Doctor Doom VS Silver Surfer

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#1  Edited By Chibio

Chibi Wars! ^_^v
Doctor Doom VS Silver Surfer! Who would win in this epic battle?  

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In the early days Doctor Doom was doing just fine against the Silver Surfer, who then said they would be equals. Did something change by now? 
Let's assume Silver Surfer was not depowered by Galactus recently and he has his old power level. 
 
~ They're both in character!
~ Doctor Doom is expecting Silver Surfer and has 30 minutes of prep!  
~ Doctor Doom has his standard gear, but with the 30 minutes of prep, he can prepare tech, if it's already finished and just waiting for him to use it.
~ The fight is taking place in front of Doctor Doom's castle!
~ No BFR!
~ No Astral Plane for the Silver Surfer!  
~ Until giving up, K.O. or even death!
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#2  Edited By Hoboseid

Doom with prep has beat Odin, Celestials, Abstarcts, Galactus and even fought the preretcon Beyonder

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#3  Edited By tron_bonne

Even without prep Doom has stomped Surfer. 
Many times in comics I might add.

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#4  Edited By Jedisupermaster

@Hoboseid said:

Doom with prep has beat Odin, Celestials, Abstarcts, Galactus and even fought the preretcon Beyonder

PIS, no?

@tron_bonne said:

Even without prep Doom has stomped Surfer. Many times in comics I might add.

Maybe it was PIS?

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#5  Edited By Chibio
@Hoboseid said:

Doom with prep has beat Odin, Celestials, Abstarcts, Galactus and even fought the preretcon Beyonder

Yeah, but I don't think he will be that effective with only 30 minutes of prep. I see it being mostly something for him to set up few things and not bring in tactics which are awesome enough to steal the powers of the Beyonder!
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#6  Edited By Hoboseid

@Jedisupermaster said:

@Hoboseid said:

Doom with prep has beat Odin, Celestials, Abstarcts, Galactus and even fought the preretcon Beyonder

PIS, no?

In the whole tech/science/gadget area of intelligence Doom has done things that would make people like the Leader, Pym, Beast, Doc Ock, Xavier, Thinker, Banner etc look like a bunch of dumb fools. Tony Stark sometimes gets close to Doom with his science but Doom would be smarter, the only person who can challenge Doom in science is Reed

Doom also has expertise in non-sciences,

abstract sorcery, black magic, Doom has knowledge of magic that would challenge even Loki and Dr Strange

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#7  Edited By tron_bonne
@Jedisupermaster said:

@Hoboseid said:

Doom with prep has beat Odin, Celestials, Abstarcts, Galactus and even fought the preretcon Beyonder

PIS, no?

@tron_bonne said:

Even without prep Doom has stomped Surfer. Many times in comics I might add.

Maybe it was PIS?

Nope. Surfer has a power signature that Doom is familiar with. I mean he has to because Doom once had the full power of Galactus twice. So he knows Surfer's power. 
  
While a fake Doom (Doombot) can easily defeat Surfer.
 
 
 The Real Dr. Doom does the same with Galactus. 
  

 

Dr. Doom doesn't use PIS.  


It takes PIS to defeat Dr. Doom.

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#8  Edited By Chibio
@tron_bonne said:
While a fake Doom (Doombot) can easily defeat Surfer.
 
 
Was the Silver Surfer depowered there or something? Hard to believe that a Doombot can do something like that to him, since Void basically one-shotted a Doombot and Sentry destroyed everything that came afterwards. What happened exactly, when SS was facing the Doombot?
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#9  Edited By tron_bonne
@Chibio said:
@tron_bonne said:
While a fake Doom (Doombot) can easily defeat Surfer.
 
 
Was the Silver Surfer depowered there or something? Hard to believe that a Doombot can do something like that to him, since Void basically one-shotted a Doombot and Sentry destroyed everything that came afterwards. What happened exactly, when SS was facing the Doombot?
 
 
Surfer wasn't depowered. Doombot had more cosmic power and also had control of Surfer's board which weakens him. He captured this board easily because of Surfer's energy signature (Similar to the movie). The Doombot ended up loosing anyway because.... PIS. Doombot was the bad guy.
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#10  Edited By Chibio

I would like to bump this one! Any other opinions? I know that no one stomps in this fight, or at least I believe so.

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#11  Edited By HBKTimHBK

Doom wins.

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Silver Surfer obliterate poor victor.

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#16  Edited By kgb725

@elderskaar: Doom owns him all the time he could just depower him once again

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@kgb725: if Surfer would even give him the time, by now Silver Surfer should know Doom's powers and just wipe him off before Doom sees him

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Surfer is Doom :)

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Doom, he has done it before.

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@elderskaar: He survived being hit by the IG without his shieldson being up

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@kgb725: yeah sure thor can harm him

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With prep Doom wins.

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Surfer beats the crap out of Victor with his surfboard.

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@elderskaar: I believe it's happened in modern comics as well, but realistically Surfer shouldn't have too much trouble with Thor.

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@mysticmedivh: yeah, the power showings highly goes to Silver Surfer and Thor's lightning wouldn't do anything to Surfer considering he can do this without any harm.

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@elderskaar: Thor could just absorb all that energy with Mjolnir

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Doctor Doom wins.

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It seems as though people are saying Doom wins because of a feat from the sixties. Anyways Doom isn't nearly as powerful, but I can still see him winning. I think the (overrated) prep time might be inconsequential, but Doom is still a super genius capable of thinking and planning on the spot. Not to mention his magic. He is one of the best sorcerers on the planet.

Alternatively I do wonder how intelligent Silver Surfer is. He was a scientist from a planet seemingly millennia ahead of earth in scientific knowledge. Yet in older comics Norrin was shown to be as gullible as a kindergartener, and in modern showings he still quite naive.

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Giving Doom any amount of prep against Surfer, a being he's beaten many times is folly, he just absorbs his power cosmic like before.

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silver surfer

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@Jedixman: I know yo're a busy mod and all but can you take some time to educate some peeps here?

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#36 JediXMan  Moderator
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@Jedixman: I know yo're a busy mod and all but can you take some time to educate some peeps here?

About what? I'm out of the loop with both characters. I haven't read a Marvel comic since 2010.

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