Dooku runs a gauntlet

ROTS Dooku, prime everyone else. Morals off no morals. On the Invisible Hand healed after every round. If stops pretend he keeps going and state what would happen.

1. Ahsoka Tano

2. Asajj Ventress

3. ROTJ Luke Skywalker

4. Lumiya

5. Mace Windu

6. Anakin Skywalker

7. Maul and Savage

8. Yoda

9. Darth Plagueis and Tenebrous

10. ROTS Sidious and ROTJ Vader

This is quite... out of order.

Stops at 3, then stops again at 5 (well, actually, Lumiya is fairly inconsistent), then stops at 7, then at 8, and gets mortifyingly humiliated in the last two rounds.

@shootingnova: I thought about Maul and Savage being above Skywalker. Ill fix that

@Jedixman: @dccomicsrule2011:

@darth_necray: Maul and Savage, collectively, are also above Mace and probably Anakin as well.

@shootingnova: Are you sure about that Nova? I usually take your opinion on things but I don't see them being ROTS Windu level. Maul is probably just above ROTS Obi Wan and Savage is like Ahsoka level.

@darth_necray: No, he's not. Savage would wreck Ahsoka.

@shootingnova: Maybe Asajj then. I don't see Opress as being enough to put them above Mace or Anakin.

@darth_necray: Yes, it is, when Maul is already a challenge for either of them.

Savage is within Ventress's range, and Ventress has challenged both Anakin and Mace before.

@shootingnova: but wasn't she handled by an injured Plo Koon. I mean Maul can decisevely beat Obi. But would lose to either Mace or Anakin. I just don't think Savage is enough. I should put them above Lumiya though

@darth_necray: No, she wasn't. Plo took one of her blades, and then she regained the advantage and the duel as interrupted. She was winning by the end of the duel.

And then in another instance, when Plo was completely fine, they were completely even for the short period that they dueled.

@shootingnova: she shouldn't of been so dependent on her second blade lol. The best we've seen from Savage was his force rage against Dooku and Ventress, when they were occupied with each other. This only happened after finding out of his manipulation and may never happen again.

@darth_necray: Savage has other showings. He defeated Plo Koon (mostly by taking advantage of his breath mask, but he was also hindered by Clone Troopers shooting at him), was more or less winning against Ventress, joined Maul in blasting a company of soldiers off a bridge, wrecked a number of featless Jedi, etc.

@shootingnova: Mace was trading blows with Sidious (weather that was force amp is out of my knowledge) and Anakin handled Dooku a rough equal to Mace right?

@darth_necray: Yes, it was an amp, because if it were not for that amp, Mace would have died just as quickly as any of the other masters.

@shootingnova: Mace has dueled on equal ground with Yoda IIRC

@darth_necray: No, he didn't. He is in the same tier of skill, but not only does he personally argue that he is a padawan before Yoda, but he has also lost to Yoda and plenty of sources have shown that Yoda is the better duelist:

To the uninitiated, lightsaber combat can seem like a confusing blur of swipes and blade clashes, but on close examination, the secrets of the Jedi Knights become clear. To understand the combat of these warriors, we must delve into the sacred history of the fabled Seven Forms of Jedi lightsaber combat and look at how these have played out in the Star Wars saga. Only then can we understand the extraordinary combat moves of Yoda, perhaps the greatest lightsaber master the Jedi Order has ever seen.

Source: Insider #62: Fightsaber: Jedi Lightsaber Combat

With a stooped, small appearance, Yoda may not look like a warrior, but his skills with a lightsaber were unequaled.

Source: Lightsabers: A Guide to the Weapons of the Force

Master Windu was also known within the Order for his unusual fighting style, one that he developed after studying the dueling styles of various lightsaber masters. His attacks consisted of relentless, unpredictable blows, like shots from an autoblaster. Master Windu himself remained perfectly balanced and centered. In the history of the Jedi Order, only two opponents ever overcame him in battle. One was Master Yoda, who some said was the Order's true master of lightsaber combat. The other was former Master Dooku, whose own fighting style was archaic, yet stunningly effective.

Source: Power of the Jedi Sourcebook

Though it was true that he had slowed slightly in the years that Mace Windu had known him, Yoda's skill with a lightsaber was still second to none on the council.

Source: Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter

http://web.archive.org/web/20051125042817/http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/bts/production/news20000711b.html

"Mace Windu's fighting abilities are second only to Yoda."

(5:28 - 5:35):

"We have not seen Mace fight yet, and we know he's second only to Yoda."

And Yoda is outright the most powerful Jedi up to and of his time:

Inside the spacious interior of the Galactic Senate chamber, Yoda challenged the Emperor. The two engaged in a spectacular duel—a contest between the most powerful practitioners of the Force’s light and dark sides.

Source: The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia

@darth_necray: he gets stomped at 3

@shootingnova: And that is exactly why I never want to CaV with you, ever. Maul is better then Opress by my a very large margin. Opress could weigh him down.

@rd1027: ROTJ Luke, stomping Dooku. Tell me more

Sounds about right.

@darth_necray: Not necessarily by a huge margin. Maul's victory over Savage in their personal duel was swift due to a number of factors. None of this matters because either Mace or Anakin could try to fight the duo and would not win.

@shootingnova: Priortizing the better one could be crucial

@darth_necray: No, it won't, because they would still lose a majority. Maul alone gives them a good fight, so they would not down him quickly enough, especially not with Savage's interference, which would assure Maul the victory.

@darth_necray: If its Luke by the end of ROTJ then yes he loses. Meant stopped, not stomped but Luke should take a solid majority

@shootingnova: okay I concede. I can't handle the stress of this

@rd1027: The same Luke that @shootingnova: said in another thread could of got killed by Vader in their battle. ROTJ Vader couldnt take a majority against ROTS Dooku

@darth_necray: What did I say about Luke getting killed by Vader?

And yes, RotJ Vader does take a majority over RotS dooku, or at least in my view.

@shootingnova: In the thread Darth Vader vs Plo Koon and Kit Fisto. I don't know what to believe any more, most of my time on vine has been you telling me that Dooku is vastly superior to whatever I put hime against. But, now I guess he gets beat by Vader and the like. I think Im just gonna take a break from CV for a while.

@darth_necray: No, I never said Dooku is vastly superior to Vader, especially considering Vader is also well ahead of most of the characters you use. And part of the reason that Vader beats Tyranus is because his Djem So would probably exhaust the Count eventually, since it's something of an inherent edge against Makashi practitioners.

What did I say in that thread? Because I certainly didn't say that Luke would get killed by Vader. Sure, he might lose if Vader chooses to operate his powers, but I never said anything about him getting killed or what not.

@shootingnova: You said COULD of been killed. Dooku is vastly superior to just about anyone I put him against (you're words) and I guess Vader is too. I dont know anymore.

@darth_necray: Yes?

@shootingnova: You said could of been killed. Dooku is vastly superior to whoever I put him against (your words) but I guess Vader is too.

@darth_necray: Of course he could have been killed. And so could have Vader.

@shootingnova: Do you recall the statement Im speaking of.

Savage Opress is Ahsoka level now... LOL

LOLWUT?! Man what were you thinking when you made this?! lol

He gets absolutely embarrassed in these last three rounds.

And this:

"Okay, well, this sequence always started out with Mace overpowering Palpatine, and then Palpatine using his powers to try to destroy Mace, and Mace deflecting his rays with his lightsaber. And it always was that Anakin cut the lightsaber out of his hand. But this part where he pretends to lose his power and be weak was something that I added later, 'cause this is, it moved the point where Anakin turns down to this moment right here, and you can see now, that it's very clear that he's, he, he wants him to go on trial so he can pump him for information about how to get these powers."

--Taken from the Revenge of the Sith commentary

Straight from Lucas himself.

@darth_necray: No, I don't.

Well, we all know that Ahsoka>Maul so that is a very plausible statement. XD

@shootingnova: You posted quotes and a scan from the ROTJ comic.

@darth_necray: Stating that Luke was equal to and gained advantages over Vader?

@shootingnova: I think so. If thats the case then Dooku couldn't get past Luke.

@darth_necray: Yes, he can, because Vader withheld offensive Force power in that fight, and would have ragdolled Luke. Tyranus would be able to do so as well.

@shootingnova: What Ive gathered over time is whenever Anakin loses in the climax of a film its CIS

If he kills Anakin, then he stops on Maul and Savage. And even with some epic luck he survives, then Yoda kills him.

@darth_necray: Yes.

@shootingnova: way to go GL

@darth_necray: Luke's instance wasn't so much CIS (you could say that it was on Vader's part to fail his Dun Moch). It's mostly Anakin vs Obi-Wan.

@shootingnova: And Luke getting away in ESTB. Vader tried to hard in ROTJ

Maul and Savage.