Doomsday is WWhulk!!
Right this is a strange battle,Doomsday {d-o-s version} is playing the roll of hulk in wwhulk,can he beat all those hulk did???? remember all the fights,hulk won some with more than just strength,can doomsday complete the task in the same amount of time hulk did right up to the point of him reverting back to bruce. Think of it almost as much as a time trial as a fight.
" @llagrok: juggernaut ?? "Well, the juggernaut walked into a small pond and apparently that was enough to stall him....
No one can truly defeat the Juggernaut through physical force though, so if they were to actually fight then Doomsday would go down sooner or later. I also believe it's difficult to call how Darwin would proceed here, for all we know he might evolve in a less-incredibly poorly written way and not teleport away.
lol yeah,my thinking with this fight is,could doomsday of done it in the same amount of time as hulk??? hulk removed juggs,would dd? the battles for both are more even now because of the time hulk set.
" @llagrok: lo yeah,my thinking with this fight is,could doomsday of done it in the same amount of time as hulk??? hulk removed juggs,would dd? the battles for both are more even now because of the time hulk set. "I think that Doomsday could remove Juggernaut a lot faster than the Hulk, but I don't really believe that the Hulk moved him at all. Letting Cain run 20 feet into a pond should in no way constitute as a BFR or anything. DoS version can not defeat the Juggernaut though, you need BrainiacDoomsday for that.
agreed,the juggs in the pond thing was weak writing for sure,could of been a epic one there.
cant do it,only fight as in the story.dd must go through the same trials as hulk did,but in a quicker amount of time.
" @llagrok: agreed,the juggs in the pond thing was weak writing for sure,could of been a epic one there. "Yeah. I guess the writers were pressed for time, but the x-men really got the short end of the stick in that story. Just like every other character in the entire WWH arc was brought down to suit Pak's mad vision of the Hulk.
Really, Reed Richards would absolutely destroy anyone with a minute's notice, plain and simple :)
" @D3athstroke: cant do it,only fight as in the story.dd must go through the same trials as hulk did,but in a quicker amount of time. "Well then Ghost Rider Will Kill Him
" @D3athstroke: @llagrok: so could dd beat hulks rampage time?? could he complete it all faster? "No.
Well, the problem is that I don't believe the Hulk was capable of those things in the first place. But, under the assumption that WWH was not poorly written, Doomsday could accomplish the same things even faster. However, Ghost Rider in his zartharos form, the fantastic four and Juggernaut, would all be able to stop him, just like they should have completely demolished WWH." @D3athstroke: @llagrok: so could dd beat hulks rampage time?? could he complete it all faster? "
Well just judging by doomsdays character he would try to defeats juggs by physical force and not BFR him,i dont think he could get past ghost rider in zarathos form and dr.strange im not to sure about.everyone else i think he can beat
Answer: No.
1.He is guilty for many crimes, so Ghost Rider would stop him. He is not innocent.
2.Starnge won't hold back. He won't try to convince him to anything, he will BFR him or do some magic stuff to defeat him.
3.He won't outsmart Juggernaut. This will probably be a stalemate.
" @llagrok: juggernaut ?? "Juggernaut didn't show up at full power. He showed up in plainclothes and and massively depowered. Hulk knocked him out. Doomsday would kill that version of Juggernaut.
I give it to Doomsday. I'm sure WWHulk would give him one hell of a brawl, but Doomsday thrives on that type of physicality, and unlike Sentry, he could probably trade blow for blow without ever powering down, which puts WWHulk at one hell of a disadvantage.
" Answer: No. 1.He is guilty for many crimes, so Ghost Rider would stop him. He is not innocent. 2.Starnge won't hold back. He won't try to convince him to anything, he will BFR him or do some magic stuff to defeat him. 3.He won't outsmart Juggernaut. This will probably be a stalemate. "Does he have a soul for GR to use the Penance Stare on?
@TheJuggernautpunch said:
Thanks. :)" @czarny_samael: Welcome back . "
@Lance Uppercut said:
" @the darknessss said:" @llagrok: juggernaut ?? "Juggernaut didn't show up at full power. He showed up in plainclothes and and massively depowered. Hulk knocked him out. Doomsday would kill that version of Juggernaut. "
Didn't Cyttorak give him all his power for this fight? Juggernaut was so angry that he accepted all Cyttorak's terms for back to his original powers.
@The Average Bear said:
" @czarny_samael said:" Answer: No. 1.He is guilty for many crimes, so Ghost Rider would stop him. He is not innocent. 2.Starnge won't hold back. He won't try to convince him to anything, he will BFR him or do some magic stuff to defeat him. 3.He won't outsmart Juggernaut. This will probably be a stalemate. "Does he have a soul for GR to use the Penance Stare on? "
I think that Doomsday (as WWHulk) can't really destroy GR, but this time GR won't hold back like he did last time. I think that Doomsday don't have a soul and PS won't work and this will be a long fight, maybe even a stalemate, but I think that GR is fauvorite here.
" @TheJuggernautpunch said:Er, no. If this is going the way the comics did, Juggernaut showed up at his Chuck Austin levels. It wasn't until after he'd gotten owned by the Hulk that he had a sit down with Cyttorak, where Cyttorak revealed that it was Cain who was holding himself back and limiting his power. Once Juggernaut started using it for selfish and destructive purposes again, he was back on top. But Doomsday won't give him that opportunity here.Thanks. :)" @czarny_samael: Welcome back . "
@Lance Uppercut said:" @the darknessss said:" @llagrok: juggernaut ?? "Juggernaut didn't show up at full power. He showed up in plainclothes and and massively depowered. Hulk knocked him out. Doomsday would kill that version of Juggernaut. "
Didn't Cyttorak give him all his power for this fight? Juggernaut was so angry that he accepted all Cyttorak's terms for back to his original powers.
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Edit: To answer the OP, I think it's a difficult/complicated question. Are we putting taking world war hulks events and substituting Doomsday? or doomsday lands on marvel earth seeking vengeance on the illuminati and the same people rise up to challenge him as did hulk? Their approach would obviously be different, Dr. Strange wouldn't try appeal to his human side and Mr. fantastic wouldn't try to impersonate sentry for example....
" @czarny_samael said:1.I forgot that they fought two times." @TheJuggernautpunch said:Er, no. If this is going the way the comics did, Juggernaut showed up at his Chuck Austin levels. It wasn't until after he'd gotten owned by the Hulk that he had a sit down with Cyttorak, where Cyttorak revealed that it was Cain who was holding himself back and limiting his power. Once Juggernaut started using it for selfish and destructive purposes again, he was back on top. But Doomsday won't give him that opportunity here. "Thanks. :)" @czarny_samael: Welcome back . "
@Lance Uppercut said:" @the darknessss said:" @llagrok: juggernaut ?? "Juggernaut didn't show up at full power. He showed up in plainclothes and and massively depowered. Hulk knocked him out. Doomsday would kill that version of Juggernaut. "
Didn't Cyttorak give him all his power for this fight? Juggernaut was so angry that he accepted all Cyttorak's terms for back to his original powers.
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2.We don't know it for sure.I think that he was durable enough (maybe even immortal as he is full power) to show his powers second time like he did against WWHulk. We know that he was less strong and less durable than in full power, but I don't think that we can assume that he was also mortal in that fight.
@vuviper said:
" @czarny_samael: I think Doomsday may be able to destroy GR but I only have a vague idea of ghost riders powers. Also because Doomsday has been tested against vastly powerful cosmic beings but not really tested much against magical energy (at least not that I remember) my opinion is largely speculative. "
And this tell us that Doomsday probably didn't evolve any magic abilities (defensive or ofensive). Now I can say that it is safety to say that it will be a stalemate.
@vuviper said:Yes, but what we don't know, is if his defense against the wide variety of other types or energies will suffice to protect him from/allow him to harm magical beings. Another unanswered question is whether he can evolve magical abilities at all and also, if his current abilities do not suffice, if he would be able to obtain the appropriate ones in time. I personally see no reason why magical energy would stump doomsday when he was able to resist/manipulate/combat cosmic energies from a Guardian and an avatar of Darkseid, Telepathic energies of Martian Manhunter, Temporal energies from Waverider, and a variety of more traditional energy attacks." @czarny_samael: I think Doomsday may be able to destroy GR but I only have a vague idea of ghost riders powers. Also because Doomsday has been tested against vastly powerful cosmic beings but not really tested much against magical energy (at least not that I remember) my opinion is largely speculative. "And this tell us that Doomsday probably didn't evolve any magic abilities (defensive or ofensive). Now I can say that it is safety to say that it will be a stalemate. "
Ah now that I think about it, Doomsday did seem to be unaffected by the mystical energies of the Blood gem, so that indicates at least that it is not a weakness of his.
Yeah, I don't doubt that Doomsday will easily win they first fight. But I doubt that Cain could be killed or damaged so bad, that Cyttorak won't be able to heal him." @czarny_samael: 2. Yeah we do. This is the same version of Juggernaut that had his ass handed to him by the wrecking crew. Those guys haven't been a decent team in years, and Juggernaut went down like a sack of hammers. No you're grasping at straws over it. "
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