil (11603 posts) - - Show Bio

@Nefarious said:

Team 2.

what insight you brought to the thread :P

did you not read what i said about mephisto needing three other entities to deal with Dormammu, Alone?

#36 Posted by jaywray (631 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickthedevil: I will defiantly be checking that out thank you :)

Strange tales is possibly the most important comic in the marvel universe imo, basically all the big events that weren't cross overs, strange was heavily involved, its sad to see him tossed to the side now, same with dormammu =/

#37 Posted by nickthedevil (11603 posts) - - Show Bio

@jaywray: yea! i think the same way bro :)

#38 Posted by Nefarious (18764 posts) - - Show Bio
@nickthedevil: I took a wild guess.
#39 Posted by MagneticShockwave (1244 posts) - - Show Bio
@nickthedevil said:

@Owie said:

I think about 50/50. Dormammu is the strongest, Satannish the weakest, as stated above. I'm taking "neutral hellish domain" to mean that they're all at their strongest, although that might be a misinterpretation. If that's not what it means, and they all lose power from being out of their domain, I think Mephisto and Satannish lose the greatest percentage of their natural power out of all of them, which would throw the balance off, and team 2 would lose.

Stannish is at mephisto's level.

Yup just about.
#40 Posted by Owie (3621 posts) - - Show Bio

@MagneticShockwave said:

@nickthedevil said:

@Owie said:

I think about 50/50. Dormammu is the strongest, Satannish the weakest, as stated above. I'm taking "neutral hellish domain" to mean that they're all at their strongest, although that might be a misinterpretation. If that's not what it means, and they all lose power from being out of their domain, I think Mephisto and Satannish lose the greatest percentage of their natural power out of all of them, which would throw the balance off, and team 2 would lose.

Stannish is at mephisto's level.

Yup just about.

OK, checked up on him more and I guess I have to agree. So in that case Flame-head and Stomach-Mouth take it.

#41 Posted by GhostRider29 (2673 posts) - - Show Bio

Who's Stannish? I thought he was suppose to be the Devil, but since it don't seem that he is, who is he?

#42 Edited by nickthedevil (11603 posts) - - Show Bio

@GhostRider29 said:

Who's Stannish? I thought he was suppose to be the Devil, but since it don't seem that he is, who is he?

a being created by Dormammu that is on Mephisto's level.

EDIT: Satannish

#43 Posted by Void_Paladin (901 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm very tempted to say Dormammu solos.

#44 Edited by nickthedevil (11603 posts) - - Show Bio

@Void_Paladin said:

I'm very tempted to say Dormammu solos.

That was cleared up in page two :P LOL

#45 Posted by XiiX (7438 posts) - - Show Bio

@Void_Paladin said:

I'm very tempted to say Dormammu solos.

Well in that case; Surtur is now wielding the "Twilight Dagger"(yes, I just made that up) which increases his power by a maximum of 70%.

#46 Posted by nickthedevil (11603 posts) - - Show Bio

@XiiX said:

@Void_Paladin said:

I'm very tempted to say Dormammu solos.

Well in that case; Surtur is now wielding the "Twilight Dagger"(yes, I just made that up) which increases his power by a maximum of 70%.

Hmmmm..... Dormammu still takes this, but it's not a stomp, and he's definetly going to need Surtur to keep Mephisto at bay.

#47 Edited by Killemall (18274 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickthedevil said:

Dormammu is ABOVE Mephisto. in another league. Dormammu's gone up against way more impressive people (Odin, Eternity, Zom, Mephiso/Hela/Pluto/Daimon Hellstrom, etc..) His fight against Eternity caused worlds to ignite. He's fought Odin himself in Asgard to a standstill. He's chained Zom. It took the combined power of Mephisto/Pluto/Hela/Daimon Hellstrom to drive him off.

Dormammu, by his own admission is less powerful than Eternity, he fought and defeated eternity when his powers were merged with Umar.

He hasnt defeated or chained Zom either (could i have the issue in this happened)

The last part - i dont know =)

#48 Posted by nickthedevil (11603 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@nickthedevil said:

Dormammu is ABOVE Mephisto. in another league. Dormammu's gone up against way more impressive people (Odin, Eternity, Zom, Mephiso/Hela/Pluto/Daimon Hellstrom, etc..) His fight against Eternity caused worlds to ignite. He's fought Odin himself in Asgard to a standstill. He's chained Zom. It took the combined power of Mephisto/Pluto/Hela/Daimon Hellstrom to drive him off.

Dormammu, by his own admission is less powerful than Eternity, he fought and defeated eternity when his powers were merged with Umar.

He hasnt defeated or chained Zom either (could i have the issue in this happened)

The last part - i dont know =)

I cleared it up with Jaywray on Page 2 that it wasn't in fact Dormammu who chained Zom, but he Gave his strength to Strange so he could do it.

Dormammu, can be, and when he did this with Umar, Umar's own power was exhausted, and Dormammu had to resort to (temporarily) killing Both Eternity and himself, by entering inside it, and Exploding. :)

#49 Posted by MagneticShockwave (1244 posts) - - Show Bio

Dormammu solos

#50 Posted by Killemall (18274 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickthedevil said:

@Killemall said:

I cleared it up with Jaywray on Page 2 that it wasn't in fact Dormammu who chained Zom, but he Gave his strength to Strange so he could do it.

Dormammu, can be, and when he did this with Umar, Umar's own power was exhausted, and Dormammu had to resort to (temporarily) killing Both Eternity and himself, by entering inside it, and Exploding. :)

  • Oops did not read the whole thread =)
  • So you are saying Dormamu is normally <<<<<<<<<< Eternity?/ then i totally agree. Else i will have to disagree.