Doctor Doom vs Superman

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@experio: Uh, no. Superman can't harm Doom any more than the other mentioned heros can harm Doom.

Doom is walking prep.

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New 52 Superman gets stomped ten ways from Sunday, and probably most versions of Superman. As much as I hate to admit it.

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To everyone commenting here. Metropolis and latveria are existing locations... It's not a random encounter I'm pretty sure dr doom is going to be prepared for a supermanspeed blitz.

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If doom can be defeated by the fantastic four, superman should have no problem since they suck. Not just a general statement, they are a lame excuse for superheroes. The amount of comics I own where Spider-Man saves their worthless butts......

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@jagernutt: His really not, nor does he have the speed to react to Supermans blows and withstand them for a time being.

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@experio: Superman is not superior to the heroes Doom has easily defeated.

Superman is no where close to being powerful enough to be a real threat to Doom. Doom is walking prep for beings far more powerful than Superman.

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@jagernutt: So be it if you truly believe that, won't be convincing you of a win that is easily determined.

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@experio: I believe your among the minority on this one.

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Superman. Doom has no prep and his magic isn't strong enough to beat him

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You suppose Doom's magic can't put Superman down? If Supes manages somehow to keep fighting till Doom gets bored and does a mind switch.

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@dimitridkatsis: Is that to me?

Dooms magic can easily one shot the likes of Superman.

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@jagernutt no man to whoever thinks Supes has a chance.

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@ultinuc said:

Doom attacks Superman for flying in Latverian airspace,

So Doom is the aggresor, for the most part.

in this battle, the assumption is that both Latveria and Metropolis are both existing locations


And both know about eachother.

As in the Superman / Spider-Man crossover, this is going to mean Doom has Kryptonite. So, after Superman beats down the force field, and tears the armor off Doom, he discovers it's a robot. 100 more Doombots fly up to engage. This gives Doom enough time to field an adamantium re-enforced, Kryptonite ray equipped armor. (Then he'll just have to grab Parasite to rebuild his generator.) If neccessary, after he uses a time-stop spell similar to what Strange uses, or his own time machine to go back in time a few minutes.

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@jagernutt: Magik's magic is superior to Doom same with the Scarlet witch, his not second or even fourth. You're over rating Doom.

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@experio: How do you know that. Maybe that is recent event, but usually Doom is only second to Strange

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@experio: Magik is the demon queen of Limbo who carved up her own soul to make her sword. She doesn't know as much magic so much as she's a kick butt demonic being. (Currently being trained by Strange.) She does most of her effects more by force of will and raw power than knowledge.

Doom came in just behind Voodoo in the Vishanti's test. With Druid dead (... he is still dead, right?), this puts him likely at least keeps him in the top 5.

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@tyger: Fifth place is reasonable

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@experio: Dooms magic changes Superman to a Ninja Tutle, then Dooms tech dimension dumps him into Shredders living room.

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@experio: yeah, I'm thinking Loki and Morgan le Fey might still have this as far as pure magic, but weren't invited to the competition. Still, his magic is far from weak.

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Superman does this.

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@xiix: Yeah, Doom murder stomps.

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Doom wins because Superman won't want to attack him with full power and Doom's magic and force fields ought to win out.

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@superguy1591: It shouldnt matter what we see in just two scans. There is no way for us to know what led up to that moment or context from only two scans.

Superman doesn't have what it takes to beat Doom unless Doom is already exhausted from fighting everyone else.

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@jagernutt: Huh? Bloodlusted Superman can take Doom.

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Superman.

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@jagernutt: Bloodlusted Superman can just attack from space.

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@superguy1591:

And do what to Doom, and how?

Doom almost always ends up losing after a long fight against everyone else combined. A few of whom hit far harder than Superman.

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New 52 Superman has taken some EXTREME magic attacks (one planetary level I believe) and come out standing. Vulnerability =/= weakness, people need to get a grip on that. I don't see how a non-prep'd Doom (that even possible?) could take this with his standard means.

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@reactor: Superman has being less vulnerable to magic is cool.

But he really can't do anything to Doom. Doom has tanked punishment from more powerful opponents consistently. Doom even owns SS during every random encounter.