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#1 Posted by Doomnaut (1993 posts) - - Show Bio

Rules:

-Win by death

-No BFR or BFD (Battlefield destruction)

-Bloodlust on

-Hunter/Prey Doomsday

-World Breaker Hulk and Chaos War Abomination

-Doomsday has 1 life

Fight takes place on Apokolips:

Who wins?

#2 Edited by Clark_EL (2654 posts) - - Show Bio
#3 Edited by XImpossibruX (5174 posts) - - Show Bio

Doomsday took down Superman, the JLA and an avatar of Darkseid. Fast enough to react to FTL fliers, and constant adapting and strength to rival Supes.

If he could deal with Hulk and his regen before he is angry enough to actually take Doomsday down is the question. However i give Doomsday 8/10, Abomination is pretty non-factor.

#5 Posted by CalebHara (2329 posts) - - Show Bio

Meeester Doomsday.

#6 Edited by Doomnaut (1993 posts) - - Show Bio

Anyone want to defend team Hulk?

#7 Posted by rolldestroyer (3508 posts) - - Show Bio

doomsday

#8 Posted by Vaeternus (9410 posts) - - Show Bio
#9 Posted by Clark_EL (2654 posts) - - Show Bio
#10 Posted by The_Imperator (1928 posts) - - Show Bio

I could see World Breaker Hulk actually able to hold his own with Doomsday, strength wise, and being on Apokalips means if WB hulk lets loose, he probably doesn't shatter the planet. So this probably would be whoever tires out first.

#11 Posted by Doomnaut (1993 posts) - - Show Bio

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#12 Edited by Doomnaut (1993 posts) - - Show Bio

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#13 Edited by 80sBaby (1343 posts) - - Show Bio

Team wins. Hulk solos.

When Doomsday can sink a continent by jogging or kill Wonder Woman as an aftereffect from colliding with Superman, let me know.

#14 Edited by Comiccrazeraze (427 posts) - - Show Bio

@doomnaut: I actually will take this to defend the team, see the big catch here for doomsday is taking them both down before he dies, if your rules are correct than doomsday reincarnation wouldn't count so it would just wind down to the first death. OR am i reading to far into it? If its like true true death then doomsday wins, he just keeps coming back.

Oh holy crap just read the whole Doomsday has one life thing yeah this goes to the team

#15 Edited by ZombieMowlcher (677 posts) - - Show Bio

DoomsDay is just too fast and hits too hard for Hulk and Abom to deal with. DD trades blows with SuperMan. These two are gonna have it rough.

#16 Posted by Doomnaut (1993 posts) - - Show Bio
#17 Posted by Comiccrazeraze (427 posts) - - Show Bio
#18 Edited by dum529001 (1624 posts) - - Show Bio

How do you die and come back to life?

#19 Posted by dum529001 (1624 posts) - - Show Bio

DoomsDay is just too fast and hits too hard for Hulk and Abom to deal with. DD trades blows with SuperMan. These two are gonna have it rough.

Hulk has traded blows with most of the Marvel Universe.

#20 Edited by New_World_Order (13189 posts) - - Show Bio

Chaos War Abomination & World Breaker Hulk? They win. Either may win alone.

#21 Posted by MirrorWave4 (1099 posts) - - Show Bio

@zombiemowlcher: That's ABC logic, Doomsday never shown any greater feats then that. Darkseid doesn't count because Batman was able to kill him.

- Team wins because Doomsday has 1 life.

#22 Posted by BigCimmerian (8305 posts) - - Show Bio

World Breaker Hulk wins alone.

#23 Edited by fiodestromus (1022 posts) - - Show Bio

Worldbreaker Hulk could kind of solo but not a stomp.

Red Hulk would kind of just be annoyance to doomsday

WB hulk would eventually overpower him and kill him

but if Doomsday came back I do not really see any other way the team would kill him besides bashing him to death

#24 Posted by Sethlol (1296 posts) - - Show Bio

Doomsday.

#25 Edited by Pokeysteve (8298 posts) - - Show Bio

@80sbaby said:

Team wins. Hulk solos.

When Doomsday can sink a continent by jogging or kill Wonder Woman as an aftereffect from colliding with Superman, let me know.

Hunter Prey Doomsday has evolved past blunt force damage and has intense adaptation abilities. When either from the team can actually harm him, let me know.

#26 Posted by Stronger (4948 posts) - - Show Bio

World Breaker Hulk could win.

Abomination gets killed.

#27 Edited by 80sBaby (1343 posts) - - Show Bio

@80sbaby said:

Team wins. Hulk solos.

When Doomsday can sink a continent by jogging or kill Wonder Woman as an aftereffect from colliding with Superman, let me know.

Hunter Prey Doomsday has evolved past blunt force damage and has intense adaptation abilities. When either from the team can actually harm him, let me know.

No, he hasn't evolved past blunt force damage. He was killed by a bunch of kryptonians via punches.

That's me letting you know.

#28 Posted by Superbot400 (420 posts) - - Show Bio

People are underestimating how strong World Breaker Hulk actually was.

He ignored blows Wendigo, Bi-Beast, Fin Fan Foom, and a SIlver Surfer level foe. All of those characters are heavy hitters that could use to give Savage Hulk problems.

At Worldbreaker levels, they were just bugs to him.

#29 Posted by dodi (119 posts) - - Show Bio

Team would win. Abomination is a non-factor but WBH could take on Doomsday alone.

#30 Edited by Tacos_Kickass (844 posts) - - Show Bio

@80sbaby said:

@pokeysteve said:

@80sbaby said:

Team wins. Hulk solos.

When Doomsday can sink a continent by jogging or kill Wonder Woman as an aftereffect from colliding with Superman, let me know.

Hunter Prey Doomsday has evolved past blunt force damage and has intense adaptation abilities. When either from the team can actually harm him, let me know.

No, he hasn't evolved past blunt force damage. He was killed by a bunch of kryptonians via punches.

That's me letting you know.

Hunter Prey Doomsday was sent to the end of time, you might be thinking about a different version.

#31 Posted by 80sBaby (1343 posts) - - Show Bio

@80sbaby said:

@pokeysteve said:

@80sbaby said:

Team wins. Hulk solos.

When Doomsday can sink a continent by jogging or kill Wonder Woman as an aftereffect from colliding with Superman, let me know.

Hunter Prey Doomsday has evolved past blunt force damage and has intense adaptation abilities. When either from the team can actually harm him, let me know.

No, he hasn't evolved past blunt force damage. He was killed by a bunch of kryptonians via punches.

That's me letting you know.

Hunter Prey Doomsday was sent to the end of time, you might be thinking about a different version.

No, I'm not.

Doomsday was rescued from the end of time by Brainiac during Doomsday Wars.

#32 Posted by GodTriggerHulk (1998 posts) - - Show Bio

Doomsday is tough but beating up early 90's Supes isn't that big of a deal. WBH Hulk can planet bust by punching and continent bust by stepping. The Hulk also has his own adaptation powers. Adding Chaos War Abomination is icing on the cake, since Blonsky is stronger than a decently enraged Savage Hulk and is even further amped.

#33 Posted by TifaLockhart (14050 posts) - - Show Bio

Darkseid does count. Batman shot him with a Radion bullet.

That said, team gamma wins.

#34 Posted by Pokeysteve (8298 posts) - - Show Bio

@80sbaby said:

@pokeysteve said:

@80sbaby said:

Team wins. Hulk solos.

When Doomsday can sink a continent by jogging or kill Wonder Woman as an aftereffect from colliding with Superman, let me know.

Hunter Prey Doomsday has evolved past blunt force damage and has intense adaptation abilities. When either from the team can actually harm him, let me know.

No, he hasn't evolved past blunt force damage. He was killed by a bunch of kryptonians via punches.

That's me letting you know.

As someone already pointed out, that wasn't Hunter/Prey Doomsday. Even if you wanted to use that version of him, a mob of Kryptonians is way above Abom and Hulk.

#35 Posted by XImpossibruX (5174 posts) - - Show Bio

It's already been proven that in Superman's fourth encounter with Doomsday he cannot fully adapt to be immune to physical damage.

However he still takes it.

#36 Posted by 80sBaby (1343 posts) - - Show Bio

@80sbaby said:

@pokeysteve said:

@80sbaby said:

Team wins. Hulk solos.

When Doomsday can sink a continent by jogging or kill Wonder Woman as an aftereffect from colliding with Superman, let me know.

Hunter Prey Doomsday has evolved past blunt force damage and has intense adaptation abilities. When either from the team can actually harm him, let me know.

No, he hasn't evolved past blunt force damage. He was killed by a bunch of kryptonians via punches.

That's me letting you know.

As someone already pointed out, that wasn't Hunter/Prey Doomsday. Even if you wanted to use that version of him, a mob of Kryptonians is way above Abom and Hulk.

And as I pointed out, H/P Doomsday was rescued from entropy by Brainac.

Now prove any of those kryptonians are above WB Hulk or Abomination. What feats do they have that equal/surpass Hulk's?

#37 Edited by spiderbuck (2454 posts) - - Show Bio

@stronger said:

World Breaker Hulk could win.

Abomination gets killed.

Except Chao War Abomination CAN'T die.

Team wins.

#38 Posted by Beast_of_Brass (153 posts) - - Show Bio

Doomsday. Too fast.

#39 Posted by HellionVulcan (3772 posts) - - Show Bio

@stronger said:

World Breaker Hulk could win.

Abomination gets killed.

Except Chao War Abomination CAN'T die.

Team wins.

Even current abomination is a ghost & would solo lol .

#40 Posted by Pokeysteve (8298 posts) - - Show Bio

@80sbaby said:

@pokeysteve said:

@80sbaby said:

@pokeysteve said:

@80sbaby said:

Team wins. Hulk solos.

When Doomsday can sink a continent by jogging or kill Wonder Woman as an aftereffect from colliding with Superman, let me know.

Hunter Prey Doomsday has evolved past blunt force damage and has intense adaptation abilities. When either from the team can actually harm him, let me know.

No, he hasn't evolved past blunt force damage. He was killed by a bunch of kryptonians via punches.

That's me letting you know.

As someone already pointed out, that wasn't Hunter/Prey Doomsday. Even if you wanted to use that version of him, a mob of Kryptonians is way above Abom and Hulk.

And as I pointed out, H/P Doomsday was rescued from entropy by Brainac.

Now prove any of those kryptonians are above WB Hulk or Abomination. What feats do they have that equal/surpass Hulk's?

He did rescue Hunter/Prey Doomsday. And then several experiments were done altering Doomsday's power levels. Hunter Prey and Doomsday Wars (I think) are the only true incarnations of Hunter/Prey Doomsday.

For one they're Kryptonian. Adult Kryptonian's. What feats do either of the team have that put them on Supergirl or Superman's level? Plus there is only two of them. Hunter/Prey Doomsday took the Justice League apart. The A team. Not the B listers.

#41 Edited by 80sBaby (1343 posts) - - Show Bio

@80sbaby said:

@pokeysteve said:

@80sbaby said:

@pokeysteve said:

@80sbaby said:

Team wins. Hulk solos.

When Doomsday can sink a continent by jogging or kill Wonder Woman as an aftereffect from colliding with Superman, let me know.

Hunter Prey Doomsday has evolved past blunt force damage and has intense adaptation abilities. When either from the team can actually harm him, let me know.

No, he hasn't evolved past blunt force damage. He was killed by a bunch of kryptonians via punches.

That's me letting you know.

As someone already pointed out, that wasn't Hunter/Prey Doomsday. Even if you wanted to use that version of him, a mob of Kryptonians is way above Abom and Hulk.

And as I pointed out, H/P Doomsday was rescued from entropy by Brainac.

Now prove any of those kryptonians are above WB Hulk or Abomination. What feats do they have that equal/surpass Hulk's?

He did rescue Hunter/Prey Doomsday. And then several experiments were done altering Doomsday's power levels. Hunter Prey and Doomsday Wars (I think) are the only true incarnations of Hunter/Prey Doomsday.

For one they're Kryptonian. Adult Kryptonian's. What feats do either of the team have that put them on Supergirl or Superman's level? Plus there is only two of them. Hunter/Prey Doomsday took the Justice League apart. The A team. Not the B listers.

The Doomsday that you're speaking of is a clone created after OWAW. It was taken out in Superman #175. The real DD has shown up since then.

All kryptonians aren't equal to Superman. And neither Superman nor Supergirl have done anything which places them stronger than WB Hulk.

His collision with an equal completely obliterated 2 amped class 100's as well as an above Top Tier. Not to mention an entire army of Mindless Ones, which Umar was incapable of stopping. H/P Doomsday has nothing on that. Yeah, he KO'd the League but WB Hulk incinerated Class 100 level beings as a side effect. That's like Doomsday punching Superman and Wonder Woman dies from the shockwave.

@stronger said:

World Breaker Hulk could win.

Abomination gets killed.

Except Chao War Abomination CAN'T die.

Team wins.

I thought that was the case but wasn't sure. I recall CW Blonsky as being pretty tough.

#42 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (12176 posts) - - Show Bio

Besides all the Hulk/Abom wank and out of context Doomsday downplaying.....

Doomsday blitzes them and adapts to their strength....H/P Dday was PIS, developing powers and anti powers on the fly....he tunred Supergirls face to paste from what I remember......

#43 Posted by Pokeysteve (8298 posts) - - Show Bio

@80sbaby:

The Doomsday that you're speaking of is a clone created after OWAW. It was taken out in Superman #175. The real DD has shown up since then.

All kryptonians aren't equal to Superman. And neither Superman nor Supergirl have done anything which places them stronger than WB Hulk.

His collision with an equal completely obliterated 2 amped class 100's as well as an above Top Tier. Not to mention an entire army of Mindless Ones, which Umar was incapable of stopping. H/P Doomsday has nothing on that. Yeah, he KO'd the League but WB Hulk incinerated Class 100 level beings as a side effect. That's like Doomsday punching Superman and Wonder Woman dies from the shockwave.

The Doomsday I'm talking about was before OWAW. I'm pretty sure, not 100%, that the Doomsday in 175 is the real Doomsday with altered DNA done by Lex.

Zod always showed to be a match in strength and speed for Clark. Why would the rest of the adult males be the same?

Being a class 100 doesn't mean they have amazing durability. I don't see how that's a strength feat anyways. I would love to see scans of that though. WWH was a great story and I'd like to read more with him in it.

#44 Posted by spiderbuck (2454 posts) - - Show Bio

@80sbaby said:

@pokeysteve said:

@80sbaby said:

@pokeysteve said:

@80sbaby said:

@pokeysteve said:

@80sbaby said:

Team wins. Hulk solos.

When Doomsday can sink a continent by jogging or kill Wonder Woman as an aftereffect from colliding with Superman, let me know.

Hunter Prey Doomsday has evolved past blunt force damage and has intense adaptation abilities. When either from the team can actually harm him, let me know.

No, he hasn't evolved past blunt force damage. He was killed by a bunch of kryptonians via punches.

That's me letting you know.

As someone already pointed out, that wasn't Hunter/Prey Doomsday. Even if you wanted to use that version of him, a mob of Kryptonians is way above Abom and Hulk.

And as I pointed out, H/P Doomsday was rescued from entropy by Brainac.

Now prove any of those kryptonians are above WB Hulk or Abomination. What feats do they have that equal/surpass Hulk's?

He did rescue Hunter/Prey Doomsday. And then several experiments were done altering Doomsday's power levels. Hunter Prey and Doomsday Wars (I think) are the only true incarnations of Hunter/Prey Doomsday.

For one they're Kryptonian. Adult Kryptonian's. What feats do either of the team have that put them on Supergirl or Superman's level? Plus there is only two of them. Hunter/Prey Doomsday took the Justice League apart. The A team. Not the B listers.

The Doomsday that you're speaking of is a clone created after OWAW. It was taken out in Superman #175. The real DD has shown up since then.

All kryptonians aren't equal to Superman. And neither Superman nor Supergirl have done anything which places them stronger than WB Hulk.

His collision with an equal completely obliterated 2 amped class 100's as well as an above Top Tier. Not to mention an entire army of Mindless Ones, which Umar was incapable of stopping. H/P Doomsday has nothing on that. Yeah, he KO'd the League but WB Hulk incinerated Class 100 level beings as a side effect. That's like Doomsday punching Superman and Wonder Woman dies from the shockwave.

@spiderbuck said:

@stronger said:

World Breaker Hulk could win.

Abomination gets killed.

Except Chao War Abomination CAN'T die.

Team wins.

I thought that was the case but wasn't sure. I recall CW Blonsky as being pretty tough.

Yup. He was a bad mofo. Did you vote in that SBP vs Mr Maj thread?? There's a pretty good debate going on in there, it seems like a wash. Based on the scans and what I know I want to say SBP but I don't know enough about Maj.

#45 Edited by comic_book_fan (5635 posts) - - Show Bio

the team.

#46 Edited by Superbot400 (420 posts) - - Show Bio

Besides all the Hulk/Abom wank and out of context Doomsday downplaying.....

Doomsday blitzes them and adapts to their strength....H/P Dday was PIS, developing powers and anti powers on the fly....he tunred Supergirls face to paste from what I remember......

......Funny how you call reasonable, and rational arguments wank. I would really love to see where people getting this idea that DD can blitz people, adapt powers without dying because that's not happen when Superman fought him. Because Hulk is going to be at the strongest and angriest that Hulk has ever been, Hulk's strength is not static.

@80sbaby:

The Doomsday that you're speaking of is a clone created after OWAW. It was taken out in Superman #175. The real DD has shown up since then.

All kryptonians aren't equal to Superman. And neither Superman nor Supergirl have done anything which places them stronger than WB Hulk.

His collision with an equal completely obliterated 2 amped class 100's as well as an above Top Tier. Not to mention an entire army of Mindless Ones, which Umar was incapable of stopping. H/P Doomsday has nothing on that. Yeah, he KO'd the League but WB Hulk incinerated Class 100 level beings as a side effect. That's like Doomsday punching Superman and Wonder Woman dies from the shockwave.

The Doomsday I'm talking about was before OWAW. I'm pretty sure, not 100%, that the Doomsday in 175 is the real Doomsday with altered DNA done by Lex.

Zod always showed to be a match in strength and speed for Clark. Why would the rest of the adult males be the same?

Being a class 100 doesn't mean they have amazing durability. I don't see how that's a strength feat anyways. I would love to see scans of that though. WWH was a great story and I'd like to read more with him in it.

Fin Fang Foom, Bi-beast, Armageddon, and Wendigo could trade blows with the Savage Hulk/Thor. Fin Fang Foom could survive pressure from Earth, being throw to the Moon by Hulk, no-sell attacks from Puslar, being to whipping around the wall of china. Savage Hulk would not be able to overpower them like the way that Worldbreaker Hulk does. The level that Worldbreaker was at was able to destroy them without even noticing or caring about them. Hulk at normal levels could never do that. Armageddon defeated the Silver Surfer, and he was tanked blows from the world-breaker that holding back on Earth.

#47 Edited by Pokeysteve (8298 posts) - - Show Bio

@superbot400:

I'm sorry but I'm not sure what point you were trying to make in your post to me.

About your reply to AoD though

......Funny how you call reasonable, and rational arguments wank. I would really love to see where people getting this idea that DD can blitz people, adapt powers without dying because that's not happen when Superman fought him. Because Hulk is going to be at the strongest and angriest that Hulk has ever been, Hulk's strength is not static.

The Doomsday in this battle is not the one that fought Superman but the version right after. That version is known as Hunter/Prey Doomsday. He grew claws that shot out of his hand to catch a flying Superman and developed flame breath to incapacitate Martian Manhunter. As far as him blitzing people goes, Superman said in their first fight that Doomsday was incredibly fast and even caught him off guard. Hulk and Abom don't have speed anywhere near that level.

#48 Posted by Inconvenient_Truth (2362 posts) - - Show Bio

im going with HP DD

#49 Posted by comic_book_fan (5635 posts) - - Show Bio

hulk solos he has feats that puts dd to shame he shattered shields design to block celestial attacks.

he over powered force weapons designed to knock planets out of orbit.

he has destroyed an asteroid the size of earth.

and was strong enough to stagger high-end cosmic beings

and these were all before wwh and the worldbreaker stories

counting them he has destroyed 3 planets and held one together.

#50 Edited by dum529001 (1624 posts) - - Show Bio

@ximpossibrux:

@pokeysteve:

Doomsday has no feats of speed other than fighting evenly with Superman and JLA.

There's a lot of people don't have Superman's isolated feats but have shown to be just as fast as him and match him in battle.

I wouldn't deny someone has great speed if their physical power is great, especially if the character has history of not being slow. If you go only by individual feats however......

But if you go by only individual feats then Superman should beat Doomsday because Doomsday is too slow . We would say that because Doomsday hasn't done things that usually involve flight, so he should be considered a slowpoke.

This is what you get when you look at individual feats while completely the context of a writer's intent or common sense.

So, who cares if Doomsday has matched Superman in virtually every way? That's nothing the Hulk hasn't done with the equally great characters of the Marvel Universe.

Doomsday is slow. Case closed.

We focus only on individual feats on Comicivine and ignore all else!! This website is not the place for common sense! Visit some other website if that's what your'e looking for.