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Depowered Tyrant Vs Superboy Prime
Superboy Prime. They retconned him tomake him a pansy now. He used to be immune to EVERYTHING and slapped around supes and the ENTIRED GLC and Black Adam.. then they made him a loser... still powerful but now he actually could be defeated, back then he defeated himself.
" Superboy Prime. They retconned him tomake him a pansy now. He used to be immune to EVERYTHING and slapped around supes and the ENTIRED GLC and Black Adam.. then they made him a loser... still powerful but now he actually could be defeated, back then he defeated himself. "When was he retconned?
" @WhiteLantern#1 said:" Superboy Prime. They retconned him tomake him a pansy now. He used to be immune to EVERYTHING and slapped around supes and the ENTIRED GLC and Black Adam.. then they made him a loser... still powerful but now he actually could be defeated, back then he defeated himself. "When was he retconned? "
When first written Superboy prime had NO weaknesses besides his own fear. He destroyed a 300 mile long wall of GL Energy. The guardians referred to him as a bigger threat than Hal when he was Parallax. Red solar energy didn't work on him at all. To be really fair NO energy worked on him. He was majorly depowered to having weaknesses of Kryptonite and Red Solar Energy and he can actually be slapped around now. It's completely 2 different characters.
Tyrant b*tch slaps emo b*tch prime
@Mr.Hulk_Smashin'! said:
" if he's de-powered, he has no power. "
if he's de-powered he can knock Thanos around in a fight or kill multiple heralds at once
if he's powered he's an equal to Galactus himself
emo b*tch dies, one of the few characters in the comic industry that is more lame than the Sentry
That's funny, since he took down Silver Surfer, BRB, Jack Of Hearts, Gladiator Kallark, Morg and Terrax at the same time while depowered."if he's de-powered, he has no power."
Tyrant nearly killed Galactus
And Galan had just ate a planet before this fight making Tyrant even weaker than when he fought Thanos and the team of Heralds.
And according to Galactus the planet he ate "This planet's biospheric energies not only replenish what was lost to me...but in fact has made me stronger than I've felt in ages!"
Honestly Prime's physical feats are more impressive
Really? Tyrant physically had the upper hand against an amped Thanos, Made Well Nourished Galactus Bleed etc.
@goldchamp101: A well nourished galactus has taken physical damage from stuff like being blasted out of his ship and across a planet into a Rock (Granted it was by Thanos, but the blast wasn't close to Planetary, yet it knocked his helmet off and singed his hair off). Thor has also flown through his head iirc. Galactus isn't completely invulnerable per say, but his semi-astral nature just means he reconstitutes himself pretty easily if he is nourished. Also Thanos wasn't amped by the orbs, he used it as a meele weapon. but merely wanted to study them as well as challenge himself by obtaining them in the first place. Its still a very impressive feat, but I have no doubt that SBP would overpower Thanos in a physical fight as well.
A well nourished galactus has taken physical damage from stuff like being blasted out of his ship and across a planet into a Rock (Granted it was by Thanos, but the blast wasn't close to Planetary, yet it knocked his helmet off and singed his hair off)
Thanos is far beyond Planetary when it comes to energy projection and admitted the blast did nothing but enrage Galactus.
Thor has also flown through his head iirc
PIS.
Also Thanos wasn't amped by the orbs, he used it as a weapon. but merely wanted to study them
Seems more like speculation.
but I have no doubt that SBP would overpower Thanos in a physical fight as well.
And do you think SBP would defeat a well nourished Galactus like Tyrant did?
@goldchamp101: Well of course, but the Blast wasn't planetary, nor was it meant to be, as he planned to destroy the planet Galactus was on by slamming it into another one with a Warhead to further increase the damage done to Hunger (Who was the main antagonist). The blast wasn't a full power one. I am not saying that Thanos would have done better if he had used all his power, just that he didn't.
PIS.
Not really, it didn't really impede him. Its not like Thor has any hope of beating Galactus at all, especially when his father went into the Odinsleep in what was at best, a Stalemate fighting him, or an Older King Thor with the Odin Force (albeit a weakened version) lost to a hungry old Galactus who wanted to feed on earth.
Seems more like speculation.
Tyrant actually had thousands of Orbs on his ship, and the one Thanos had was one of the smaller ones. Given this, I doubt that one single orb made any difference to Tyrants or Thanos' performance. especially since it was consistent with his power level (He wasn't steamrolled like Silver Surfer, Gladiator Beta Ray Bill etc) but still got overpowered eventually.
And do you think SBP would defeat a well nourished Galactus like Tyrant did?
Well no, but there is context involved. Tyrant was able to absorb the bio-energy fired from Galactus and utilize it to make himself stronger and Galactus weaker. He had a very specific counter to Galactus that SBP wouldn't enjoy.
but the Blast wasn't planetary, nor was it meant to be
Where is confirmed proof that the blast wasn't planetary?
epecially when his father went into the Odinsleep
No he didn't. He just transferred his soul to the destroyer. Thor was mistaken.
doubt that one single orb made any difference to Tyrants or Thanos' performance.
So Speculation. Got it.
Well no,
Good.
1. The planet wasn't destroyed, and Thanos destroyed it later with a warhead and by smashing it into another planet (sigh)
2. Fine, Doesn't change my point. If Odin can barely fight Galactus evenly, Thor obviously stands no change. Thor being able to Cosmetically damage Galan isn't PIS if it ultimately causes him no issues
3. Call basic common sense speculation if it makes you feel better :P
4. Again, if you want to ignore obvious context in order to make snappy retorts which sound good in your head, go ahead :P
1. The planet wasn't destroyed, and Thanos destroyed it later with a warhead and by smashing it into another planet (sigh)
2. Fine, Doesn't change my point. If Odin can barely fight Galactus evenly, Thor obviously stands no change. Thor being able to Cosmetically damage Galan isn't PIS if it ultimately causes him no issues
3. Call basic common sense speculation if it makes you feel better :P
4. Again, if you want to ignore obvious context in order to make snappy retorts which sound good in your head, go ahead :P
And here I thought you can only debate Spider-Man :P
@reaverlation: Haha.... Honestly, I'll be the first one to say I don't like SBP, but his feats are ridiculous :P
The planet wasn't destroyed
So because when Thanos blasted Galan it didn't destroy the Planet it's not Planetary?
That's not sound reasoning. PR MM blasted Beyond with a blast capable of destroying billions of dimensions but it didn't destroy the planet.
Thor being able to Cosmetically damage Galan isn't PIS if it ultimately causes him no issues
Fair point.
Call basic common sense speculation if it makes you feel better :P
It's not really "common sense" If you want to say it wasn't a major amp that's agreeable but he was amped.
Again, if you want to ignore obvious context in order to make snappy retorts which sound good in your head, go ahead :P
I know the context. At least we agreed on something.
Well first off, if I sounded rude, apologies, long day working, too much time on the internet and all that Jazz...
That's not sound reasoning. PR MM blasted Beyond with a blast capable of destroying billions of dimensions but it didn't destroy the planet.
PR MM was for all intents and purposes (and by Marvel definition) Omnipotent but he wasn't Omniscient (hence his naivety at times). He could have been hit with that force, but he might not have been and he might not have known the power he was hit with. I always favor narrative confirmation over simple character statements. Though PR MM could have been boasting (although he certainly had the power to tank that) given his feats. I'll give another example, Thor was crushed by a man-made device (I forgot what it was) and he said it was akin to a Neutron Star. Now Thor could probably survive such pressure (as he's been chilling in the Center of Star), but Tom Breevort openly came out and said that Thor wasn't under such pressure because if he was, the ground would have been rendered. So character statements are not always accurate, especially if they are not super-geniuses.
It's not really "common sense" If you want to say it wasn't a major amp that's agreeable but he was amped.
I can agree with that. He used it as a weapon, and grabbed for it in his fight. But I din't think it was significant.
I know the context. At least we agreed on something.
Fair enough. Sorry if I came across as rude.
Well first off, if I sounded rude, apologies, long day working, too much time on the internet and all that Jazz...
No worries. It happens sometimes.
PR MM was for all intents and purposes (and by Marvel definition) Omnipotent but he wasn't Omniscient (hence his naivety at times). He could have been hit with that force, but he might not have been and he might not have known the power he was hit with. I always favor narrative confirmation over simple character statements. Though PR MM could have been boasting (although he certainly had the power to tank that) given his feats
I think your confusing PR MM with PR Beyonder.
character statements are not always accurate, especially if they are not super-geniuses.
Fair point.
I can agree with that. He used it as a weapon, and grabbed for it in his fight. But I din't think it was significant.
Exactly.
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