VS
-Fight is in a neutral, hellish domain.
-No preperation.
-Win is by all viable methods.
-Surtur has his Twilight Sword.
Team one. by BFR or reinforcementsfrom the Mindless ones.... damn. Probably rip apart the universe. almost likke the battle between Glacatus and mepphisto.
Satannish was created by Dormammu IIRC. Yet Dr. Strange defeated both Satannish and Mephisto at the same time with some effort. Dormammu could likely solo this entire battle.
@rico_3088:@rico_3088 said:
@nickthedevil said:
@Thor_Fanboy: And Dormammu conquers entire dimensions.
this is why i want to say team one but surtur and Mephisto together might be able to over power Dormammu. good battle.
It's said, known, and shown, that he's on par with Eternity. He's just horribly plagued with Jobber's.
Dormammu is ABOVE Mephisto. in another league. Dormammu's gone up against way more impressive people (Odin, Eternity, Zom, Mephiso/Hela/Pluto/Daimon Hellstrom, etc..) His fight against Eternity caused worlds to ignite. He's fought Odin himself in Asgard to a standstill. He's chained Zom. It took the combined power of Mephisto/Pluto/Hela/Daimon Hellstrom to drive him off.
and surtur could do the same except eternity maybe your right but if srtur had twilight swords surtur wins
I think about 50/50. Dormammu is the strongest, Satannish the weakest, as stated above. I'm taking "neutral hellish domain" to mean that they're all at their strongest, although that might be a misinterpretation. If that's not what it means, and they all lose power from being out of their domain, I think Mephisto and Satannish lose the greatest percentage of their natural power out of all of them, which would throw the balance off, and team 2 would lose.
Mephisto seemed to consider them all roughly equal in power, in their own way (since none of them were in any hurry to take the big seat in hell). Like if Surtur could personally destroy a star, Mephisto could technically do the same, in his own way (like tricking someone else to do it for him).
But since this is more of a hell-lord wrestling match...I'll go with the physicals that's on team 2
@Outside_85:no way in hell are they the same... Mephisto is overestimating himself, or trying to feel better about himself.
Dormammu's stalemated Odin in Asgard (Dorms was weaker in that instance)
Dormammu's killed Eternity. conquered so many dimensions that he can't even remember them all himself.
It took the combined power of Mephisto/Pluto/Hela/Daimon Hellstrom to drive dormammu off.
@Owie said:
I think about 50/50. Dormammu is the strongest, Satannish the weakest, as stated above. I'm taking "neutral hellish domain" to mean that they're all at their strongest, although that might be a misinterpretation. If that's not what it means, and they all lose power from being out of their domain, I think Mephisto and Satannish lose the greatest percentage of their natural power out of all of them, which would throw the balance off, and team 2 would lose.
Stannish is at mephisto's level.
@nickthedevil said:
Dormammu is ABOVE Mephisto. in another league. Dormammu's gone up against way more impressive people (Odin, Eternity, Zom, Mephiso/Hela/Pluto/Daimon Hellstrom, etc..) His fight against Eternity caused worlds to ignite. He's fought Odin himself in Asgard to a standstill. He's chained Zom. It took the combined power of Mephisto/Pluto/Hela/Daimon Hellstrom to drive him off.
He didn't chain Zom, he helped, I'm actually on your side with this argument Domammu stomps if you ask me, but zom is completely out of his league.
Also when did he fight eternity? (I'm not saying he didn't I just cant think of when)
@jaywray: i can't think of the exact issue off the top of my head, but i remember they fought, it got to a standstill, then he USed ALL of his energy in one focused burst and it killed Eternity... well actually it was so strong he killed himself too (momentarily. both of them can't truly die)
but if you want to know the exact issue, i can find it for you.
EDIT: and as for the chaining of Zom, i did realize yesterday that it wasn't dormammu,. LOL my bad bro, i gotta edit that out of there.
@nickthedevil said:
@jaywray: i can't think of the exact issue off the top of my head, but i remember they fought, it got to a standstill, then he USed ALL of his energy in one focused burst and it killed Eternity... well actually it was so strong he killed himself too (momentarily. both of them can't truly die)
but if you want to know the exact issue, i can find it for you.
EDIT: and as for the chaining of Zom, i did realize yesterday that it wasn't dormammu,. LOL my bad bro, i gotta edit that out of there.
If its not too much hassle id like to know the issue, but if its any real effort then its sweet :)
And yeah haha, well, he helped, but its still not too bad of a feat considering Eternity was crapping itself cause'a Zom, I just cant stand how Zom's now just a plot device.... Hulk beating strange is crazy PIS... Hulk beating a Zom powered Strange is just bringing ridiculous to new levels.
@jaywray: almost all of WWH was PIS.
you're a strange fan like myself eh? well glad to finally see a fellow fan. LOL
Sure, i'll get back to you on the issue
@jaywray: Originally, the fight began with Dormammu and Umar fighting together, but Umar was like on-shotted, and it was up to dormammu. It was Strange Tales #146, and Dormammu went inside Eternity and started blasting him with spells so powerful all the worlds that made up Eternity started exploding and there was extreme chaos, until one vast explosion consumed Dormammu and he didn't exist anymore.
(we all know they did come back) :P
@Nefarious said:
Team 2.
what insight you brought to the thread :P
did you not read what i said about mephisto needing three other entities to deal with Dormammu, Alone?
@nickthedevil: I will defiantly be checking that out thank you :)
Strange tales is possibly the most important comic in the marvel universe imo, basically all the big events that weren't cross overs, strange was heavily involved, its sad to see him tossed to the side now, same with dormammu =/
Yup just about.@Owie said:
I think about 50/50. Dormammu is the strongest, Satannish the weakest, as stated above. I'm taking "neutral hellish domain" to mean that they're all at their strongest, although that might be a misinterpretation. If that's not what it means, and they all lose power from being out of their domain, I think Mephisto and Satannish lose the greatest percentage of their natural power out of all of them, which would throw the balance off, and team 2 would lose.
Stannish is at mephisto's level.
@MagneticShockwave said:
@nickthedevil said:Yup just about.@Owie said:
I think about 50/50. Dormammu is the strongest, Satannish the weakest, as stated above. I'm taking "neutral hellish domain" to mean that they're all at their strongest, although that might be a misinterpretation. If that's not what it means, and they all lose power from being out of their domain, I think Mephisto and Satannish lose the greatest percentage of their natural power out of all of them, which would throw the balance off, and team 2 would lose.
Stannish is at mephisto's level.
OK, checked up on him more and I guess I have to agree. So in that case Flame-head and Stomach-Mouth take it.
Who's Stannish? I thought he was suppose to be the Devil, but since it don't seem that he is, who is he?
@GhostRider29 said:
Who's Stannish? I thought he was suppose to be the Devil, but since it don't seem that he is, who is he?
a being created by Dormammu that is on Mephisto's level.
EDIT: Satannish
@XiiX said:
@Void_Paladin said:
I'm very tempted to say Dormammu solos.
Well in that case; Surtur is now wielding the "Twilight Dagger"(yes, I just made that up) which increases his power by a maximum of 70%.
Hmmmm..... Dormammu still takes this, but it's not a stomp, and he's definetly going to need Surtur to keep Mephisto at bay.
@nickthedevil said:
Dormammu is ABOVE Mephisto. in another league. Dormammu's gone up against way more impressive people (Odin, Eternity, Zom, Mephiso/Hela/Pluto/Daimon Hellstrom, etc..) His fight against Eternity caused worlds to ignite. He's fought Odin himself in Asgard to a standstill. He's chained Zom. It took the combined power of Mephisto/Pluto/Hela/Daimon Hellstrom to drive him off.
Dormammu, by his own admission is less powerful than Eternity, he fought and defeated eternity when his powers were merged with Umar.
He hasnt defeated or chained Zom either (could i have the issue in this happened)
The last part - i dont know =)
@Killemall said:
@nickthedevil said:
Dormammu is ABOVE Mephisto. in another league. Dormammu's gone up against way more impressive people (Odin, Eternity, Zom, Mephiso/Hela/Pluto/Daimon Hellstrom, etc..) His fight against Eternity caused worlds to ignite. He's fought Odin himself in Asgard to a standstill. He's chained Zom. It took the combined power of Mephisto/Pluto/Hela/Daimon Hellstrom to drive him off.
Dormammu, by his own admission is less powerful than Eternity, he fought and defeated eternity when his powers were merged with Umar.
He hasnt defeated or chained Zom either (could i have the issue in this happened)
The last part - i dont know =)
I cleared it up with Jaywray on Page 2 that it wasn't in fact Dormammu who chained Zom, but he Gave his strength to Strange so he could do it.
Dormammu, can be, and when he did this with Umar, Umar's own power was exhausted, and Dormammu had to resort to (temporarily) killing Both Eternity and himself, by entering inside it, and Exploding. :)
@nickthedevil said:
@Killemall said:
I cleared it up with Jaywray on Page 2 that it wasn't in fact Dormammu who chained Zom, but he Gave his strength to Strange so he could do it.
Dormammu, can be, and when he did this with Umar, Umar's own power was exhausted, and Dormammu had to resort to (temporarily) killing Both Eternity and himself, by entering inside it, and Exploding. :)
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