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#1 Edited by Star_blast (34 posts) - - Show Bio

(DC) Zeus or (Marvel) Zeus you can choose whichever one fit this battle better. Odin (Marvel) has mjolnir and has his full power. Takes place on the moon To the death Darkseid is weak in this battle because he was fighting superman and he is not at his full power.

#2 Posted by XImpossibruX (5168 posts) - - Show Bio

Odin and Zeus from DC (probably lose)

or

Odin and Zeus from Marvel (would definitely win)

#3 Posted by ShootingNova (15469 posts) - - Show Bio

@XImpossibruX said:

Odin and Zeus from DC (probably lose)

DC Gods definitely lose, they are featless.

Odin and Zeus from Marvel (would definitely win)

What? No.

Dormammu has done this to Eternity:

#4 Posted by fondofpacman (567 posts) - - Show Bio

Classic Dormammu obviously kills everyone

#5 Posted by XImpossibruX (5168 posts) - - Show Bio

@ShootingNova: Oh boy, well then nvm Team 1

#6 Posted by ShootingNova (15469 posts) - - Show Bio

@XImpossibruX: LOL.

#7 Posted by XiiX (7413 posts) - - Show Bio

Team1.

#8 Posted by Man_of_Miracles (1524 posts) - - Show Bio

Is it classic Dormammu?

#9 Posted by XiiX (7413 posts) - - Show Bio

@Man_of_Miracles: I believe it's most recent versions unless stated otherwise. So, no.

#10 Posted by Man_of_Miracles (1524 posts) - - Show Bio

@XiiX: How strong is current Dormammu, because Odin (marvel) potentially solos this.

#11 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

@Man_of_Miracles said:

@XiiX: How strong is current Dormammu, because Odin (marvel) potentially solos this.

Current is Classic. There's one one Dormammu in a Omniverse. and billion counter parts of Odin and Zeus and Darksied. in a multiverse. Don't forget that Dormammu once created his own universe and version of Thor and Odin back in 2005. If he was able to do that back in 2005, he can still do it again. Also, keep in mind that the Dark Dimension is bigger than Eternity itself, and Dormammu's entire being is almost the size of Eternity (the Multiverse) so... Yeah.... No body forget that.

#12 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

Also, during the Zombie invasion, Dormammu was pretty much the only thing non-affected by any of the zombies. Galactus was eaten and Dormammu almost ruled and absorbed the zombieverse into the Dark dimension.

#13 Posted by Man_of_Miracles (1524 posts) - - Show Bio

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning: Current is not Classic, Classic is Classic

characters get powered down and powered up all the time.

#14 Posted by TifaLockhart (14012 posts) - - Show Bio

Dormammu solos all 3.

Also, IMO featless doesn't necessarily mean weakness. Would you say Batman beats DC Zeus because he (Batman) has more feats?

#15 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

@Man_of_Miracles said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning: Current is not Classic, Classic is Classic

characters get powered down and powered up all the time.

Ok, so do you consider 2005 classic..... What is "Classic" to you?

#16 Posted by Man_of_Miracles (1524 posts) - - Show Bio

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning: I consider his current to be him right this second.

I mean he could have had all his powers taken away last year.

#17 Posted by TifaLockhart (14012 posts) - - Show Bio

Dormammu gets undersold a lot IMO.

#18 Posted by TDK_1997 (14456 posts) - - Show Bio

Dormammu can win this alone.He doesn't need Darkseid to help him.

#19 Posted by BigCimmerian (7849 posts) - - Show Bio

Darkseid gets stepped on, Odin and Zeus together could take down Dormammu.

#20 Posted by TifaLockhart (14012 posts) - - Show Bio

@BigCimmerian: I adamantly disagree. Dormammu's above Skyfather IMO.

#21 Posted by SpeedForceSpider (902 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1 curbstomps.

#22 Posted by BigCimmerian (7849 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:

@BigCimmerian: I adamantly disagree. Dormammu's above Skyfather IMO.

And so is Batman above Bane, but how would he fare against 2 Banes?

#23 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

616 Dormammu was the one who created Universe 5113, where he created all skyfathers as equally powerful as the real ones.

If Dormammu can do this, that means if Odin and Zeus teams up on him, he'll just create an opposite version of them that is in par to their own power and have them battle those instead of him.

#24 Posted by TifaLockhart (14012 posts) - - Show Bio

@BigCimmerian: Bane is Batman's near equal. Dormammu isn't just slightly more powerful than a Skyfather, he's much too much (again, IMO).

Darkseid is chaff, though. And DC Zeus isn't up to par with Marvel's version.

#25 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

This is the Thor Dormammu created, and he was just about as powerful, if not more powerful than the real Thor.

#26 Posted by BigCimmerian (7849 posts) - - Show Bio

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

616 Dormammu was the one who created Universe 5113, where he created all skyfathers as equally powerful as the real ones.

If Dormammu can do this, that means if Odin and Zeus teams up on him, he'll just create an opposite version of them that is in par to their own power and have them battle those instead of him.

Can you prove that they are powerful as the real ones? 1610 gods are not as powerful as those of 616 universe.

#27 Posted by BigCimmerian (7849 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:

@BigCimmerian: Bane is Batman's near equal. Dormammu isn't just slightly more powerful than a Skyfather, he's much too much (again, IMO).

Darkseid is chaff, though. And DC Zeus isn't up to par with Marvel's version.

Ok, I just realised this is DC Zeus, I don't know anything about him, but I still think that Dormammu and Odin are near equals with Dormammu being slightly more powerful.

#28 Posted by TifaLockhart (14012 posts) - - Show Bio

@BigCimmerian: Fair enough. You are entitled to your opinion and I cannot prove my stance.

Agree to disagree? As an aside though, how do you personally feel about DC's Zeus and his relation powerwise to his son Ares and to his rival Darkseid?

#29 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

@BigCimmerian said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

616 Dormammu was the one who created Universe 5113, where he created all skyfathers as equally powerful as the real ones.

If Dormammu can do this, that means if Odin and Zeus teams up on him, he'll just create an opposite version of them that is in par to their own power and have them battle those instead of him.

Can you prove that they are powerful as the real ones? 1610 gods are not as powerful as those of 616 universe.

This was when Dormammu took over Eternity 616 and created it into Universe 5113. It was a comic arc back in 2005. So basically, during 616 alterzation, Odin and all Skyfathers were deleted and recreated with the same power set.

#30 Posted by TifaLockhart (14012 posts) - - Show Bio

I think a more compelling argument is that in that same miniseries, Dormammu with just help from his big sister usurped Eternity.

And this wasn't the first time he clashed with Eternity.

#31 Posted by Spartan101 (2281 posts) - - Show Bio

@TDK_1997 said:

Dormammu can win this alone.He doesn't need Darkseid to help him.

#32 Posted by TifaLockhart (14012 posts) - - Show Bio

It just occurred to me: DC's Zeus might not even be Darkseid's better. He's on the Quintessence with Darkseid's near equal (but supposed better) Highfather.

#33 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

Here's a scan of Dormammu literally standing near the Multiverse.

<----Multiverse (Dormammu standing next to the multiverse)

He's huge in comparison to any skyfather. No Skyfather can grow as big as the entire multiverse. Dormammu only uses an astral form to fit inside it. So the 6 foot to 10 foot Dormammu people see Strange fight all the time, is just a image of Dormammu....Not the real Dormammu.

Multiverse is Eternity. Replace all the Blackhearts with Galactuses
#34 Posted by TERMINATORXX (3899 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2 easily stomps.

#35 Posted by MKMarvelDCfan4life (256 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel Odin and Zeus wins here... but DC Zeus and Marvel Odin against Dormammu and Darkseid, Dormammu and Darkseid wins.

#36 Posted by ShootingNova (15469 posts) - - Show Bio

This is still out? Team 1 crush.

@TERMINATORXX said:

Team 2 easily stomps.

No.

@MKMarvelDCfan4life said:

Marvel Odin and Zeus wins here... but DC Zeus and Marvel Odin against Dormammu and Darkseid, Dormammu and Darkseid wins.

What......? Dormammu can fight against Eternity and the likes. Odin and Zeus can't. Classic Strange was up against Dormammu.

#37 Posted by TERMINATORXX (3899 posts) - - Show Bio

@ShootingNova said:

This is still out? Team 1 crush.

@TERMINATORXX said:

Team 2 easily stomps.

Yes

#38 Posted by Killemall (18246 posts) - - Show Bio

@ShootingNova said:

@XImpossibruX said:

Odin and Zeus from DC (probably lose)

DC Gods definitely lose, they are featless.

Odin and Zeus from Marvel (would definitely win)

What? No.

Dormammu has done this to Eternity:

I think people do mention that often, this is from Strange Tale 42 i believe, and eternity was never said to have died, but Dormammu was killed in doing this, also given the fact that neither the marvel universe was destroyed or was it ever required to be re-created sounds effy. So its a suicide from Dormammu, not his best feat.

That being said , seeing how he stomped Memphisto in hell and what he can do after a boost from Umar to eternity, he should solo even if Darkseid was in the other team.

#39 Posted by Nessy (569 posts) - - Show Bio

If Dormammu consistently did the feats mentioned in this thread, he would never be defeated by comparatively weak beings...which he always does.

#40 Posted by ShootingNova (15469 posts) - - Show Bio

@TERMINATORXX: Umm.... no.

@Killemall: I didn't say Eternity died. But he was damaged. Neither Odin nor Zeus have any feats even remotely on that scale. They were begging for Eternity and Infinity's help.

Dormammu has stomped Mephisto in his own realm, yes, he soloes.

#41 Posted by Killemall (18246 posts) - - Show Bio

@ShootingNova said:

@TERMINATORXX: Umm.... no.

@Killemall: I didn't say Eternity died. But he was damaged. Neither Odin nor Zeus have any feats even remotely on that scale. They were begging for Eternity and Infinity's help.

Dormammu has stomped Mephisto in his own realm, yes, he soloes.

Fair enough i misunderstood :)

I totally agree, and i always have, that two skyfather dont have what if takes to fight Dormammu.

#42 Posted by Killemall (18246 posts) - - Show Bio

@Nessy said:

If Dormammu consistently did the feats mentioned in this thread, he would never be defeated by comparatively weak beings...which he always does.

I assume you are talking about Dr. Strange, which to the best of my knoweledge (i am far far far away from being a Dr. Strange expert) always involves context, like him being able to use powers from the ancent one to BFR him rather than beat him, powerful artifacts etc.

#43 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (11698 posts) - - Show Bio

Dormammu solos .... only pc darkseid would be a factor.

#44 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@BigCimmerian said:
Darkseid gets stepped on, Odin and Zeus together could take down Dormammu.

#45 Edited by fondofpacman (567 posts) - - Show Bio

Neither Eternity nor Dormammu was killed in that altercation, but both were temporarily incapacitated. Dormammu was transported to a random dimension in the maelstrom, and Eternity (the entity) simply dissipated for an extended time period.

But stalemating Eternity is still a great feat I'd say, don't think any current Marvel writers have the balls to write Odin or Zeus as near-universe busters...although with the love modern writers have been giving Thor characters, who knows.

[Edit: Ah, my bad, someone already respond to you Killemall, i shoulda read the 3rd page.]

#46 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3578 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

@BigCimmerian said:
Darkseid gets stepped on, Odin and Zeus together could take down Dormammu.

Under what plot device?

#47 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@BigCimmerian said:
Darkseid gets stepped on, Odin and Zeus together could take down Dormammu.

Under what plot device?

None.

#48 Posted by ghost_rider1 (3413 posts) - - Show Bio
@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia

@BigCimmerian: I adamantly disagree. Dormammu's above Skyfather IMO.

Dormammu said so himself that his power matches odin. Odin and zeus together could take dormammu. Darkseid will only be a distraction
#49 Posted by ShootingNova (15469 posts) - - Show Bio

@ghost_rider1: When? Besides, statements mean nothing it there are contradicting feats. Show me Odin or Zeus stalemating Eternity. They were begging for his help.

#50 Edited by fondofpacman (567 posts) - - Show Bio

@ghost_rider1: If that's true, he's been retconned down from a universe-buster/nigh-universe-buster to a wimpy skyfather.

Also, provide the scan of him saying that please.